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TuxDave

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Intel beat expectations but since the numbers were lower than last year (which everyone knew because of the expectations it put out) it went down. I hate stocks. I feel like it's more of a fear factor game.
 
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Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Despite VIsta and what hte moron Cramer says ..... tech is not a good invesmtent this year.

Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap: Tech, Take a Walk

:D


I want to take a red hot sword and drive it through that mother F'ers eye ball and into his brain. Twist twice (not thrice), then use a sledge hammer to have it exit the back of his skull.

THat SOB can not make up his god damned mind. This was about a week ago that he was blathering about Vista driving tech stocks to the moon.

He is a detriment to the average investor. He is akin to watching people on Jerry Springer for stock ideas.

I only watch him when flipping channels and it usually takes 1-2 minutes before my brain flips inside out.

DIE CRAMER DIE!
 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Despite VIsta and what hte moron Cramer says ..... tech is not a good invesmtent this year.

Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap: Tech, Take a Walk

:D


I want to take a red hot sword and drive it through that mother F'ers eye ball and into his brain. Twist twice (not thrice), then use a sledge hammer to have it exit the back of his skull.

THat SOB can not make up his god damned mind. This was about a week ago that he was blathering about Vista driving tech stocks to the moon.

He is a detriment to the average investor. He is akin to watching people on Jerry Springer for stock ideas.

I only watch him when flipping channels and it usually takes 1-2 minutes before my brain flips inside out.

DIE CRAMER DIE!

I watch him and he made some decent call. I don't see why the hate. Unless you buy and sell on his recommendation and got totally ripped up...then I understand...

But whoever buy and sell stocks base solely on tips are idiots.
 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Despite VIsta and what hte moron Cramer says ..... tech is not a good invesmtent this year.

Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap: Tech, Take a Walk

:D


I want to take a red hot sword and drive it through that mother F'ers eye ball and into his brain. Twist twice (not thrice), then use a sledge hammer to have it exit the back of his skull.

THat SOB can not make up his god damned mind. This was about a week ago that he was blathering about Vista driving tech stocks to the moon.

He is a detriment to the average investor. He is akin to watching people on Jerry Springer for stock ideas.

I only watch him when flipping channels and it usually takes 1-2 minutes before my brain flips inside out.

DIE CRAMER DIE!
I watch him and he made some decent call. I don't see why the hate. Unless you buy and sell on his recommendation and got totally ripped up...then I understand...

But whoever buy and sell stocks base solely on tips are idiots.
And how many bad calls has he made?
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Despite VIsta and what hte moron Cramer says ..... tech is not a good invesmtent this year.

Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap: Tech, Take a Walk

:D


I want to take a red hot sword and drive it through that mother F'ers eye ball and into his brain. Twist twice (not thrice), then use a sledge hammer to have it exit the back of his skull.

THat SOB can not make up his god damned mind. This was about a week ago that he was blathering about Vista driving tech stocks to the moon.

He is a detriment to the average investor. He is akin to watching people on Jerry Springer for stock ideas.

I only watch him when flipping channels and it usually takes 1-2 minutes before my brain flips inside out.

DIE CRAMER DIE!

I watch him and he made some decent call. I don't see why the hate. Unless you buy and sell on his recommendation and got totally ripped up...then I understand...

But whoever buy and sell stocks base solely on tips are idiots.

I gues it is the fact that Iam a value/income oiented investor.

It just makes me upset that the people that listen to him probably arn't the brightest and are hoping to turn $5K into $5M in 10 years. People are that dumb. