Are Barr/Trump slowly unraveling the Michael Flynn prosecution?

[UNCjigga]

From Maddow: “22 days ago, DOJ prosecutors in the Mike Flynn case were asking for a sentence of imprisonment. Now they say they're not.

What happened in the last 22 days?”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1222662676649861120

Well, here’s what happened:

Trump intends to nominate Jessie Liu, U.S. attorney for D.C., to top Treasury Dept. sanctions post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/trump-intends-to-name-jessie-k-liu-us-attorney-for-district-to-top-treasury-dept-sanctions-post/2019/12/10/7c0b5664-1ba7-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html

And then:

Attorney General William P. Barr names Timothy Shea, one of his counselors, as the District’s interim U.S. Attorney

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/attorney-general-william-p-barr-names-timothy-shea-one-of-his-counselors-as-the-districts-interim-us-attorney/2020/01/30/446fe6a6-4303-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html

That’s what changed.

 

[woolfe9998]

Fortunately the judge gets to decide the sentence regardless of the prosecutor's recommendation.

 

[Jhhnn]

Fortunately the judge gets to decide the sentence regardless of the prosecutor's recommendation.

Emmett G Sullivan has not been amused by the antics of Flynn & his attorneys. Not one little bit.

 

[UNCjigga]

Maria Bartiromo is saying “complete exoneration” for Flynn is coming this week. Pardon, or Barr/DOJ will suspend/commute sentence?

Bartiromo is on good terms with Trump and Kayleigh, so watch this space.

 

[eelw]

Mueller already got all the information he needs. So big deal if Flynn gets no jail time. Just waiting for next AG to use all evidence collected to prosecute

 

[soundforbjt]

Trump will pardon Flynn and his base will love him for it. My prediction.

 

[HomerJS]

Maria Bartiromo is saying “complete exoneration” for Flynn is coming this week. Pardon, or Barr/DOJ will suspend/commute sentence?

Bartiromo is on good terms with Trump and Kayleigh, so watch this space.

A pardon is NOT exoneration, it is forgiven guilt.

 

[Greenman]

Trump will pardon Flynn and his base will love him for it. My prediction.

It's starting to look like Flynn might walk and a couple folks from the FBI might be looking for work.
Fox link is the first one that came up.

Speculation mounts over Flynn case as new DOJ documents turned over

New documents recently turned over to Michael Flynn's legal team have led to speculation that the former national security adviser could catch a break in his long-stalled case due to purportedly exculpatory evidence that previously had not been disclosed.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Jhhnn]

It's starting to look like Flynn might walk and a couple folks from the FBI might be looking for work.
Fox link is the first one that came up.

Speculation mounts over Flynn case as new DOJ documents turned over

New documents recently turned over to Michael Flynn's legal team have led to speculation that the former national security adviser could catch a break in his long-stalled case due to purportedly exculpatory evidence that previously had not been disclosed.

www.foxnews.com

Did Flynn lie to the FBI? Demonstrably & admittedly. The rest is just a fancy conspiracy theory fandango.

 

[fskimospy]

It's starting to look like Flynn might walk and a couple folks from the FBI might be looking for work.
Fox link is the first one that came up.

Speculation mounts over Flynn case as new DOJ documents turned over

New documents recently turned over to Michael Flynn's legal team have led to speculation that the former national security adviser could catch a break in his long-stalled case due to purportedly exculpatory evidence that previously had not been disclosed.

www.foxnews.com

Flynn will be pardoned most likely, yes. There is zero question as to whether he committed a crime though and I'm sure you agree. Can you confirm?

 

[HomerJS]

This is the guy he will pardon?

https://twitter.com/x/status/937007006526959618

 

[soundforbjt]

This is the guy he will pardon?

https://twitter.com/x/status/937007006526959618

There's always a tweet from the mentally challenged Drumpf.

 

[ShookKnight]

What has also changed was the realization that Trump may lose in Nov. So, he will kick off a slew of pardons.

Just a heads up Donny; you can't pardon Putin, Jong-un, Hitler, etc.

More importantly, this jackass will pardon the SAME guy he fired because he lied.

 

[Fenixgoon]

What has also changed was the realization that Trump may lose in Nov. So, he will kick off a slew of pardons.

Just a heads up Donny; you can't pardon Putin, Jong-un, Hitler, etc.

More importantly, this jackass will pardon the SAME guy he fired because he lied.

hell trump considered bringing him back on!

