Arctic Silver 5 vs. Ceramique

[VRXJudge]

I was wondering which paste was better.

 

[NokiaDude]

I have both AS5 and Ceramique. AS5 is waaaay to thick. It's really really hard to spread. On the other hand, Ceramique has a good consistency. It's easy to spread but it won't run.

 

[tonyou]

I personally prefer the Ceramique as well. Easy to apply and clean.

 

[imported_burningrave101]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I have both AS5 and Ceramique. AS5 is waaaay to thick. It's really really hard to spread. On the other hand, Ceramique has a good consistency. It's easy to spread but it won't run.

Well since your not suppost to spread it then it shouldn't matter if its thick or not. Your suppost to apply a small drop about the size of a BB to the center of the IHS on an Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 CPU.

 

[Marthisdil]

And putting a spot the size of a BB in the center of the IHS won't guarantee you get full coverage - which is why most folks choose to spread the paste across to make sure it's fully covered.

 

[h2sammo]

cream cheese

great heat transfer

 

[l Xes l]

i just use my booger... works great.. hard to clean up tho

 

[Hyperlite]

Its impossible to beat the heat transfer of AS5, so i just put up with the spreading problems. for example, when i put my NV5 on my 6800, i used AS5 on the core and ceramique on the memory, because the rumor had just surfaced that you could fry mem modules in a hurry if you leaked any as5.

 

[imported_burningrave101]

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
And putting a spot the size of a BB in the center of the IHS won't guarantee you get full coverage - which is why most folks choose to spread the paste across to make sure it's fully covered.

Your not suppost to get full coverage. If you will read the simple guide on Arctic Silver's website you will see that your not suppost to spread it out. For the best dissipation you are suppost to put a drop about the size of a BB in the center of the IHS and then install the heatsink. Its just a waste of time to try and smear it over the entire IHS because your just using 5x the amount of AS and your not going to get any noticeable difference in temps.

 

[uOpt]

There is still some discussion whether the Silver one is capacitive (it is known not to conduct), so I use Ceramique.

Works great.

 

[charlietee]

Artic Silver 5 has no doubt the better thermal performance...2 to 3 degree's centigrade is nothing to sneeze at...Especially if you are into overclocking.

The real difference to me is that Cerminque is better for long term applications...Seems that the AS 5 disappears over time.

Overclocking, hot rod, gaming box...Artic Silver 5

Grandma's surfing, email, box...Cerminque.

In my humble opinion of course.

 

[MrControversial]

I use Ceramique on all my boxes. I don't have to worry about shorts with Ceramique since it is ceramic-based rather than metal-based.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Shootout

 

[SVT Cobra]

AS5 for the extra degrees, but the other if your a newbie, nothing worse than getting a unnoticed stray drop somehwere

 

[lestat0521]

You guys have it all wrong! I looked for something that was really dense and cheap. After days of search I came apon my answer. Its something we we ate for years in school. Some good ole white paste. aka. Glue! Trust me ...lowest temps ever.

p.s. i use a razor to even out the paste. Gamingphreek is right. smooth it out suckas or suffer!

edit: not going to point fingers but some "..." asked me to tell you all this is a fake post. No do not use glue.. I was kidding....

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: burningrave101

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
And putting a spot the size of a BB in the center of the IHS won't guarantee you get full coverage - which is why most folks choose to spread the paste across to make sure it's fully covered.

Your not suppost to get full coverage. If you will read the simple guide on Arctic Silver's website you will see that your not suppost to spread it out. For the best dissipation you are suppost to put a drop about the size of a BB in the center of the IHS and then install the heatsink. Its just a waste of time to try and smear it over the entire IHS because your just using 5x the amount of AS and your not going to get any noticeable difference in temps.

No!! If you simply put a drop and plop the HS you do not get full coverage of the core, which leads to hot spots and spikes. Additionally, you get large air pockets. YOu are supposed to put a very small drop on take a plastic bag or something and smear a very thin coat over the CPU and then use a sharp edge of a paper or something to smooth it out.

