Arabs in Israel to make peace

[Narmer]

I don't know why the State of Israel would take these two countries seriously. Look at them. They're weak. Their representatives are fed, overweight effeminate men who probably never picked up a weapon. Contrast that with their Israeli counterparts or the hungry mujahadeen fighters (in the trenches waving the banner of political Islam) who know nothing but fighting. No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

This is all a ruse and I see right through these clowns. My guess is that Israel will "seriously consider" their dumb offer and pay lip service to them so long as America continues to "loan" (read give) billions in aid. Well, I guess I answered my own question. This trip to Israel is a complete farce.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6915976.stm

Arabs woo Israel over peace plan

The two Arab countries with ties to Israel have paid an historic visit to the Jewish state to "extend the hand of peace" on behalf of their fellow Arabs.

The Egyptian and Jordanian foreign ministers' visit was to present a peace plan backed by the Arab League, which has no diplomatic ties with Israel.

The proposal envisages the recognition of Israel if it leaves occupied Palestinian land.

Israel's prime minister has said the Arab plan contains positive elements.

"We are extending a hand of peace on behalf of the whole region to you, and we hope that we will be able to create the momentum needed to resume fruitful and productive negotiations," said Jordan's Abdulelah Khatib.

Israeli-Palestinian negotiations have not seen progress for seven years, a period in which more than 5,000 people have died in violence, the large majority of them Palestinians.

Mr Khatib said Israel needed to agree on a precise timetable "not to waste this historic opportunity".

The visit comes a day after the maiden mission of new envoy Tony Blair, the former UK prime minister, and is part of a flurry of diplomatic efforts.

Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel and have sent many delegations there.

'Common ground'

Mr Khatib and Egypt's Ahmed Aboul Gheit are presenting a long-standing Arab League initiative that was readopted at a meeting in Saudi Arabia recently.

The initiative offers Israel normal ties with all Arab states in return for a full Israeli withdrawal from territory it occupied in 1967, the creation of a Palestinian state and a solution to the Palestinian refugee problem.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said there was "a chance in the near future for the process to ripen into talks that would, in effect, deal with the stages of establishing a Palestinian state".

Correspondents say his comments are the clearest statement yet of Israel's intention to try to relaunch final-status talks.

But Olmert said there were "no precise timetables or stages established yet".

Any progress needs to address recent developments in Gaza which last month fell under the control of Hamas - the militant Islamist movement boycotted by both Israel and the rival Palestinian movement Fatah which holds sway in the West Bank.

'Land swap'

Israeli foreign ministry spokesman called the visit historic, saying: "In the past, the Arab League has opposed dialogue, normalisation and any contact with Israel and this is the first time the Arab League has authorised a delegation to visit Israel."

But Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa stressed the ministers were not representing the organisation.

"They are not acting under the banner of the Arab League. They are not going on behalf of the Arab League nor have they been sent as delegates by the Arab League.

"They represent two Arab countries that for certain circumstances entered into peace accords and official diplomatic relations," he said.

On Wednesday, the Israeli Haaretz newspaper said Israel was considering an "an agreement of principles" with Palestinians that could establish a Palestinian state on 90% of occupied territory.

The paper said Israel would propose a tunnel linking the West Bank and Gaza, while there would also be a territorial exchange allowing Israel to keep its main Jewish settlements.

In other moves, King Abdullah of Jordan met President George W Bush at a private dinner in Washington.

Meanwhile, Mr Blair continued his tour of the region with visits scheduled for Bahrain and Abu Dhabi on Wednesday.

 

[EagleKeeper]

So they are presenting a peace plan supposedly backed by the Arab League, but they are not sanctioned to do so by the Arab league.

Seeing wow those are the only two Arab countries that share a border with Israel, recognize Israel and have treaties with Israel, it seems only reasonible that they were selected to present the unofficial official proposal.

No other Arab countny has the political resolution to send a delegate to Israel.

The big question is (as indicated) is this with or without the concurence of the Palestinian leadership(s).

