that is rather interesting that windows will run on the mac but mac os won't run on a pc. this suggests that either the intel macs will be using bios or they'll be using some other firmware that can load other operating systems but has does something special for mac os. i don't think openfirmware will be in the intel macs, but more likely efi.
that is rather interesting that windows will run on the mac but mac os won't run on a pc. this suggests that either the intel macs will be using bios or they'll be using some other firmware that can load other operating systems but has does something special for mac os. i don't think openfirmware will be in the intel macs, but more likely efi.
Microsoft bought $150 Millions of Apple shares without voting rights back in 1997, but they selled them in the meantime.
you really don't know much do you.
Apple will be able to run OSX and apple won't stop mac users from installing Windows, but Macs will be the only systems to run OSX, I'm pretty sure SJ will make sure of it.
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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
GL with that one
I don't see why not the dev boxes they are shipping seem to be nothing more than an intel OEM motherboard with standard off the shelf components put into a g5 case
Not to mention that ANYONE willing to pay $1,500(1k for box and $500 for adc select membership) can get a dev box.
My friend's company has a Premier membership and he said he might buy one.
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keynote video link if not already posted http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=27&threadid=1609696&enterthread=y
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Originally posted by: ironcrotch
you really don't know much do you.
He's actually pretty close.
Now that the MacOS will run an x86 binary, it's only a small hack-job away from running on a normal PC.
I'm sure Apple will take measures to prevent it, but that's only a minor hurdle. Look how hackproof all the copy protection and encryption is. It will be hacked in the first couple of weeks I bet.
Mindless drivel.
Cliffsnotes: Emotional moaning, no reason behind it. Typical geeky loser Mac user.
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Xlr8yourmac.com provides some detailed comments from one of the developers at WWDC describing the current development Intel-Mac which currently features a 3.6GHz Pentium 4.
Minor highlights:
- "the thing is fast". All iLife apps are already universal binaries
- Pentium 4 660 at 3.6GHz, but will not be used in the shipping product (of course, since the high end Intel-Mac is 2 years away)
- DDR-2 RAM at 533. SATA-2.
- Presently uses the Intel GMA 900 integrated graphics chip set which supports Quartz Extreme.
- Regular video cards will be supported, but need drivers
- No Open Firmware. Uses Phoenix BIOS.
Major highlights:
- "They run Windows fine. All the chipset is standard Intel stuff, so you can download drivers and run XP - on the box."
- Game devs optimistic. "They look forward to the day they don't have to support PPC."
- Cell and AMD were evaluated. Cell not intended for PCs; AMD with supply constraints.
Photos of the Intel PowerMac at WWDC.
Note: It is impossible to tell if final shipping Intel Macs will share features common with this development Mac.... there has been suggestions that the final Intel-Macs will not simply be PC Bios/Motherboards. We'll have to wait and see...
Mac News
News.com confirms that Transitive Technologies is, in fact, the technology behind Apple's Rosetta PowerPC Emulator for their upcoming Intel-based Macintoshes.
Jobs reportedly confirmed Transitive's role in a New York Times interview, but in general, Apple has been very quiet about their Transitive's role in Rosetta. Of note, Jobs' keynote speech on Monday gave no mention to the startup.
It appears Transitive's technology can provide 60-80 percent performance of native software based on real world experience with SGI. Some analysts, however, have doubts about the performance promises.
First mention of Transitive came in July 2003. The most accurate and earliest rumor about Transitive's use by Apple came as a Page 2 news item in February 2005:
...there is evidence that Apple has had special internal seeds of Tiger which support [Transitive's technology] for the x86 platform. Beyond allowing Tiger to run on x86, perhaps more significantly is the potential to also allow existing Mac OS X applications to be run on the x86 (PC) platform without recompilation.
Apple, of course, is not offering Mac OS X for the PC, but instead offering Intel-based Macs.
Ripped from Macrumors.com
Minor highlights:
- "the thing is fast". All iLife apps are already universal binaries
- Pentium 4 660 at 3.6GHz, but will not be used in the shipping product (of course, since the high end Intel-Mac is 2 years away)
- DDR-2 RAM at 533. SATA-2.
- Presently uses the Intel GMA 900 integrated graphics chip set which supports Quartz Extreme.
- Regular video cards will be supported, but need drivers
- No Open Firmware. Uses Phoenix BIOS.
Major highlights:
- "They run Windows fine. All the chipset is standard Intel stuff, so you can download drivers and run XP - on the box."
- Game devs optimistic. "They look forward to the day they don't have to support PPC."
- Cell and AMD were evaluated. Cell not intended for PCs; AMD with supply constraints.
Photos of the Intel PowerMac at WWDC.
Note: It is impossible to tell if final shipping Intel Macs will share features common with this development Mac.... there has been suggestions that the final Intel-Macs will not simply be PC Bios/Motherboards. We'll have to wait and see...
Mac News
News.com confirms that Transitive Technologies is, in fact, the technology behind Apple's Rosetta PowerPC Emulator for their upcoming Intel-based Macintoshes.
Jobs reportedly confirmed Transitive's role in a New York Times interview, but in general, Apple has been very quiet about their Transitive's role in Rosetta. Of note, Jobs' keynote speech on Monday gave no mention to the startup.
It appears Transitive's technology can provide 60-80 percent performance of native software based on real world experience with SGI. Some analysts, however, have doubts about the performance promises.
First mention of Transitive came in July 2003. The most accurate and earliest rumor about Transitive's use by Apple came as a Page 2 news item in February 2005:
...there is evidence that Apple has had special internal seeds of Tiger which support [Transitive's technology] for the x86 platform. Beyond allowing Tiger to run on x86, perhaps more significantly is the potential to also allow existing Mac OS X applications to be run on the x86 (PC) platform without recompilation.
Apple, of course, is not offering Mac OS X for the PC, but instead offering Intel-based Macs.
Ripped from Macrumors.com
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