Capt Caveman
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???? If you're using 100% pure alcohol maybe, but you're not. Alcohol is effective, cheap and does the job. It doesn't mean there aren't better products.
I know folks that prefer using Acetone instead of Alcohol. Too each their own, no need to thread crap, especially when you're wrong about no residue being left.
I tried a product, I'm really pleased with what it did compared to a more standard product. This being a computer forum and the product being a computer-related (generally) product, I came here to share my experiences and recommend other people try the same thing. That'd be great if I got some sort of freebies from AS for this, but doubt it's gonna happen =)
As far as alcohol leaving residue, I guess it's not the alcohol itself that does, it's just that using alcohol doesn't remove stuff as completely as AC does. AC gets into the little nooks and crannies and actually emulsifies the paste where alcohol doesn't seem to do that. Using AC after alcohol on a seemingly clean HS or core will show a noticeable amount of TIF remained even after the alcohol.
Once again, please don't talk if you haven't tried the product, it's all speculation on your part otherwise and you appear to try to make absolute statements as if you're some sort of authority.
PS - thanks for the bumps
As far as alcohol leaving residue, I guess it's not the alcohol itself that does, it's just that using alcohol doesn't remove stuff as completely as AC does. AC gets into the little nooks and crannies and actually emulsifies the paste where alcohol doesn't seem to do that. Using AC after alcohol on a seemingly clean HS or core will show a noticeable amount of TIF remained even after the alcohol.
Once again, please don't talk if you haven't tried the product, it's all speculation on your part otherwise and you appear to try to make absolute statements as if you're some sort of authority.
PS - thanks for the bumps
Goof-Off Ingredients
ArctiClean Ingredients
First it's "strikingly similar", then they ARE the same. NOT the same at all. Goof-Off uses mainly Xylene and ArctiClean uses a combo of orange rind extract and soybean extracts mixed with some other stuff.
Why try so hard to pretend to be an expert?
whats ironic is artic silver say dont use any citrus based cleaners yet articlean smells of citrus.
proper isopropyl alcohol is 91% alcohol and 9% purified water which is what i use.
alcohol evaporates easily at room temperature, and leaves no residue. purified water will not leave a residue but will take longer to evaporate.
would the cleaning eye lense trade use if it left a residue? lol
if you use rubbing alcohol which contains less alcohol or other ingredients then that can leave a residue. some rubbing alcohols may contain lanolin or other oils. these should be avoided. thats a lesson to those who buying cheap rubbing alcohol.
rubbing alcohol is actually ethyl alcohol 70% denatonium benzoate, methyl isobutyl ketone and water
i dont recommend acetone either as it has additives added.
not only that it great to clean tvs, lcd screens. even dell recommend it to clean there lcds 50/50 with water.
dont confuse the 2.
if that articlean cleans it faster then theres more ingredients in it to do so. at least with isopropyl alcohol you know whats in it.
@OCNewbie
now its your turn to hear my ad from goopman lol
this is better than artic silver 5
link
reports of upto 6c lower temps over as5
you dont have to clean it off and reapply it
review
proper isopropyl alcohol is 91% alcohol and 9% purified water which is what i use.
alcohol evaporates easily at room temperature, and leaves no residue. purified water will not leave a residue but will take longer to evaporate.
would the cleaning eye lense trade use if it left a residue? lol
if you use rubbing alcohol which contains less alcohol or other ingredients then that can leave a residue. some rubbing alcohols may contain lanolin or other oils. these should be avoided. thats a lesson to those who buying cheap rubbing alcohol.
rubbing alcohol is actually ethyl alcohol 70% denatonium benzoate, methyl isobutyl ketone and water
i dont recommend acetone either as it has additives added.
not only that it great to clean tvs, lcd screens. even dell recommend it to clean there lcds 50/50 with water.
dont confuse the 2.
if that articlean cleans it faster then theres more ingredients in it to do so. at least with isopropyl alcohol you know whats in it.
@OCNewbie
now its your turn to hear my ad from goopman lol
this is better than artic silver 5
link
reports of upto 6c lower temps over as5
you dont have to clean it off and reapply it
review
What do you mean by my logic? I said in my opinion it wasn't worth it
I also said I have used it and it works, very, very well ... try it out someday, for interests sake.
You don't exactly have a great comparison either, a $6 tube of this cleaning stuff that'll probably last about 5 years compared to premium gasoline, I doubt you'll get 5 years use of out your $6 investment there ...
Oh, and just for the record, I use rubbing alochol ...
.I have never had any problems with removing thermal paste or pads. I use standard paint thinner and no matter what kind of TIM that was used, it more or less comes off by itself when you dab it with some thinner. I recently used it on an old Celeron 700 CPU, where the TIM had gone stone hard after years of service. Came off in no time. Didn't have to rub, just made a few swipes.
I've not used ArctiClean, but it's definitely not better than the paint thinner. What I do not really know is if the thinner leaves any residues, though...
I've not used ArctiClean, but it's definitely not better than the paint thinner. What I do not really know is if the thinner leaves any residues, though...
OP, I tried the product and find it good also. It cleans also copper, when it is "dark". Alcohol is good but it has water.
They have 2 bottles, one is for paste removal and the other one is the "purifier" - which has the same function as the alcohol.
And don't mind for the "truth" owners.
They have 2 bottles, one is for paste removal and the other one is the "purifier" - which has the same function as the alcohol.
And don't mind for the "truth" owners.
Kind off topic, but this is kind of my field - I know automotive oils and its applications and believe me, carmakers and oil companies are not trying to fool you.
The oil itself never wears, what wear is the additives they add to protect your engine.
A carmaker puts together with the oil companies thousands of hours in testing and validation.
These "alternative" oils and additives do not go through this process. They can interfere with the normal stuff and create side effects.
Change the oil as instructed (not longer) using the recommended SAE class and your engine will have long and prosper life.....
Is this some sort of viral marketing gimmick? :thumbsdown:
What's next? Specialized ArctiClean q-tips? :laugh:
What's next? Specialized ArctiClean q-tips? :laugh:
I've used arctic clean and it works fine. If its not a value to you, don't use it. For the few times I need a cleaner it works great. A question though, where do most folks get isopropyl 90%?
My local Super Wal-Mart has 91% alcohol in the pharmacy section. Was like $2 for a 32 oz bottle I think, or a little over $1 for a 16 oz. It has a red label on it, the regular 70% has blue I think.
I might use Arctic Clean if I were constantly changing out HSFs/CPU's. However for "normal" use IPA works fine.
It might take one less wipe with AC but who cares!! I always do a 3 phase clean with IPA and by that time there is no residue. (even if there was residue it would be a microscopic coat of AS5!!)
It might take one less wipe with AC but who cares!! I always do a 3 phase clean with IPA and by that time there is no residue. (even if there was residue it would be a microscopic coat of AS5!!)
thescreensavers
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i can get 20x more ipa for the same price as articlean. so if you changing hsfs alot that be costly with articlean. plus if you changing it often its easy to remove anyway not baked on.
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