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
So they are presenting a peace plan supposedly backed by the Arab League, but they are not sanctioned to do so by the Arab league.

Seeing wow those are the only two Arab countries that share a border with Israel, recognize Israel and have treaties with Israel, it seems only reasonible that they were selected to present the unofficial official proposal.

No other Arab countny has the political resolution to send a delegate to Israel.

The big question is (as indicated) is this with or without the concurence of the Palestinian leadership(s).

Did you notice the timing of this? Besides, there are other arab countries (notably Saudi Arabia and Syria) that would have a bigger standing than these two.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
So they are presenting a peace plan supposedly backed by the Arab League, but they are not sanctioned to do so by the Arab league.

Seeing wow those are the only two Arab countries that share a border with Israel, recognize Israel and have treaties with Israel, it seems only reasonable that they were selected to present the unofficial official proposal.

No other Arab country has the political resolution to send a delegate to Israel.

The big question is (as indicated) is this with or without the concurrence of the Palestinian leadership(s).

Did you notice the timing of this? Besides, there are other Arab countries (notably Saudi Arabia and Syria) that would have a bigger standing than these two.

Timing w/ respect to what? the WB vs Gaza or something else is going on?

Saudi & Syria have never declared a cessation of hostilities.

Syria also acts as a proxy for the Iranian hardliners as well as other Arab groups.
Saudi is also a hotbed of extremists preaching from the pulpits and can be unstable if they deviate to far from the anti-Israeli sentiment posed by the religious leadership.

Syria can not afford to antagonize it's sponsors and given the anti-Israeli noise that gets spouted around Saudi, it would be foolish for either them to officially participate.

 

[palehorse]

I would think that any attempt at peace is better than none. One of thee days, it just might work out... by accident!

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
So they are presenting a peace plan supposedly backed by the Arab League, but they are not sanctioned to do so by the Arab league.

Seeing wow those are the only two Arab countries that share a border with Israel, recognize Israel and have treaties with Israel, it seems only reasonable that they were selected to present the unofficial official proposal.

No other Arab country has the political resolution to send a delegate to Israel.

The big question is (as indicated) is this with or without the concurrence of the Palestinian leadership(s).

Did you notice the timing of this? Besides, there are other Arab countries (notably Saudi Arabia and Syria) that would have a bigger standing than these two.

Timing w/ respect to what? the WB vs Gaza or something else is going on?

Saudi & Syria have never declared a cessation of hostilities.

Syria also acts as a proxy for the Iranian hardliners as well as other Arab groups.
Saudi is also a hotbed of extremists preaching from the pulpits and can be unstable if they deviate to far from the anti-Israeli sentiment posed by the religious leadership.

Syria can not afford to antagonize it's sponsors and given the anti-Israeli noise that gets spouted around Saudi, it would be foolish for either them to officially participate.

Saudi Arabia has never declared war with Israel. But, after Egypt, SA is the most influential Arab nation and the most influential Muslim nation.

Syria has many things Israel wants. Hence, a peace offer from her would be taken very seriously. Syria "may" be a proxy for other nations, but the fact that she and Israel are still technically at war will make any and all parties pay attention to her conditions.

Bush's aggressive policies in the ME have met their match, so he's regressed to the "peace plan" he's only paid lip service to during his presidency. His two whores are assuming their positions on cue to provide their master with whatever he needs. It's sad and pathetic to watch, actually.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I have always thought that Saudi support the Arab league (money, troops, logistics) in the conflicts with Israel.
If I am mistaken, ...

As you stated, a peace offer from Syria would be something. Politically, I feel that Syria can not afford to extend the overture, even as part of a delegation.

Saudi is very influential, however, with the unrest internally, it could be the straw that would errupt the class warfare within that country. So they can not be expected to particpate for the same reasons that I stated for Syria.

