apple wants samsung to pay 40 per phone

[momeNt]

You guys do realize that without patent law protecting innovation that no innovation would ever happen right?

Businesses would all wait for someone else to invent something and copy off them, leaving everybody waiting, and nobody inventing.

If Apple doesn't win, they likely will fail as a business because they never were able to realize the full extent of their profits from having their ideas protected. This case could very well be the death of technological innovation if Apple doesn't win.

 

[poofyhairguy]

You guys do realize that without patent law protecting innovation that no innovation would ever happen right?

Businesses would all wait for someone else to invent something and copy off them, leaving everybody waiting, and nobody inventing.

If Apple doesn't win, they likely will fail as a business because they never were able to realize the full extent of their profits from having their ideas protected. This case could very well be the death of technological innovation if Apple doesn't win.

Talk about dramatic.

First of all, the industry's "faith" in patent law is not hinging on this case. Apple itself is not tying its own innovation to this case. If Apple wins or loses it the effects will all be tied to Samsung's bottom line.

Secondly, I think many understand that Apple deserves to be rewarded for their contributions but within the standards of the industry. If Apple feels the innovation is worth so much per phone to a HTC, it should be worth the same per phone to Samsung. The patent and licensing system is in place to prevent blatant copying, not to pick and chose what competitors you have in your market.

Finally, patents and copyright exist to help society by protecting innovation. But if what you invent changes the way our entire way of life, it hurts society if one company or person can have exclusive rights to that innovation. Just like car safety features weren't allowed to be locked to one maker, this judge is not allowing only Apple to sell modern smartphones. So in a way, Apple already lost what they were really going for.

 

[norseamd]

You guys do realize that without patent law protecting innovation that no innovation would ever happen right? Businesses would all wait for someone else to invent something and copy off them, leaving everybody waiting, and nobody inventing. If Apple doesn't win, they likely will fail as a business because they never were able to realize the full extent of their profits from having their ideas protected. This case could very well be the death of technological innovation if Apple doesn't win.

you realize there are other people who will invent right? like universities and scientists. also not only would the government put some money towards inventions but also the companies themselves could make a industry association that all of them could contribute to for research

 

[cheezy321]

You guys do realize that without patent law protecting innovation that no innovation would ever happen right?

Businesses would all wait for someone else to invent something and copy off them, leaving everybody waiting, and nobody inventing.

If Apple doesn't win, they likely will fail as a business because they never were able to realize the full extent of their profits from having their ideas protected. This case could very well be the death of technological innovation if Apple doesn't win.

That's a whole lot of hyperbole.

Samsung blatantly copied Apple and should be punished for it. To the maximum extent of the law. Beyond that I don't see many implications beyond the major nerd rage across the internet.

 

[BoberFett]

I think they take their time to make sure the changes aren't a failure. That's the main reason I stick with Apple; my phone always works.

As long as you are in fact trying to drive to the library located somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, then yes I'd say that's true...

 

[Jodell88]

That's a whole lot of hyperbole.

Samsung blatantly copied Apple and should be punished for it. To the maximum extent of the law.

What Samsung did happens in every market. Business 101.

 

[Jodell88]

Responding with "LOL" immediately removes your credibility. I had an iPhone 4 and it was perfectly fine. If you're trying to get me to say I think iPhones don't have flaws, I'm not going to say that, but I said my phone always works and that's true. Compared to all of the Android phones I've had, which is many, iPhones have consistently had superior uptime. Maybe you don't care because your biggest concern is flappy bird, but I'm running a business and I can't deal with the phone app crashing or helicopter bugs. My iPhones have always performed at or above my expectations and my Android phones have always done the opposite. I don't care about the number of megapixels or if I can get a widget of Jlaw masturbating on my home screen. I care about uptime, efficiency, and ease of use. That's who Apple is selling to and that's predominantly the group who buys their products, at least for business. Most of my clients can iMessage regardless of which industry they're in. It's a different story for kids and teenagers, but they still have a compelling product in that space as well. Regardless, you're being extremely dramatic for no reason.

Wasn't iOS 7 so crash happy that Apple acknowledged the problem?

 

[norseamd]

realizing apple was first to market which was maturing anyways

smartphones were not only previously invented but were going to come sometime anyways considering that feature cellphones were already being used.

remembering that apple fans were the first to have renovated smartphones.

they must hate that other people also have smartphones

 

[dbk]

WRONG FORUM!!!! /naytofanbois

 

[Oyeve]

Wasn't iOS 7 so crash happy that Apple acknowledged the problem?

