APU faster than GPU?

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

No its not.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/3

And nobody with half a mind buys an APU for its gaming performance. They buy CPU+GPU.

I did. I built two LAN gaming boxes -- At $39, the A6 5400K is awesome for 720p gaming.... No video card needed. My primary 2 gaming PC's are much stronger obviously, but for a couple of friends over.... The APU's are freaking cheap and great setups for leftover monitors. The A6 can play Titanfall all day long at 720p at Medium detail. Granted, these builds are kinda lame -- mostly leftover hard drives, cases, PS/2 keyboards, memory, 32 bit OS discs, but they game pretty well for a 3rd and 4th string machine.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Wow, we are reduced to arguing about 3.5 year old processors?

In any case, then and now, it is more correct to say AMD APUs have the fastest *graphics* performance. They certainly dont have the fastest cpu performance, and an APU is a cpu and gpu combined. Not to mention if one really wants cpu performance, they can buy an i5 "APU" and destroy any AMD apu on the market in cpu performance.

 

[Abwx]

In any case, then and now, it is more correct to say AMD APUs have the fastest *graphics* performance. They certainly dont have the fastest cpu performance, and an APU is a cpu and gpu combined. Not to mention if one really wants cpu performance, they can buy an i5 "APU" and destroy any AMD apu on the market in cpu performance.

At wich price ?.

And it will be destroyed by any AMD APU GPU wise.

For the average user an AMD APU is a better solution, besides FB and other youtubes that do not need a potent CPU, the only other noticeable usage is gaming and in this matter the i5 is mediocre while providing no advantage for general tasks.

 

[mrmt]

In any case, then and now, it is more correct to say AMD APUs have the fastest *graphics* performance. They certainly dont have the fastest cpu performance, and an APU is a cpu and gpu combined. Not to mention if one really wants cpu performance, they can buy an i5 "APU" and destroy any AMD apu on the market in cpu performance.

AMD big core APUs are a failure. Not only AMD couldn't replace sales of its processors in 1:1 ratio with APUs, they also lost market share to Intel and have worse financials than before APU entered the market. As much as someone might cherrypick benchmarks all day to justify the product, the verdict of the markets is unquestionable.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I think the most important question regarding HBM is costs. Given that AMD products are mostly confined to the low cost market, will HBM be able to reach the low costs necessary to compete against dGPU solutions?

I agree on this one.

 

[nenforcer]

I built an AMD A10-7850K FM2+ APU as my new HTPC earlier this year to replace my old Atom 330 w/ nVidia ION integrated graphics.

I couldn't be happer since Mantle games including Battlefield 4 run accepptably but I was a little disappointed with Tomb Raider w/ TressFX performance but this game is know to be CPU bottlenecked or a memory bandwith hog. It still runs but at reduced detail levels.

Once the hardware / software ecosystem for APU's is solidified (HSA 1.0 / hUMA) and perhaps with DDR4 you will really see them start to take off. Unfortunately that make take until 2016 but I still believe we will see Carrizo on FM2+ with DDR3 support next year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6zX2IqBI7A