 

[Lemon law]

I see nothing wrong with talking----but I see no signs that Israel is willing to make the concessions that will make any real progress. And hence it may be another feel good spin
the wheels while stuck in a rut. The devil is always in the details.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I see nothing wrong with talking----but I see no signs that Israel is willing to make the concessions that will make any real progress. And hence it may be another feel good spin
the wheels while stuck in a rut. The devil is always in the details.

So under blackmail of continued war and violence the western world and our allies must make concessions of such consequence as to bring about real progress? At what point up to conceding our continued existence do you stop and realize those who have sworn death intend to continue until it is carried out?

In shorter verse, what limit do you put on the concessions?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I see nothing wrong with talking----but I see no signs that Israel is willing to make the concessions that will make any real progress. And hence it may be another feel good spin
the wheels while stuck in a rut. The devil is always in the details.

So under blackmail of continued war and violence the western world and our allies must make concessions of such consequence as to bring about real progress? At what point up to conceding our continued existence do you stop and realize those who have sworn death intend to continue until it is carried out?

In shorter verse, what limit do you put on the concessions?

What concessions?

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't know why the State of Israel would take these two countries seriously. Look at them. They're weak. Their representatives are fed, overweight effeminate men who probably never picked up a weapon. Contrast that with their Israeli counterparts or the hungry mujahadeen fighters (in the trenches waving the banner of political Islam) who know nothing but fighting. No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

This is all a ruse and I see right through these clowns. My guess is that Israel will "seriously consider" their dumb offer and pay lip service to them so long as America continues to "loan" (read give) billions in aid. Well, I guess I answered my own question. This trip to Israel is a complete farce.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6915976.stm

Arabs woo Israel over peace plan

The two Arab countries with ties to Israel have paid an historic visit to the Jewish state to "extend the hand of peace" on behalf of their fellow Arabs.

You are starting to sound like a bitter, bitter old man.....
Still sad Hamas cancelled Micky the Suicide Bomber TV show? Maybe you can sign up for Public Access TV and do your Ivy league educated political commentary right after the Nation of Islam is done bitching. I see TV in your future and it looks something like this.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I see nothing wrong with talking----but I see no signs that Israel is willing to make the concessions that will make any real progress. And hence it may be another feel good spin
the wheels while stuck in a rut. The devil is always in the details.

So under blackmail of continued war and violence the western world and our allies must make concessions of such consequence as to bring about real progress? At what point up to conceding our continued existence do you stop and realize those who have sworn death intend to continue until it is carried out?

In shorter verse, what limit do you put on the concessions?

What concessions?

he's referring to the concessions Israel is apparently required to make before peace can happen - Which are, in my opinion, excessive. Apparently Lemon feels differently...

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't know why the State of Israel would take these two countries seriously. Look at them. They're weak. Their representatives are fed, overweight effeminate men who probably never picked up a weapon. Contrast that with their Israeli counterparts or the hungry mujahadeen fighters (in the trenches waving the banner of political Islam) who know nothing but fighting. No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

This is all a ruse and I see right through these clowns. My guess is that Israel will "seriously consider" their dumb offer and pay lip service to them so long as America continues to "loan" (read give) billions in aid. Well, I guess I answered my own question. This trip to Israel is a complete farce.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6915976.stm

Arabs woo Israel over peace plan

The two Arab countries with ties to Israel have paid an historic visit to the Jewish state to "extend the hand of peace" on behalf of their fellow Arabs.

You are starting to sound like a bitter, bitter old man.....
Still sad Hamas cancelled Micky the Suicide Bomber TV show? Maybe you can sign up for Public Access TV and do your Ivy league educated political commentary right after the Nation of Islam is done bitching. I see TV in your future and it looks something like this.

