Fingolfin269
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chalmers
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Oh ok. That makes them awesome then I presume. Like these bands?
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-31/...mmy-taylor-swift-prince-michael?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ
Dixie Chicks (2007)
Outkast (2004) lmao
You really put me in my place.
Yup. You're getting old. One of the first signs is to lose the ability to appreciate new music. No offense intended but, "old" people tend to reject the new in favor of what they're familiar with.
HendrixFan
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They play anthem rock, their songs are perfect for singing along in a huge venue. That and their intensity on stage make them the best live act out there.
Nemesis 1
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Anubis
No Lifer
chalmers
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OILFIELDTRASH
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Take it easy on me young'un. I did check out that YouTube link posted above and I like it. It definitely is a cut above the other garbage being passed off as music today. Btw how old are you?
HendrixFan
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The Love Below half of the Outkast album was top 10 of this decade IMO. Name a better single than "Hey Ya" over the past 10 years, you just can't. It was Andre 3000's run at a concept album and for his first foray into something beyond pure hip hop it was incredible to experience.
His duet with Norah Jones is worth the price of admission alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQHFqO6HvY
chalmers
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Oh. Well the thread title asks if they're the best band ever, not the best live band. I don't go to many concerts so I don't care who the best live band is. I'm sure it's someone that nobody has ever heard of because they have to tour a ton, they don't sell that many albums.
chalmers
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glenn1
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Wow, that's authoritative. That puts them right up with there with former "New Artist of the Year" winners Milli Vanilli and other winners like Michael Bolton and the Baha Men (of "Who Let the Dogs Out" fame).
TheAdvocate
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I thought we got past the entire cliche backlash thing when they won the grammy 6-7 mos ago?
Obligatory - been a fan since XXXXX. First time I heard them, I didn't like Win's voice. But one of my best friends, whose opinion I usually trust, kept hounding me. So, just after Funeral came out, I found myself at a Borders listening station, when Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels) started trickling out of the headphones. About 5 minutes later I was hooked.
Like any band to rise to as much citical, and now, commercial/public prominence, there's going to be the inevitable backlash, and when you're under that much of a microscope, all of your warts are on display. Still, I have never seen them live and not come away with an enormous smile on my face and a feeling that I, and the people I went to the show with, were part of something, however small, brief, or relatively insignficant. And here's the telling part - I listen to too many bands to have any kind of accurate count of. I am obsessed with music, from multiple genres and decades/periods, to the point where I keep about 96GB of songs in my car alone (multiple USB drives), and the folder that I consistently pull up month after month, for the last several years, is Arcade Fire. They're just... good.
And there's no use arguing particular musical preferences. darkswordsman17 it seems, prefers a little more hotdog virtuosity. Good thing, I say, because folks like you keep a lot of musicians in business. I've never believed in that at all. Most of my musical heroes, from blues guys like BB King, to british rockers like the Kinks, on to more modern bands, have consistently held to the idea that you do not overplay. Play what the song needs and nothing more - that is the true art to playing music. Overplaying is the science of technical wizardry, but I personally don't consider it art. As for Arcade Fire's musicianship - you only have to see them jumping from instrument to instrument, incorporating a lot of sounds that were certainly not in vogue several years ago (yes, the hurdy-gurdy), and watch them NOT overplay them, to appreciate that they are searching for a very particular sound, and so they will not overdo it. Melody is a delicate thing and they are going to achieve it with just enough effort. Also, they are paced by one of the better bass and drum combos in pop music. Those guys could play anything, but choose not to.
Also - as for their lyrics and the defining lyrical "importance" or weight - they do tend to retain a perspective of someone much younger than any of them currently are - that almost childlike wonderment that some people still retain into their twenties (or longer). I don't fault them for that - that's kind of the point of a lot of their early music - how we too easily give up on those ideals. They're not focusing as much on the specific, except as it relates to the bigger idea. A lot of other bands can hit you over the head with grizzly, depressing details about abuse, emotional degradation, and descent into the abyss. That's not to say there is no weight. Neon Bible is so loaded down with it that it's almost too preachy - something I think Win and Regine were trying to overcome on The Suburbs.
In any case, AF are pretty much cementing themselves as one of the most prominent pop/rock bands of the last 20 years. They already made the best (by consensus critical opinion) pop album of the last decade (Funeral). A couple more solid albums, and it'll be hard to not call them legends.
But don't just listen to them. There is so much good music out there. I do dislike hearing someone discover them or another band and go into crush mode and not listen to anything else (or give any other bands credit) for months or years on end. That's too narrow of a viewpoint. If anything, listening to other music will help put them in perspective, in a healthy way. As much as it seems I like them, I listen to hundreds of other bands every week.
