Are all future Nikon lenses going to be AF-S?

[OREOSpeedwagon]

I talked to a guy in a local camera shop who told me all future Nikon lenses are going to be AF-S, so unless I have a ton of old Nikon lenses there's no reason not to pick up the D40 as a starter DSLR. He also said that Pentax wasn't an established company and to avoid the K100D Super, so I decided I couldn't really trust the accuracy of what he was telling me Are all (or most) of Nikon's future lenses going to be AF-S?

 

[ElFenix]

pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

Yeah, I couldn't give him much credibility when he said that about Pentax I'm just getting into photography and I've even heard of them in the past.

I was pretty much set on the K100D Super when B&H Photo Video had it at $399 after rebate but they just went out of stock. I can get a refurb D40 for close to the same price now that I don't have to buy a set of rechargeable AAs and charger so I'm kind of leaning towards it now.

 

[kalster]

get a k10d for 535 AR (body only) at amazon,

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: kalster
get a k10d for 535 AR (body only) at amazon,

I would if I could afford it, but I can really only go $500 or less right now

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

Yeah, I couldn't give him much credibility when he said that about Pentax I'm just getting into photography and I've even heard of them in the past.

I was pretty much set on the K100D Super when B&H Photo Video had it at $399 after rebate but they just went out of stock. I can get a refurb D40 for close to the same price now that I don't have to buy a set of rechargeable AAs and charger so I'm kind of leaning towards it now.

try abes of maine?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

Yeah, I couldn't give him much credibility when he said that about Pentax I'm just getting into photography and I've even heard of them in the past.

I was pretty much set on the K100D Super when B&H Photo Video had it at $399 after rebate but they just went out of stock. I can get a refurb D40 for close to the same price now that I don't have to buy a set of rechargeable AAs and charger so I'm kind of leaning towards it now.

try abes of maine?

Abes of Maine is one of the biggest rip-off camera shops. There's something wrong with Resellerratings.com right now, but their rating isn't that great.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Abe_s_of_Maine

I had them charge me for an order I cancelled - 3 days later. I cancelled 10 minutes after I placed it and they tried everything they could to up-sale me. They then called back and said "we've got it packaged up and ready to ship, are you sure you don't want it?".

I told them NO, do not ship, I told you hours ago not to and to cancel. What did they do? Not ship, but charged me 3 days later. I got my money back, but they're shady as hell. Leason learned.

http://trenton.e-asp.net/NIS4/...ComID=0221000027002918

On September 25, 2007, this company's membership in the BBB was revoked by the BBB's Board of Directors due to failure to eliminate the underlying cause of complaints on file with the BBB.

Based on BBB files, this business has an unsatisfactory rating with the BBB due to a pattern of complaints. Although the business resolves the complaints, it has failed to correct the underlying reason for the complaints. The company does not participate in the BBBOnLine Reliabiltiy Program.

Complaints filed with the BBB indicate that Abe's Camera and Electronics employs abusive bait and switch tactics in order to sell extra merchandise or higher priced merchandise to customers and misrepresents items as in stock when they are not in stock. Consumers claim that their orders are cancelled without notice and they do not receive refunds in a timely manner, if at all. Consumers also allege unprofessional conduct by sales staff.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

That's what I found about Abe's as well. I was initially going to buy the K100D Super from them until I checked out their reviews, and I decided I'd rather not deal with all that. B&H seems to be a pretty well liked and respectable company around here and on other forums, I think I'd rather buy from them.

 

[troytime]

adorama is good too, although i did have one bad customer service issue (one bad, 5 good)

on a side note, i'm pretty sure all new lenses will be af-s and af-s dx
they're making their full frame cameras compatible with the dx lenses, and with the large amounts of d40s sold, it'd be silly of them to put out a new lens that's incompatible

on another side note, i read some rumors that the 50mm will be released af-s next year

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: troytime
adorama is good too, although i did have one bad customer service issue (one bad, 5 good)

on a side note, i'm pretty sure all new lenses will be af-s and af-s dx
they're making their full frame cameras compatible with the dx lenses, and with the large amounts of d40s sold, it'd be silly of them to put out a new lens that's incompatible

on another side note, i read some rumors that the 50mm will be released af-s next year

Awesome, thanks for the info. The 50mm was one reason the D40 has still been been on my mind. The quality is amazing for the price!

 

[troytime]

I know what you mean, i upgraded to the d80 just so i could use the 50mm.
I rarely use that 50mm though

Maybe a used d50 or d70 could be found within your budget?

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagonB&H seems to be a pretty well liked and respectable company around here and on other forums, I think I'd rather buy from them.

B&H is top notch in this department. Plus, once you order from them, you get their catalog - about 1.5 inches thick - awesome. (It lives in the bathroom as part of the permanent library!)

BTW - this is a pretty good review of the AF-S Nikon stable, pros and cons:

AF-S

 

[morkman100]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: kalster
get a k10d for 535 AR (body only) at amazon,

I would if I could afford it, but I can really only go $500 or less right now

You can get the D40 kit (with 18-55mm lens) for $479 right now from Amazon (free shipping and no sales tax).