You'd be bitter too if you understood the farce of all this. Incompetent men in leadership positions. Wealth and privilege triumphs over knowledge and common sense. Weapons sale getting priority over trade deals that will actually help the region. I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't know why the State of Israel would take these two countries seriously. Look at them. They're weak. Their representatives are fed, overweight effeminate men who probably never picked up a weapon. Contrast that with their Israeli counterparts or the hungry mujahadeen fighters (in the trenches waving the banner of political Islam) who know nothing but fighting. No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

This is all a ruse and I see right through these clowns. My guess is that Israel will "seriously consider" their dumb offer and pay lip service to them so long as America continues to "loan" (read give) billions in aid. Well, I guess I answered my own question. This trip to Israel is a complete farce.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6915976.stm

Arabs woo Israel over peace plan

The two Arab countries with ties to Israel have paid an historic visit to the Jewish state to "extend the hand of peace" on behalf of their fellow Arabs.

You are starting to sound like a bitter, bitter old man.....
Still sad Hamas cancelled Micky the Suicide Bomber TV show? Maybe you can sign up for Public Access TV and do your Ivy league educated political commentary right after the Nation of Islam is done bitching. I see TV in your future and it looks something like this.

You'd be bitter too if you understood the farce of all this. Incompetent men in leadership positions. Wealth and privilege triumphs over knowledge and common sense. Weapons sale getting priority over trade deals that will actually help the region. I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

Stop with your bullshit conspiracy theories, why don't you come out like a man and say what you stand for, rather than hiding behind your supposed Ivy league education and cultured New York city life.. Come on Narmer, scream it out: You feel sympathy for the 9/11 bombers and feel their actions are justified. You hate America, what it stands for, the the current world hegemony that it represents. You think the poor throughout the world have the right take wealth from the oppressors, even if the oppressors worked hard for their status. Meanwhile, a hypocrite like you spends 30k a year going to Ivy league schools (supposedly) instead of donating that money towards the poor people you so admire.

You believe Israel is either the master of the world involved in worldwide conspiracy to make your beloved Islamic extremists look bad, or you believe Israel is a puppet the US.. Not sure which one of those you believe since most of your posts include one or the other.

Narmer, legetimize yourself on these boards and man up to your beliefs. Don't be afraid to tell us what you really think, there is nothing to hide. If Khalid Khashoggi told you some insider information about the Zionist - American conspiracy to bring the world down, please let us know right away... I mean two fellow Ivy League graduates such as yourself and Khalid can never be wrong about anything.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't know why the State of Israel would take these two countries seriously. Look at them. They're weak. Their representatives are fed, overweight effeminate men who probably never picked up a weapon. Contrast that with their Israeli counterparts or the hungry mujahadeen fighters (in the trenches waving the banner of political Islam) who know nothing but fighting. No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

This is all a ruse and I see right through these clowns. My guess is that Israel will "seriously consider" their dumb offer and pay lip service to them so long as America continues to "loan" (read give) billions in aid. Well, I guess I answered my own question. This trip to Israel is a complete farce.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6915976.stm

Arabs woo Israel over peace plan

The two Arab countries with ties to Israel have paid an historic visit to the Jewish state to "extend the hand of peace" on behalf of their fellow Arabs.

You are starting to sound like a bitter, bitter old man.....
Still sad Hamas cancelled Micky the Suicide Bomber TV show? Maybe you can sign up for Public Access TV and do your Ivy league educated political commentary right after the Nation of Islam is done bitching. I see TV in your future and it looks something like this.

You'd be bitter too if you understood the farce of all this. Incompetent men in leadership positions. Wealth and privilege triumphs over knowledge and common sense. Weapons sale getting priority over trade deals that will actually help the region. I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

Stop with your bullshit conspiracy theories, why don't you come out like a man and say what you stand for, rather than hiding behind your supposed Ivy league education and cultured New York city life.. Come on Narmer, scream it out: You feel sympathy for the 9/11 bombers and feel their actions are justified. You hate America, what it stands for, the the current world hegemony that it represents. You think the poor throughout the world have the right take wealth from the oppressors, even if the oppressors worked hard for their status. Meanwhile, a hypocrite like you spends 30k a year going to Ivy league schools (supposedly) instead of donating that money towards the poor people you so admire.

You believe Israel is either the master of the world involved in worldwide conspiracy to make your beloved Islamic extremists look bad, or you believe Israel is a puppet the US.. Not sure which one of those you believe since most of your posts include one or the other.