I thought they claimed it as a feature. Like the purple haze on the sapphire lens.

 

[Sonikku]

One day we'll be bouncing our great grand kids on our knee telling them "Back in my day competitors would compete to determine a winner."

 

[Oyeve]

Double post.

 

[JackBurton]

What Samsung did happens in every market. Business 101.

Yeah, and they get sued for it. When Samsung wasn't ripping Apple off in the phone/tablet space, they were doing it in the TV market. That's why they were forced to pull their LCD set from the market because they infringed (stole) someone else's tech. Samesung's philosophy was known to be, rip off your competitors and pay the fines later.

Nerds really aren't aware of Samesung's history because of their blind hatred for Apple, or they're just in plain denial. I mean I don't know how much more obvious it could be.

 

[norseamd]

Yeah, and they get sued for it. When Samsung wasn't ripping Apple off in the phone/tablet space, they were doing it in the TV market. That's why they were forced to pull their LCD set from the market because they infringed (stole) someone else's tech. Samesung's philosophy was known to be, rip off your competitors and pay the fines later. Nerds really aren't aware of Samesung's history because of their blind hatred for Apple, or they're just in plain denial. I mean I don't know how much more obvious it could be.

then you realize that apple must be pretty bad when people support any other company over apple. probably because of lawsuits and more lawsuits

 

[JackBurton]

realizing apple was first to market which was maturing anyways

smartphones were not only previously invented but were going to come sometime anyways considering that feature cellphones were already being used.

remembering that apple fans were the first to have renovated smartphones.

they must hate that other people also have smartphones

You mean like the tablet market was going to explode "eventually" if Apple didn't come out with the iPad? Bullsh!t! Tablets were dead with NO sign of revival before Apple showed the world how to do a tablet right. On the phone front, the trend in the personal phone market was smaller phones with better built in cameras. That's about it. No signs of any dramatic change in that direction. Smart phones were basically targeted toward business with VERY little to no interest in the consumer space. Even in the business space, smart phones SUCKED. BB was the dominant force with really no competition and definitely no indication of a change in direction. And then Apple came along with their FIRST attempt at a phone, and the rest was history. Apple completely redefined the phone market and blew it up SINGLE HANDEDLY ON THEIR FIRST ATTEMPT. Since then, Apple continually raised the bar for what to expect from a phone and established themselves as THE leader in the mobile phone space. And to this day, all other competitors continue to follow Apple's lead, evident by Samsung's NEW home button finger print reader. Yeah, I'm sure SOMEONE would of "eventually" come up with that before Apple, AGAIN.

 

[JackBurton]

then you realize that apple must be pretty bad when people support any other company over apple. probably because of lawsuits and more lawsuits

??? So if I steal from you, and you press charges, are you the bad guy? What if that person kept stealing from you and you kept filing charges? Would you be even a worse person? I'm trying to follow your logic. So far I'm not finding it.

 

[norseamd]

go troll somewhere else

 

[SolMiester]

another proof of how corrupt the US Patent system is

Seriously, thats like putting a patent on the wheel FFS.....IMO

 

[JackBurton]

go troll somewhere else

Haha, are you serious with that response? I think I heard your brain seize after trying to answer my question.

 

[norseamd]

cellphones already had internet.

sometime it was going to get better anyways.

they at most sped up the evolution of smartphones.

 

[norseamd]

Smart phones were basically targeted toward business with VERY little to no interest in the consumer space. Even in the business space, smart phones SUCKED. BB was the dominant force with really no competition and definitely no indication of a change in direction.

like you said smartphones were already invented. apple does not own a petent on the idea of a smartphone.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

And Xerox should sue every major electronics and software maker as they pretty much invented most of everything, and had the patents to all this, long before most of these companies were around. But they don't.

Instead we get douchie companies battling each other out of stupid shit.

I've been to PARC (I work for Xerox). It is incredible the technology that came out of there and that Xerox basically gave it away.

 

[norseamd]

I've been to PARC (I work for Xerox). It is incredible the technology that came out of there and that Xerox basically gave it away.

we should thank them for being such a good company

and now they are inventing printable electronics

 

[JackBurton]

like you said smartphones were already invented. apple does not own a petent on the idea of a smartphone.

Why don't you go ahead and address the last scenario I gave before we move on. You don't get to dodge a question and then introduce another line of questioning.

 

[Rakehellion]

Fail. Other phones had it years before apple.

And no one's had it since.