Trump Would ‘Consider’ Rehiring Michael Flynn Because He'll Likely Be ‘Exonerated’

The former national security adviser pleaded guilty to lying to FBI investigators looking into his conversations with Russia’s ambassador.

www.huffpost.com

 

[compuwiz1]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is the guy he will pardon?

https://twitter.com/x/status/937007006526959618

That was very early on, before Trump found his groove. Before he fired Comey & set out to discredit the FBI in general. They'll really be a PITA if he fails re-election so he has to diminish them if he can. He'll not longer be identified as the President but rather as the Perpetrator & the Defendant. It's inevitable.

Flynn is just a foil in that effort.

 

[Jhhnn]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

They invited him to lie, and he did, quite knowingly. That's a crime.

 

[soundforbjt]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

Especially if they're guilty to start with...

 

[compuwiz1]

They invited him to lie, and he did, quite knowingly. That's a crime.

You're wrong. They manipulated him to lie and had planned on how they were going to twist him into it before hand. It was a conspiracy from the get go. They also threatened to lock up his son, to get the answer that got him in trouble. Most father's would take the blow for their kid. I fully expect the whole case dismissed, reversed. Trump won't even need to pardon him. His attorney, in light of the evidence will convince the judge of the miscarriage of justice. And, once all that happens, I hope Flynn sues the shit out of them.

 

[fskimospy]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

You do not appear to understand how the law or federal law enforcement works.

It is very true that the FBI routinely asks people questions it already knows the answer to so if they lie the FBI now has a crime to convict them on and use as leverage. This is entirely legal and happens every day. It is not even remotely entrapment as the FBI did not induce Flynn to lie and commit that crime. Flynn lied to them of his own volition.

If your argument is that we should change the law so lying to the FBI like that is no longer a crime that’s fine, but you should acknowledge that what he did was a crime and he knowingly committed it. That’s what Flynn said himself, after all.

 

[fskimospy]

You're wrong. They manipulated him to lie and had planned on how they were going to twist him into it before hand. It was a conspiracy from the get go. They also threatened to lock up his son, to get the answer that got him in trouble. Most father's would take the blow for their kid.

Please be as specific as possible as to how they manipulated Flynn so that he intentionally made a false statement to a government official.

 

[interchange]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

I don't think you know what a perjury trap is. A perjury trap as legal defense requires that the questions asked are not material to what is being investigated. While they may have figured he would lie about something and wanted to put him into that position, it is only a problem if they were trying to get him to lie about something unrelated to their investigation. Lying about something material to an investigation is always illegal. He didn't have to lie despite the pressure.

Now... Were FBI agents biased in their treatment of Flynn? I don't know. They definitely deemed him a threat to the country and desired to bring him down. But that isn't a legal problem so long as they follow the law. Being biased against someone, even an innocent someone, is not a defense unless that bias results in a breach of law. Bias is material to a defense of prosecutorial misconduct, but it is not misconduct itself.

Flynn either lied to the FBI and plead guilty or lied in his plea. Unless there is actual misconduct and not bias or simply legal application of pressure, one or the other of what Flynn did is a criminal act.

Separately, I agree with the IG findings that there were some problems at the FBI which deserve attention in order to serve the public best but did not constitute misconduct in this investigation.

 

[dank69]

There is every reason to quash the whole case against Flynn. The internal memos, which were recently unsealed, at the request of Flynn's attorney, demonstrate that the FBI agents conspired to set him up. They were talking about how to get him, either convicted, or fired. Perjury traps can be set on anyone, it's not that difficult to fuck someone over when they want to.

Oh you mean standard MO for every FBI investigation ever will get these FBI guys fired? Is that because the law does not apply to Republicans? Are we to believe you also agree that since the people investigating and interrogating Bill Clinton conspired to set him up by questioning him about things they already knew the answer to, you believe he should not have been impeached?

 

[interchange]

You're wrong. They manipulated him to lie and had planned on how they were going to twist him into it before hand.

This is routine interrogation of a suspect. All a suspect has to do to avoid consequence of this situation is to tell the truth. If they have not committed a crime, then they face no consequence for telling the truth.

They also threatened to lock up his son, to get the answer that got him in trouble. Most father's would take the blow for their kid.

People have constitutional protections against false imprisonment, illegal search and seizure, etc. Are you alleging that the FBI was going to break the law to prosecute Flynn's son? Or that Flynn lied to the FBI in taking a plea to save his son from legal jeopardy that his son earned through misconduct?

 

[IronWing]

You're wrong. They manipulated him to lie and had planned on how they were going to twist him into it before hand. It was a conspiracy from the get go. They also threatened to lock up his son, to get the answer that got him in trouble. Most father's would take the blow for their kid. I fully expect the whole case dismissed, reversed. Trump won't even need to pardon him. His attorney, in light of the evidence will convince the judge of the miscarriage of justice. And, once all that happens, I hope Flynn sues the shit out of them.

You have the oddest fantasies.