Narmer, legetimize yourself on these boards and man up to your beliefs. Don't be afraid to tell us what you really think, there is nothing to hide. If Khalid Khashoggi told you some insider information about the Zionist - American conspiracy to bring the world down, please let us know right away... I mean two fellow Ivy League graduates such as yourself and Khalid can never be wrong about anything.

You must not have gotten laid in a while. I can't help you with that but I can alleviate your frustration in other ways. First of all, college is way more than 30k. Second of all, if you had the capacity to comprehend, I've never claimed there was any such zionist conspiracy. I have no idea where you got that from. Third, I've spoken my mind here so clearly that I cannot believe you still don't get it. Maybe you're slow. Maybe you're what. But whatever the issue is, I suggest you go back and read what I've posted. Oh, and please try to stay on topic.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Narmer


You must not have gotten laid in a while. I can't help you with that but I can alleviate your frustration in other ways. First of all, college is way more than 30k. Second of all, if you had the capacity to comprehend, I've never claimed there was any such zionist conspiracy. I have no idea where you got that from. Third, I've spoken my mind here so clearly that I cannot believe you still don't get it. Maybe you're slow. Maybe you're what. But whatever the issue is, I suggest you go back and read what I've posted. Oh, and please try to stay on topic.

No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

Hmm.. To me it sounds like a conspiracy when the leader of the last remaining superpower has so much force as to bribe a country like Israel with gifts in the form of billions of dollars in loans (read give) to set up a peace summit meant to divert attention from the ass kicking in, "Iraq, Afghanistan and the "horses" (Israel) he backed in Lebanon and Palestine that got schooled on how to fight and lead"

So in your twisted logic, Israel got schooled in Palestine because the gave up Gaza to fighters that know how to fight and lead? Even thought they could wipe out Gaza in a second if they so desired? And how did the Palestinians school the world on how to lead? By creating two separate entities in the form of warring hostilities between Hamas and Fatah? By having Hamas isolated because of their terrorist leanings while their own people starve and continue to wallow in misery? Is that your definition of "schooling"? Were the Lebanese schooling the Israelis while their infrastructure was getting destroyed? The terrorist heroes you support only cause more pain by continuing to preach the same savage rhetoric. You dream of a day where all Islamic countries are overthrown by the people, which as you surely know would form Islamic law, creating more suffering for everyone.

Originally posted by: Narmer

I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

I guess puppet masters that control the world have nothing to do with conspiracy. I'll call it Zionist because that is what it invariably winds up meaning when terrorist sympathizers such as yourself talk about "puppet masters".. Maybe you mean the United States, either way you are off base.

The other point to that message is how you are dying to see the middle east engulfed so that the puppet masters (arabs regimes supported by the US) are removed. I guess you have no problem paying $15 a gallon for gas and have no problem with Islamic law being introduced to the entire middle east. Your damn right the entire world would change, the middle east paradise you envision would turn in to one large glass parking lot after we are through with them. And I know you would have no problem with that since you believe that fighters and rebels hold more legitimacy than peacemakers.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer


You must not have gotten laid in a while. I can't help you with that but I can alleviate your frustration in other ways. First of all, college is way more than 30k. Second of all, if you had the capacity to comprehend, I've never claimed there was any such zionist conspiracy. I have no idea where you got that from. Third, I've spoken my mind here so clearly that I cannot believe you still don't get it. Maybe you're slow. Maybe you're what. But whatever the issue is, I suggest you go back and read what I've posted. Oh, and please try to stay on topic.

