Arctic Silver and Amd/Intel warrantys?

[Fallengod]

First off, im just wondering if arctic silver3 or whatever the other name is, is worth using on stock speed intel cpus. Was reading some stuff about cooling, if its just a few degrees difference, thats probably not worth it. Ive never tried arctic silver3 before.

Second, does anyone know if applying it voids the warranty? I emailed intel, but who knows when I will get a response to that. I didnt see it under warranty info mentioned.

 

[Slammy1]

Voids warranty, thermal tape sucks. Catch-22.

 

[Fallengod]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Voids warranty, thermal tape sucks. Catch-22.

Slammy obviously has some issues...

Anyways, I just found on intel page, says thermal compound comes with intel procs. So I guess I dont see how it could void warranty. Nm I guess.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: modempower

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Voids warranty, thermal tape sucks. Catch-22.

Slammy obviously has some issues...

Anyways, I just found on intel page, says thermal compound comes with intel procs. So I guess I dont see how it could void warranty. Nm I guess.

their thermal compound is the thermal tape stuck at the bottom of their heatsinks

 

[Fallengod]

Ahh ok..

 

[Corporate Thug]

lets use some commen sense here people, how the fvck will AMD know that you used AS3 if you apply it properly and wipe it off if you need the RMA the chip?

 

[redhatlinux]

First off, PCTC does NOT suck. Check out the Chomerics website. It may not cool as low but it will last longer. AMD has done hours of testing showing how silicone based thermal compouds suffer from 'pump out'. Basically, the high temps and high clip pressure cuase silicone compounds to 'pump' away from the center of the core. PCTC being 'thixotropic doesn't suffer from these problems. AMD warranty is VOID for sure, Intel used to void also, but recent retail cpus are shipping with non-PCTC. Can they tell, you bet. PCTC is a b!tch to get off, they will know a clean CPU didn't use PCTC. Try E-Mailing AMD, they responded to me in less than 24 hours.

 

[LastRide]

I now use the new Arctic silver Ceramique paste.Its a little thicker than AS3 but its non conductive and works better.This is a partial review from overclockers website.

Temperatures - Not Overclocked
Idle Load
Arctic Silver 3 39.2 43.3
Céramique 38.4 42.9


Temperatures - Overclocked to 146Mhz FSB
Idle Load
Arctic Silver 3 44.3 48.7
Céramique 41.6 46.1



Conclusion
Well there it is, Céramique scored just a few degrees lower than the current two top compounds. A few degrees that's sure to make any enthusiast happy. And to top it off, since Céramique isn't a thermal grease, it shouldn't void AMDs warrenty like AS3 is reported to do. No comment from AMD on that so far, and it's been over a week since I emailed them. But then, does it really matter if it voids the warranty? I mean, 90% of the stuff we do around here voids the warranty anyway.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: LastRide
I now use the new Arctic silver Ceramique paste.Its a little thicker than AS3 but its non conductive and works better.This is a partial review from overclockers website.

Temperatures - Not Overclocked
Idle Load
Arctic Silver 3 39.2 43.3
Céramique 38.4 42.9


Temperatures - Overclocked to 146Mhz FSB
Idle Load
Arctic Silver 3 44.3 48.7
Céramique 41.6 46.1



Conclusion
Well there it is, Céramique scored just a few degrees lower than the current two top compounds. A few degrees that's sure to make any enthusiast happy. And to top it off, since Céramique isn't a thermal grease, it shouldn't void AMDs warrenty like AS3 is reported to do. No comment from AMD on that so far, and it's been over a week since I emailed them. But then, does it really matter if it voids the warranty? I mean, 90% of the stuff we do around here voids the warranty anyway.

I completely agree, especially since I just posted as much in the best compound thread below this one BTW, they don't use thermal tape on the retail sinks they use a thermal pad of what they call phase change thermal interface material. Which considering how many users apply arctic silver products wrong can actually be superior in cooling as it gives the proper amount and doesn't result in thermal buildup the way too much paste can

 

[Amorphus]

dude, nobody checks.

using thermal compound/grease whatever DOES NOT AFFECT WARRANTY, for all intents and purposes. especially if you RMA/return to the redistributor instead of manufacturer.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Amorphus
dude, nobody checks.

using thermal compound/grease whatever DOES NOT AFFECT WARRANTY, for all intents and purposes. especially if you RMA/return to the redistributor instead of manufacturer.

Actually both AMD and Intel require that you return the retail heatsink/fan that shipped with the CPU in order to get warranty service on the retail CPUs. Now, this would mean you either need to use the retail cooler for a few days so it's obvious from the missing T.I.M. that it was used with the CPU when you return it, or do it later with another CPU with the same core/IHS size in order to demonstrate to the manufacturer that it was indeed used for cooling the processor. You could lie and say that you cleaned the T.I.M off of the core/IHS before boxing and shipping if they ask why there is no residue. However, Both are deceitful and therefore I don't recommend doing so since sacraficing my integrity and honor over such a thing is not my style. You will probably have far better luck with warranty coverage being honored without adhering to a strict criteria from the reseller as mentioned above.

 

[WarCon]

Truth of the matter is this........the pads are fine for stock use. If you follow the thermal guidelines you won't have any problems (as far as case fans and air circulation, etc.). If you turn your processor up at all at any time beyond stock speeds, then you have officially voided either warranty. No they don't currently have any way to tell (that we know about), but that is really not the point. The point is, are you the kind of person that knowingly damages something and then tries to collect on the warranty? Yes paste voids AMD's warranty, and probably voids Intel's warranty as you are probably not using stock heatsink (as required) or took off their TIM (that black pad / metal / black pad affair) in order to use the paste.

Different thermal compound is just not needed for stock speeds. Don't waste your time.