Arctic Cooling Freezer Extreme

[toadeater]

Muahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

"Arctic Cooling has a new CPU cooler available called the Freezer Extreme that features 8 heat pipes, 226 fins and pre-applied MX-2 thermal paste."

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/632/1/

I must see benchmarks immediately!

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you, probably won't see benchmarks for atleast a few weeks. Has potential though, I'll give it that.

 

[TraumaRN]

Pushpins to secure it FTL :thumbsdown:

 

[MichaelD]

It also features a push pin installation which eliminates the need for screws which is something new for their coolers.

Here's what is confusing; look carefully at the pic. It DOES NOT look like it has the OEM-style pushpins; it looks like it has metal studs that protrude downwards. Or is that just the stand that it's sitting on?

It appears to be about the same size as a Tuniq Tower. Does this have the center mounted fan ala the Tuniq? From that pic it sort of looks like something could be in the middle.

I wonder what the MSRP will be? If it's the same as a Tuniq Tower, it better have the same performance. The only thing that keeps me from buying the Tuniq right now is the backplate install thing. I wish S775 had a better retention mechanism.

 

[sharad]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Pushpins to secure it FTL :thumbsdown:

QFT. I didn't realize how bad the socket 775 push-pin mounting mechanism was until I got myself a cooler with a backplate. Even the stock Intel cooler bends the motherboard considerably.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

It also features a push pin installation which eliminates the need for screws which is something new for their coolers.

I wonder what the MSRP will be? If it's the same as a Tuniq Tower, it better have the same performance. The only thing that keeps me from buying the Tuniq right now is the backplate install thing. I wish S775 had a better retention mechanism.

Plastic pushpins make me a sad panda.

Yes there's a decent ammount of work to pull your motherboard but, it's worth it, it really really is.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: MichaelD

It also features a push pin installation which eliminates the need for screws which is something new for their coolers.

I wonder what the MSRP will be? If it's the same as a Tuniq Tower, it better have the same performance. The only thing that keeps me from buying the Tuniq right now is the backplate install thing. I wish S775 had a better retention mechanism.

Plastic pushpins make me a sad panda.

Yes there's a decent ammount of work to pull your motherboard but, it's worth it, it really really is.

the person who came up with the pushpin idea should be drugged, shot and then mutulated.

Push Pins... GAH.... stupid retension system.

 

[Quiksilver]

Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

 

[toadeater]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It appears to be about the same size as a Tuniq Tower. Does this have the center mounted fan ala the Tuniq? From that pic it sort of looks like something could be in the middle.

You're right. There is a fan in the middle. They also claim that it is lighter than the Freezer 7, even though it's 120mm.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news_i...es_line_for_2008/2.jpg

 

[Old Hippie]

the person who came up with the pushpin idea should be drugged, shot and then mutulated.

Oh come'on Aigomorla, tell us how you really feel! :laugh:

 

[MarcVenice]

Meh, bunch of a people whining about pushpins. You should all be shot instead. It works just fine, for 'inexperienced' users, who don't want to use backplates, with risk of breaking your mobo in two, pushpins work just fine. I'll wait for some reviews, but for now, my pushpin attached arctic cooler 64 pro is working just fine. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't hate it when it's a perfectly fine product for lots of people out there.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Meh, bunch of a people whining about pushpins. You should all be shot instead. It works just fine, for 'inexperienced' users, who don't want to use backplates, with risk of breaking your mobo in two, pushpins work just fine. I'll wait for some reviews, but for now, my pushpin attached arctic cooler 64 pro is working just fine. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't hate it when it's a perfectly fine product for lots of people out there.

Thats the problem with pushpins. People who dont have any experience with other forms of mounts will think pushpins are great. However if you played with bolt spring mounts, you'll shake your head when you hear the word push pins.


When i talk about bolt spring mounts, i dont mean Thermalright spring bolt mounts. Im talking about the OG bolt mounts like the TT BigTyphoon, Tuniq, waterblocks. Where a backplate holds the the bolts on the underside to give support for the board when you clamp that thing on.

Also pushpins offer absolutely no tension adjustments with quadcores. That means your almost 100% gaurentee'd to get uneven core temps across all 4 cores. :T


So... blah... i hate push pins. Even the OG P4 brackets were so much better then pushpins. At least those only had 1 postion it could get into. Lock or unlock.

Pushpins, sometimes when you push them in, they WONT lock, and to be sure they do, board removal is almost neccessary for a firm clamp.

 

[MarcVenice]

That's a much better post, instead of just hating it without explaining. I bet bolt through kits are often better, but worth the hassle ? Not for me anyways. Now people can at least make up their mind, instead of having to wonder why you hate pushpin coolers so much, without any explanation.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
That's a much better post, instead of just hating it without explaining. I bet bolt through kits are often better, but worth the hassle ? Not for me anyways. Now people can at least make up their mind, instead of having to wonder why you hate pushpin coolers so much, without any explanation.

i was hoping someone else would explain it.