No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

Hmm.. To me it sounds like a conspiracy when the leader of the last remaining superpower has so much force as to bribe a country like Israel with gifts in the form of billions of dollars in loans (read give) to set up a peace summit meant to divert attention from the ass kicking in, "Iraq, Afghanistan and the "horses" (Israel) he backed in Lebanon and Palestine that got schooled on how to fight and lead"

So in your twisted logic, Israel got schooled in Palestine because the gave up Gaza to fighters that know how to fight and lead? Even thought they could wipe out Gaza in a second if they so desired? And how did the Palestinians school the world on how to lead? By creating two separate entities in the form of warring hostilities between Hamas and Fatah? By having Hamas isolated because of their terrorist leanings while their own people starve and continue to wallow in misery? Is that your definition of "schooling"? Were the Lebanese schooling the Israelis while their infrastructure was getting destroyed? The terrorist heroes you support only cause more pain by continuing to preach the same savage rhetoric. You dream of a day where all Islamic countries are overthrown by the people, which as you surely know would form Islamic law, creating more suffering for everyone.

Originally posted by: Narmer

I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

I guess puppet masters that control the world have nothing to do with conspiracy. I'll call it Zionist because that is what it invariably winds up meaning when terrorist sympathizers such as yourself talk about "puppet masters".. Maybe you mean the United States, either way you are off base.

The other point to that message is how you are dying to see the middle east engulfed so that the puppet masters (arabs regimes supported by the US) are removed. I guess you have no problem paying $15 a gallon for gas and have no problem with Islamic law being introduced to the entire middle east. Your damn right the entire world would change, the middle east paradise you envision would turn in to one large parking lot.

:laugh:You are an idiot:laugh:. You're reading exactly what you want to read. You're also boring me. So, unless you have other tricks up your sleeve, I think this conspirational analysis is dead in the water.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer


You must not have gotten laid in a while. I can't help you with that but I can alleviate your frustration in other ways. First of all, college is way more than 30k. Second of all, if you had the capacity to comprehend, I've never claimed there was any such zionist conspiracy. I have no idea where you got that from. Third, I've spoken my mind here so clearly that I cannot believe you still don't get it. Maybe you're slow. Maybe you're what. But whatever the issue is, I suggest you go back and read what I've posted. Oh, and please try to stay on topic.

No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

Hmm.. To me it sounds like a conspiracy when the leader of the last remaining superpower has so much force as to bribe a country like Israel with gifts in the form of billions of dollars in loans (read give) to set up a peace summit meant to divert attention from the ass kicking in, "Iraq, Afghanistan and the "horses" (Israel) he backed in Lebanon and Palestine that got schooled on how to fight and lead"

So in your twisted logic, Israel got schooled in Palestine because the gave up Gaza to fighters that know how to fight and lead? Even thought they could wipe out Gaza in a second if they so desired? And how did the Palestinians school the world on how to lead? By creating two separate entities in the form of warring hostilities between Hamas and Fatah? By having Hamas isolated because of their terrorist leanings while their own people starve and continue to wallow in misery? Is that your definition of "schooling"? Were the Lebanese schooling the Israelis while their infrastructure was getting destroyed? The terrorist heroes you support only cause more pain by continuing to preach the same savage rhetoric. You dream of a day where all Islamic countries are overthrown by the people, which as you surely know would form Islamic law, creating more suffering for everyone.

Originally posted by: Narmer

I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

I guess puppet masters that control the world have nothing to do with conspiracy. I'll call it Zionist because that is what it invariably winds up meaning when terrorist sympathizers such as yourself talk about "puppet masters".. Maybe you mean the United States, either way you are off base.

The other point to that message is how you are dying to see the middle east engulfed so that the puppet masters (arabs regimes supported by the US) are removed. I guess you have no problem paying $15 a gallon for gas and have no problem with Islamic law being introduced to the entire middle east. Your damn right the entire world would change, the middle east paradise you envision would turn in to one large parking lot.

:laugh:You are an idiot:laugh:. You're reading exactly what you want to read. You're also boring me. So, unless you have other tricks up your sleeve, I think this conspirational analysis is dead in the water.

