Are cows happy or sad? PETA is trying to answer that question in court

glenn1

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"The truth is that there's misery in every glass of milk"


We have been led to believe that great cheese comes from happy cows, that happy cows come from California and that bulls talk, mostly about attractive cows, who seem to flourish in the state's clean air, good food and sunshine. Now they say this is deceptive advertising?

The ads in question, for the California Milk Advisory Board, depict cows blessed by the sun, enjoying dreamy California pastures -- but that representation can't possibly be true, alleges People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. PETA says dairy cows endure lives of pain, disease, suffering and work.

PETA said that it plans to file a complaint today with the Federal Trade Commission in Washington, D.C. The group seeks an investigation of the "Happy Cows" ad campaign that it believes misleads consumers into thinking that dairy cows live easy lives. The TV spots, which air only in California, are unlawfully deceptive, the complaint says.

"The truth is that there's misery in every glass of milk," said Matthew Penzer, a lawyer for PETA, the animal rights advocacy group based in Norfolk, Va., which has long assailed dairy industry practices.

The ads, created by Deutsch Inc. Advertising in Los Angeles, show cows quite comfortable in their surroundings when, PETA says, the reality of a dairy operation is that cows stand in their fecal waste and, after they are no longer useful, they're slaughtered.

Even PETA allows the spots are clever. "They have the right to create ads that are effective, but they are lying to people," said Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman. "It's like tobacco companies saying smoking will allow you to live to a ripe old age."



 

Beau

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Peta can go suck on a dead dogs nose for all I care. I think that the world would be a much happier place if we could go have some electronic device hooked on to appendages that hange from our mid-sections that suck on us 'till white stuff comes out on a daily basis. Of course they're happy.
 

308nato

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We don't have dairy cows, black angus beef critters graze our domain. The premise is the same I think. Although, PETA may argue some sort of socio-economic difference between the breeds.

My cows are happy cows. One look in the old girls eyes would tell you that. The bull is very happy as he has the job we male mammals all dream of. They spend their days contently eating and pooping and swimming in the creek <pronounced crick>. There is nothing more playful than a new calf. They love to play tag. The old ones love to have their noses scratched.

They are oh so tasty as well.:D
 

notfred

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Tell them to get on highway 1 in Monterey, and drive south towards Big Sur. A couple miles past all the million dollar houses in Carmel, there will be some grassy feilds up above the cliffs that drop into the pacific ocean. It looks a lot like the pictures you see of the "lone cypress" in monterey, and the Pebble Beach Golf course. Anyway, ask them what kind of animals those are in the pastures....
 

Kadarin

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When I was younger, I used to think PETA was a good cause; I mean, who wouldn't be against treating animals ethically? However, I have grown to realize that PETA the organization is largely composed of nutjobs who really need to get a life.
 

docmanhattan

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Everytime PETA opens it's mouth, it only seems to discredit itself a little more...
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Beau

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<< Everytime PETA opens it's mouth, it only seems to discredit itself a little more...
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Agreed. I'm still pissed about that whole Britney Spears thing.
 

Stiler

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I'd rather join ALF then PETA , at least ALF gets something done. (Animal liberation front) and yes i am an enviromentalist.
 

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<< They spend their days contently eating and pooping and swimming in the creek <PRONOUNCED crick>. >>



Patrick F. McManus?? LOL
 

Zebo

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Actually PETA is a very good organization. They do everything from infiltrating dog/cock fighting rings which lead to hundreds of arrests to watching we don't eat adrenaline filled meat..

You need to understand cattle is not raised on the range anymore and it make the cattle less healthy and prone to desease.

-They eat corn instead of grass which is bad for them and bad for us.
-they are raised (from 700 lbs-1200lbs) in cattle barns of 100,000 members with little room to manuver and eat, sleep, walk in thier own sh1t.
-Before butchering they are ran though (almost drowned) in a concentrated acid/viricide solution which blinds them.
 

sheselectric

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well, people don't need to be consuming so many dairy products anyway. because of the milk/dairy lobbies, people are brainwashed to believe they won't get enough calcium if they don't drink milk or eat cheese. this is NOT true. do you realize we're the only mammals who consume other mammals' milk? we're also the only mammals who drink milk as adults. there's something unnatural about all that.
 

poopaskoopa

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Don't mean to be a jackass to my good PETA people, but now I'm really thinking about having a ribeye tonight. Haven't eaten in the last 23 hours... Oh well, at least I'll be happy. :D
 

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<< -they are raised (from 700 lbs-1200lbs) in cattle barns of 100,000 members with little room to manuver and eat, sleep, walk in thier own sh1t.
-Before butchering they are ran though (almost drowned) in a concentrated acid/viricide solution which blinds themQ]-They eat corn instead of grass which is bad for them and bad for us.
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HA HA what a bunch of crap.
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rahvin

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Woo stuff is getting deep in here. I will answer one of the stupid remarks.

Cows are fed sillage for a few days before slaughter, sillage is fermented corn and has a alcohol percentage near 4%. The cows are fed all they want until they are slaughtered. Do to the cost of corn this time is fairly short but it's purpose is to tenderize and soften the meat. So in essense the cow gets to spend the last couple weeks of it's life stone drunk 24 hours a day. Now if I was gonna die in 2 weeks I wouldn't mind spending a good chunk of that time drunk, in fact I would consider that pretty humane.
 

Zebo

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According to frontline

<< Beyond that, then the animal is frequently sold to someone else and delivered to a feedlot where, for the last 120 to 180 days of its life, it has a very high-energy ration based on corn. And it becomes a much more desirable eating animal at that point. You have marbling that makes it more juicy and more flavorful and very much in keeping with the [preferences] of human beings as we exist here in America, at least. >>



Industail meat various view points
 

Zebo

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More horror stories:
The site of modern meat production is akin to a walled medieval city, where waste is tossed out the window, sewage runs down the street, and feed and drinking water are routinely contaminated by fecal material. Each day, a feedlot steer deposits 50 pounds of manure, as the animals crowd atop dark mountains composed of their own feces. "Animals are living in medieval conditions and we're living in the twenty-first century," says Robert Tauxe, chief of the CDC's foodborne and diarrheal diseases branch. "Consumers have to be aware that even though they bought their food from a lovely modern deli bar or salad bar, it started out in the sixteen hundreds."
From frontline special
 

poopaskoopa

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Caught ribeyes and shrimp on sale($4.99/lb $3.99/lb respectively). I have this thread to thank for. Thanks, PETA :D.
 

FoBoT

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cows are dumb as stones
anybody that has lived on a farm with cows/chased cows when they broke through a fence knows that turnips have more brains/feelings than cows do
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ya'll go back to eatin your steak and Big Mac's, nothing to see here, move along folks :p