I wasnt the first one to comment on the pushpins thats why.

But yeah... i hate them.

 

[PolymerTim]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

I actually am considering the Ultima 90 for just this reason. I think the $20 or so price savings is negligible, but this thing is half the weight and much smaller than the other top coolers. It hangs right in there with the Tuniq 120 at idle and looks to me like it even beats it when overclocking and using a 120mm fan (if anybody can make out the Tunique on the scaling charts ). Looks to me like careful placement of 6 full pipes is more important than weight.

-Tim

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: PolymerTim

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

I actually am considering the Ultima 90 for just this reason. I think the $20 or so price savings is negligible, but this thing is half the weight and much smaller than the other top coolers. It hangs right in there with the Tuniq 120 at idle and looks to me like it even beats it when overclocking and using a 120mm fan (if anybody can make out the Tunique on the scaling charts ). Looks to me like careful placement of 6 full pipes is more important than weight.
-Tim

I would have bought the Ultima 90 but it would have been too little for my g0 q6600 (still in works) so I bought a tuniq instead, I would have with with a tru12e but its too tall for my case and the tuniq was the next best option.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

They have it, it's called TEC cooling or water cooling or phase change cooling or dry ice cooling or as far as liquid nitrogen cooling. The reason these heatsinks have to be so big is because air is a really inneficienct way to distribute heat. There are some shorter really wide heatsinks like the scythe mini but, for overall cooling power size matters if for no other reason because in order to absorb the ammount of heat needed there has to be a huge volume of air and enought surface area of metal to transfer that heat off.

the only way to make these heatsinks more effient would be to use materials that conduct more heat. The problem there is that a solid copper heatsink large enough to distribute the same ammount of heat as these aluminum ones would weigh 1.5 killograms. We were there a few years ago right before heatpipes really made it into desktop computing and motherboards were physically cracking and sockets were being permanantly freed from their motherboards. It was a slightly scary time in overclocking.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

They have it, it's called TEC cooling or water cooling or phase change cooling or dry ice cooling or as far as liquid nitrogen cooling. The reason these heatsinks have to be so big is because air is a really inneficienct way to distribute heat. There are some shorter really wide heatsinks like the scythe mini but, for overall cooling power size matters if for no other reason because in order to absorb the ammount of heat needed there has to be a huge volume of air and enought surface area of metal to transfer that heat off.

the only way to make these heatsinks more effient would be to use materials that conduct more heat. The problem there is that a solid copper heatsink large enough to distribute the same ammount of heat as these aluminum ones would weigh 1.5 killograms. We were there a few years ago right before heatpipes really made it into desktop computing and motherboards were physically cracking and sockets were being permanantly freed from their motherboards. It was a slightly scary time in overclocking.

Their is no TEC cooler on the market that can handle the heat output of the quad core right now and water cooling requires money, if you only have about $200 to spend on cooling you would better off be on air, cause all watercooling options on that area are going to suck compared to high end air.

OCZ was supposed to be working on some sort of carbon heatpipe heatsink thing that was supposed to be lighter than aluminum and more efficient than copper IIRC but I don't know what happened to it.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Damnit, can we get a small heatsink that outperforms current grossly huge heatsinks please.

No. There's the small issue of thermodynamics to deal with, but once you get past that, computer guys are the same as every other guy and size matters.

Lemme clarify what I meant by small, I mean low profile. Sure the tuniq tower and the tru12E does well, but for the most part its from brute force by using lots aluminum. Why wouldn't they be able to do the same with heatsinks that are wider but not nearly as tall or even use a new thermal cooling design that doesn't require brute force cooling.

They have it, it's called TEC cooling or water cooling or phase change cooling or dry ice cooling or as far as liquid nitrogen cooling. The reason these heatsinks have to be so big is because air is a really inneficienct way to distribute heat. There are some shorter really wide heatsinks like the scythe mini but, for overall cooling power size matters if for no other reason because in order to absorb the ammount of heat needed there has to be a huge volume of air and enought surface area of metal to transfer that heat off.

the only way to make these heatsinks more effient would be to use materials that conduct more heat. The problem there is that a solid copper heatsink large enough to distribute the same ammount of heat as these aluminum ones would weigh 1.5 killograms. We were there a few years ago right before heatpipes really made it into desktop computing and motherboards were physically cracking and sockets were being permanantly freed from their motherboards. It was a slightly scary time in overclocking.

Their is no TEC cooler on the market that can handle the heat output of the quad core right now and water cooling requires money, if you only have about $200 to spend on cooling you would better off be on air, cause all watercooling options on that area are going to suck compared to high end air.

OCZ was supposed to be working on some sort of carbon heatpipe heatsink thing that was supposed to be lighter than aluminum and more efficient than copper IIRC but I don't know what happened to it.

It was based on the same principals as carbon nanotubes, just on a non-nano scale, so it's a ways off. There are TEC's out there that could handle a quadcore just fine, stock at least.