I'm just using your words. How about disputing what I said rather than calling me an idiot????
Do you support the violent overthrow of Arab regimes, while supporting groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah? Do you think the American people deserved 9/11 because of their tacit support for American foreign policy in the Middle East? No need to go in to detail, answer yes or no

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Narmer


You must not have gotten laid in a while. I can't help you with that but I can alleviate your frustration in other ways. First of all, college is way more than 30k. Second of all, if you had the capacity to comprehend, I've never claimed there was any such zionist conspiracy. I have no idea where you got that from. Third, I've spoken my mind here so clearly that I cannot believe you still don't get it. Maybe you're slow. Maybe you're what. But whatever the issue is, I suggest you go back and read what I've posted. Oh, and please try to stay on topic.

No wonder Israel has been able to brush off their "peace plan" for so long. They were probably sent on the order of George W. Bush, who is now "committed" to a Middle East peace plan since his ass is getting kicked in Iraq, Afghanistan and the horses he backed in Lebanon and Palestine got schooled on how to fight and lead.

Hmm.. To me it sounds like a conspiracy when the leader of the last remaining superpower has so much force as to bribe a country like Israel with gifts in the form of billions of dollars in loans (read give) to set up a peace summit meant to divert attention from the ass kicking in, "Iraq, Afghanistan and the "horses" (Israel) he backed in Lebanon and Palestine that got schooled on how to fight and lead"

So in your twisted logic, Israel got schooled in Palestine because the gave up Gaza to fighters that know how to fight and lead? Even thought they could wipe out Gaza in a second if they so desired? And how did the Palestinians school the world on how to lead? By creating two separate entities in the form of warring hostilities between Hamas and Fatah? By having Hamas isolated because of their terrorist leanings while their own people starve and continue to wallow in misery? Is that your definition of "schooling"? Were the Lebanese schooling the Israelis while their infrastructure was getting destroyed? The terrorist heroes you support only cause more pain by continuing to preach the same savage rhetoric. You dream of a day where all Islamic countries are overthrown by the people, which as you surely know would form Islamic law, creating more suffering for everyone.

Originally posted by: Narmer

I don't know how strong the puppet masters have a grip on those they control, but I hope it is less than they think. With luck, the middle east can engulf itself in a fire that will take many of those masters with them. Out will come a brand new world that will be nothing of its former self.

Khalid Khashoggi, the Princeton and Harvard-educated son of Adnan Khashoggi, the arms dealer in the middle of the iran-contra scandal of the 1980s, once told me something which I will not repeat here but is similar to the farce that is on display. Either way, it is good for business. Unless you are making money off of this, you cannot be too happy about it.

I guess puppet masters that control the world have nothing to do with conspiracy. I'll call it Zionist because that is what it invariably winds up meaning when terrorist sympathizers such as yourself talk about "puppet masters".. Maybe you mean the United States, either way you are off base.

The other point to that message is how you are dying to see the middle east engulfed so that the puppet masters (arabs regimes supported by the US) are removed. I guess you have no problem paying $15 a gallon for gas and have no problem with Islamic law being introduced to the entire middle east. Your damn right the entire world would change, the middle east paradise you envision would turn in to one large parking lot.

:laugh:You are an idiot:laugh:. You're reading exactly what you want to read. You're also boring me. So, unless you have other tricks up your sleeve, I think this conspirational analysis is dead in the water.

I'm just using your words. How about disputing what I said rather than calling me an idiot????
Do you support the violent overthrow of Arab regimes, while supporting groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah? Do you think the American people deserved 9/11 because of their tacit support for American foreign policy in the Middle East? No need to go in to detail, answer yes or no

Well, when I mentioned horse, I was talking about Fatah, not Israel. From there, things took a turn for the worse in your analysis.

Your other questions have already been answered many times over.

 

[Bumrush99]

Fair enough on the "horses" discussion. At the end of the day, the international community and the Arab puppet regimes you so despise also picked the Fatah horse, and judging by the isolation Hamas is now feeling (besides the support of the rogue nation of Iran), I think the Fatah horse has clearly won- for now...

And for the record, I know where you stand on those issues. I clearly remember you stating that the victims of terrorist attacks deserved it because of their tacit support of American foreign policy. Do you still harbor those feelings?

 

[Sinsear]

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