 

[dug777]

I look at the 50mm F1.8 (for my D80), but then I look at my shooting with the 18-135mm Nikkor, and I basically use the entire range on every shoot, so I don't know that I'd enjoy being limited to 50mm the whole time

 

[soydios]

I use the 50mm f/1.8D a fair amount on my D50. That 18-135mm has an aperture range from f/3.5-5.6, and thus fares considerably worse under low light, where I do a lot of my shooting. The 50mm focal length is perfect for stage photography on DX, as it captures about half of a stage if you are reasonably close.

For example, I have some shots of airborne dancers taken at ISO1600, f/2, 1/125sec, that would be at 1/30sec or slower with an f/3.5-5.6 lens.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: soydios
I use the 50mm f/1.8D a fair amount on my D50. That 18-135mm has an aperture range from f/3.5-5.6, and thus fares considerably worse under low light, where I do a lot of my shooting. The 50mm focal length is perfect for stage photography on DX, as it captures about half of a stage if you are reasonably close.

For example, I have some shots of airborne dancers taken at ISO1600, f/2, 1/125sec, that would be at 1/30sec or slower with an f/3.5-5.6 lens.

Oh yeah, I know the 18-135mm isn't anything special, but I'm a whore for the range

I can see if you know you're in a scenario where you'll be using a certain focal length all the time (a perfect example being the one you mention, a stage), primes kick ass :thumbsup:

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: morkman100

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: kalster
get a k10d for 535 AR (body only) at amazon,

I would if I could afford it, but I can really only go $500 or less right now

You can get the D40 kit (with 18-55mm lens) for $479 right now from Amazon (free shipping and no sales tax).

B&H has D40 refurbs for $429, so I decided to go with that. Money is a bit of an issue and saving $50 is a pretty big deal to me (poor college student =/) So to total it up, I got the D40, 2GB Sandisk UltraII card, and an extra Nikon battery for $512 shipped

 

[soydios]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: soydios
I use the 50mm f/1.8D a fair amount on my D50. That 18-135mm has an aperture range from f/3.5-5.6, and thus fares considerably worse under low light, where I do a lot of my shooting. The 50mm focal length is perfect for stage photography on DX, as it captures about half of a stage if you are reasonably close.

For example, I have some shots of airborne dancers taken at ISO1600, f/2, 1/125sec, that would be at 1/30sec or slower with an f/3.5-5.6 lens.

Oh yeah, I know the 18-135mm isn't anything special, but I'm a whore for the range

I can see if you know you're in a scenario where you'll be using a certain focal length all the time (a perfect example being the one you mention, a stage), primes kick ass :thumbsup:

I know what you mean about loving superzooms: I have the 18-200mm. =P

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

It's true that the future of Pentax is very gloomy. When Hoya was trying to acquire Pentax, they made it clear that Pentax discontinue consumer camera market. Pentax resisted and thus came the mess. Eventually, Hoya agreed Pentax to continue consumer camera market only to kill it later.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

It's true that the future of Pentax is very gloomy. When Hoya was trying to acquire Pentax, they made it clear that Pentax discontinue consumer camera market. Pentax resisted and thus came the mess. Eventually, Hoya agreed Pentax to continue consumer camera market only to kill it later.

where did you read that? only thing i read that hoya wanted to kill was digital 645.

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: ElFenix
pentax isn't established? asahi optical was founded only two years after nippon kogaku.

pentax is now a part of a larger company, hoya, which itself is a part of a larger company. there is uncertainty as to their upcoming products, however, i can't imagine hoya getting out of the SLR business, which is the most profitable part of consumer photography.


and yeah, i doubt nikon will be releasing any new screw drive lenses.

It's true that the future of Pentax is very gloomy. When Hoya was trying to acquire Pentax, they made it clear that Pentax discontinue consumer camera market. Pentax resisted and thus came the mess. Eventually, Hoya agreed Pentax to continue consumer camera market only to kill it later.

wrong, they want to slow down the compact lines (since they obviously aren't competing well w/ Canon, Fuji, etc) and put the most concentration on DSLR's since Pentax is making quite a dent in the market right now. The K100D frequently makes top 5 selling lists and the K10D is getting more and more popular.

Can't beat pentax primes either

 

[Deadtrees]

Hoya was interested in Pentax's medical/health care line.
Consumer imaging market became too competive and that Hoya didn't want Pentax to continue in that market only to meet the fate of Minolta.
Back then, rumor had it that Samsung was going to step in and acuquire Pentax imaging line but that never happened. Well, that rumor is still going around
especially after Samsung acuquired a CIS company from Israel.

 

[ubishi]

Change your'e camera shop, the guy doesn't know what he is talking about. You should be able to get hold of a d70 for the price you want to pay.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: ubishi
Change your'e camera shop, the guy doesn't know what he is talking about. You should be able to get hold of a d70 for the price you want to pay.

Yeah, I'm not going to be a regular customer at the camera shop. The guy was one of those arrogant salesmen who is impossible to talk to unless you agree 100% with what he's saying. He and the owner both tried to tell me the K100D Super wasn't even released yet.

But, I still decided to go with the D40, mostly because of of the performance you get for the price. $512 shipped for camera, SD card, and spare battery isn't too bad IMO