Aragorn's Sword

glen

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What did they do in the movie?
They show the Shard's of Narsil in Rivendale, but the hilt shown is different from the hilt of the sword Aragorn is using later in the film.
 

Marshy

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Isn't that because it's a different sword?

His hardcore one Izandels (or however its spelt) is reforged later,

The Mársh
 

Farbio

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no, aragorn's sword is reforged in rivendell and he has it throughout the whole journey.....that was one of my big problems with the movie....that and arwen, but oh well, had to get more than one female character in the movie somewhere:)
 

Nemesis77

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To my knowledge, the sword Aragorn uses in the movie is NOT Anduril. It's a different sword. He receives the reforged Anduril propably at Helms Deep.
 

isildur

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no, aragorn's sword is reforged in rivendell and he has it throughout the whole journey.....that was one of my big problems with the movie....that and arwen, but oh well, had to get more than one female character in the movie somewhere:)



no no no - watch the movie again and pay attention this time, or do some net reading. Aragorn, at no point in the film, carries Narsil. The sword that he carries after Rivendell is clearly not Narsil - you get good looks at it when Boromir picks the ring up out of the snow and at Amon Hen when Aragorn turns to face the Uruk Hai.

IN THE BOOK, Aragorn carries the sword broken until it is reforged in Rivendell.

What is likely is that either Arwen will bring it to him @ Helm's Deep (that has been rumored, but nowhere that I have seen yet by a credible source), or that either the rest of the rangers and/or sons of Elrond will bring it to him before the Path's of the Dead when they bring him the Standard of Elendil.

 

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<< no, aragorn's sword is reforged in rivendell and he has it throughout the whole journey.....that was one of my big problems with the movie....that and arwen, but oh well, had to get more than one female character in the movie somewhere:)


no no no - watch the movie again and pay attention this time, or do some net reading. Aragorn, at no point in the film, carries Narsil. The sword that he carries after Rivendell is clearly not Narsil - you get good looks at it when Boromir picks the ring up out of the snow and at Amon Hen when Aragorn turns to face the Uruk Hai.

IN THE BOOK, Aragorn carries the sword broken until it is reforged in Rivendell.

What is likely is that either Arwen will bring it to him @ Helm's Deep (that has been rumored, but nowhere that I have seen yet by a credible source), or that either the rest of the rangers and/or sons of Elrond will bring it to him before the Path's of the Dead when they bring him the Standard of Elendil.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I also noticed that he should have been carrying it the whole time, but it will probably work better in the films if it's brought to him later.

Considering the length of the first movie and having re-read FotR just before the film's release, I'm pretty happy with the adaptation. I hope to have the same opinion of the next two.
 

isildur

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I dont know but look, it's sting

:D

"...and today, for just 3 low payments of 19.95, you too can own the fierce elven blade Sting..."
 

Lalakai

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another discrepency was his sword at Bree; it was whole. In the book it mentioned that he was holding a broken sword. Overall a good movie; can't wait for the director's cut which is rumored to be more then 4 hours long :D
 

kami

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I agree that the best bet is Arwen brings it to him at Helms Deep. There are other possible ways but that makes the most sense now. Non-Tolkien people might forget about Arwen if they don't put her in the second movie.
I'm not even worried about this if they do though, since I though Liv did a good job with Arwen...definitely better than I expected.
 

Triumph

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I retract my statement. Despite having read the books and related material countless times, I don't know what i'm talking about.
 

kami

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<< Yeah, what's the whole deal with Arwen? Everyone knows he hooks up with Eowyn for real. >>


huh?
 

Bignate603

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In the book Anduril is reforged at Rivendell, which i think they could have done (it's not like it would change the film) but i guess he gets it at Helms Deep now.
 

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<< can't wait for the director's cut which is rumored to be more then 4 hours long :D >>


my thoughts exactly...once they all come out and i have all the director's cuts it will take an entire day to watch the whole thing but you can be sure i'll do it
 

XMan

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<< Yeah, what's the whole deal with Arwen? Everyone knows he hooks up with Eowyn for real. >>


huh?


Double huh?

He marries Arwen in ROTK . . . he spends most of the second book with Eowyn, IIRC, but nothing happens.
 

cavingjan

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Assuming that Aragorn gets it at the same time he gets his standard (right before the Path of the Dead), how are they going to handle the issue with him not having it when he meets the riders of Rohan since that was one of the items he yet again produces to show his true heritage?
I thought the lack of letter/broken sword combo in Bree was sorely missed (would've added one miute that could have easily been taken out of the wizard duel that was too long for a one sentence item in the book).
I just didn't like how they showed Arwen controlling the water in the river (which was supposed to be done by both Elrond and Gandalf). Just seemed to overbalance the elves from the rest of the world.
 

kami

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<< I just didn't like how they showed Arwen controlling the water in the river (which was supposed to be done by both Elrond and Gandalf). Just seemed to overbalance the elves from the rest of the world. >>


I don't think she summoned that wave on her own. I believe Rivendell and that whole area have some sort of subtle unseen power. I think she was just "calling for help" (that's a bad way to say it) to the powers of Rivendell (more specifically, her father Elrond). And I still think it was good old Gandalf who added his own little touch (the horses) :)
 

cavingjan

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Kami - I'd agree with you if it had been mentioned at all in Rivendale. Only takes a quick sentence from Gandalf at Frodo's bed to settle that one but people who obviously weren't familiar with the books questioned why Arwen didn't go with the fellowship since she had such power. Just comments I heard people make while walking out the door the other week.
 

The Dancing Peacock

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So what do the books say about her not going? I was wondering that myself. I haven't read the books, I'm getting them from the library next week (Mom's a librarian :) cheaper than Amazon or Borders, but I'll probably buy them at some point)
 

Triumph

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Arwen really isn't that big a character, especially in Fellowship. She only has a few lines when meeting Aragorn in Rivendell. She doesn't appear at all in The Two Towers.
 
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God, I hate using anandtech on a Mac...all the javascript makes it CRAWL...

Anyway, yeah swords are a big issue. I suppose Aragorn might have had a second sword to fight with, but he still should have been carrying the shards of Narsil. een rforged in Rivendell <--OK, see what the java lag does? The page was still loading, what that REALLY said was "And it should definitely have been reforged in Rivendell." Anyhoo, that brings us to how he's going to get it; if Arwen brings it to him I'm going to go take my authentic Sting replica and thrust it into Peter Jackson's chest about 7 times. She already took all the scenes from one of my favorite characters and had entirely too much power and importance. Not to mention she gave Aragorn the necklace that she's supposed to give to Frodo at the very very end. Sigh...Elladan and Elrohir should bring it when the D?nedain come, Aragorn will just have to deal with the Riders. Perhaps he can whip out the Elendilmir. That's not what happens in the book, but hell nothing else in the movie did, so why not!? Let's see, what other sword issues are there...Glamdring doesn't glow in the slightest in Moria...the hobbits get some cheesy modern short swords instead of good forged knives of Westernesse that have anti-evil enchantments and cool red-gold serpents and such...ah well, such is Hollywood. Don't get me wrong, I like the movie, but you just can't compare it to the book.
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