-Kevin

 

[FP]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: burningrave101

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
And putting a spot the size of a BB in the center of the IHS won't guarantee you get full coverage - which is why most folks choose to spread the paste across to make sure it's fully covered.

Your not suppost to get full coverage. If you will read the simple guide on Arctic Silver's website you will see that your not suppost to spread it out. For the best dissipation you are suppost to put a drop about the size of a BB in the center of the IHS and then install the heatsink. Its just a waste of time to try and smear it over the entire IHS because your just using 5x the amount of AS and your not going to get any noticeable difference in temps.

No!! If you simply put a drop and plop the HS you do not get full coverage of the core, which leads to hot spots and spikes. Additionally, you get large air pockets. YOu are supposed to put a very small drop on take a plastic bag or something and smear a very thin coat over the CPU and then use a sharp edge of a paper or something to smooth it out.

-Kevin

You are both right. It depends on the processor you are putting it on.

Linky

When I installed my XP-90, all I did was put a BB sized amount of AS5 on the heat spreader and put the heatsink on. I didn't bother putting some on the headsink first. I am running stock at 31 idle/43 load.

 

[sigpop]

Originally posted by: burningrave101

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I have both AS5 and Ceramique. AS5 is waaaay to thick. It's really really hard to spread. On the other hand, Ceramique has a good consistency. It's easy to spread but it won't run.

Well since your not suppost to spread it then it shouldn't matter if its thick or not. Your suppost to apply a small drop about the size of a BB to the center of the IHS on an Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 CPU.

actually, you are supposed to spread it on the heatsink, then wipe it off. then put a small drop on the cpu and mash together. details are on articsilver.com

 

[uOpt]

If the stuff is very thick I imagine it can put quite a bit of pointed pressure on the die when you just squeeze a drop flat, doesn't it?

Also, I think it is nontrivial to estimate the right amount of paste to put on if you don't spread it yourself. It would be easy to come up with something that is either no covering the whole die or that squeezes out to the sides or worse puts quite some distance between die and sink.

Ceramique seems to be almost as good as AS5 and can be applied any way you want.

Link to comparision of pastes:
http://www.neotec.pl/page.php?id=21

 

[charlietee]

I think I will follow Artic Silvers application instructions...I know they have probably forgotten more about TIM's than I will ever know.

Spread it out on a small core processor like AMD's...1/2 grain of rice on large core processors.

Hey they are making the stuff so chances are they probably know best how to use their products.

In my humble opinion of course.

"You guys have it all wrong! I looked for something that was really dense and cheap. After days of search I came apon my answer. Its something we we ate for years in school. Some good ole white paste. aka. Glue! Trust me ...lowest temps ever."

As for this statement by lestat0521 ... Are you for real ???? Making statements like that should include a disclaimer...Sounds like some dangerous and expensive advice.

 

[SVT Cobra]

i thought he was serious also, yet i would never try it...

I take some and smear it into my water block(heat sink b4) to get it into all of the little grooves and wipe it with a clean microfiber cloth until its dry, then i put a little dab and scread it around with the side of a credit card and add more if i need to, and make it smooth and flat taking my time. Then i place the heatsink on as level as possible so i dont push it all to one side placing it. either way if your heatsink isnt lapped right(which will get you as much as 5 degrees) any TIM or method isnt really going to make much a diff if you are tedious like me.

 

[FP]

Originally posted by: sigpop

Originally posted by: burningrave101

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I have both AS5 and Ceramique. AS5 is waaaay to thick. It's really really hard to spread. On the other hand, Ceramique has a good consistency. It's easy to spread but it won't run.

Well since your not suppost to spread it then it shouldn't matter if its thick or not. Your suppost to apply a small drop about the size of a BB to the center of the IHS on an Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 CPU.

actually, you are supposed to spread it on the heatsink, then wipe it off. then put a small drop on the cpu and mash together. details are on articsilver.com

that is only true for as 1,2,3... as 5 doesn't need to be put on the heatsink at all