PS - thanks to anyone who doesnt reply tl;dr
Obligatory - been a fan since XXXXX. First time I heard them, I didn't like Win's voice. But one of my best friends, whose opinion I usually trust, kept hounding me. So, just after Funeral came out, I found myself at a Borders listening station, when Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels) started trickling out of the headphones. About 5 minutes later I was hooked.
Like any band to rise to as much citical, and now, commercial/public prominence, there's going to be the inevitable backlash, and when you're under that much of a microscope, all of your warts are on display. Still, I have never seen them live and not come away with an enormous smile on my face and a feeling that I, and the people I went to the show with, were part of something, however small, brief, or relatively insignficant. And here's the telling part - I listen to too many bands to have any kind of accurate count of. I am obsessed with music, from multiple genres and decades/periods, to the point where I keep about 96GB of songs in my car alone (multiple USB drives), and the folder that I consistently pull up month after month, for the last several years, is Arcade Fire. They're just... good.
And there's no use arguing particular musical preferences. darkswordsman17 it seems, prefers a little more hotdog virtuosity. Good thing, I say, because folks like you keep a lot of musicians in business. I've never believed in that at all. Most of my musical heroes, from blues guys like BB King, to british rockers like the Kinks, on to more modern bands, have consistently held to the idea that you do not overplay. Play what the song needs and nothing more - that is the true art to playing music. Overplaying is the science of technical wizardry, but I personally don't consider it art. As for Arcade Fire's musicianship - you only have to see them jumping from instrument to instrument, incorporating a lot of sounds that were certainly not in vogue several years ago (yes, the hurdy-gurdy), and watch them NOT overplay them, to appreciate that they are searching for a very particular sound, and so they will not overdo it. Melody is a delicate thing and they are going to achieve it with just enough effort. Also, they are paced by one of the better bass and drum combos in pop music. Those guys could play anything, but choose not to.
Also - as for their lyrics and the defining lyrical "importance" or weight - they do tend to retain a perspective of someone much younger than any of them currently are - that almost childlike wonderment that some people still retain into their twenties (or longer). I don't fault them for that - that's kind of the point of a lot of their early music - how we too easily give up on those ideals. They're not focusing as much on the specific, except as it relates to the bigger idea. A lot of other bands can hit you over the head with grizzly, depressing details about abuse, emotional degradation, and descent into the abyss. That's not to say there is no weight. Neon Bible is so loaded down with it that it's almost too preachy - something I think Win and Regine were trying to overcome on The Suburbs.
In any case, AF are pretty much cementing themselves as one of the most prominent pop/rock bands of the last 20 years. They already made the best (by consensus critical opinion) pop album of the last decade (Funeral). A couple more solid albums, and it'll be hard to not call them legends.
But don't just listen to them. There is so much good music out there. I do dislike hearing someone discover them or another band and go into crush mode and not listen to anything else (or give any other bands credit) for months or years on end. That's too narrow of a viewpoint. If anything, listening to other music will help put them in perspective, in a healthy way. As much as it seems I like them, I listen to hundreds of other bands every week.
PS - thanks to anyone who doesnt reply tl;dr
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HendrixFan
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Metal makes for rough anthem rock. Having 50,000 people sing along with songs designed to be sung along with while a band hammers away with amazing vigor is pretty special. Find a band they have played with and that band will say their live act is on another plane.
chalmers
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Not everyone likes 'anthem rock', or whatever the heck that's supposed to mean.
HendrixFan
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chalmers
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I take that back, after reading what it means on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_rock
I like alot of the bands listed there. I surely didn't like that crap I just heard on Youtube though.
Triumph
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Eh, it's ok. I could maybe get into it. Sounds very British/Muse/Radiohead like.
Besides, we all know Dethklok is the best band in the last forever
http://youtu.be/o0P-TTnYqws
Thunder! Horse! Thunder! Horse! Tell me you couldn't scream that as a crowd in a huge arena.
chalmers
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I barely consider 'Hey Ya' to be music, so we're just on different planes of the argument. No need to discuss further.
TheAdvocate
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glenn1
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Picking a single song as the "best" of any decade is a fools errand. What makes Hey Ya any better than other songs typically cited, like Gnarls Barkley's Crazy? Or Eminem's Lose Yourself?
TheAdvocate
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If you're going to post a link to their show closer - post something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq6M4PWKvq4&feature=related
WakeUp @ Glastonbury 2007
or @ Reading 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OmMPaLmxKg
My favorite was when they unloaded all those lighted balloons, I think it was ACL this year? That was amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq6M4PWKvq4&feature=related
WakeUp @ Glastonbury 2007
or @ Reading 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OmMPaLmxKg
My favorite was when they unloaded all those lighted balloons, I think it was ACL this year? That was amazing.
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glenn1
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It wasn't meant as an insult. All musicians build on those who came before, and I'd be surprised if Arcade Fire didn't grow up listening to stuff like Siouxsie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen, and other 80s alternative bands.
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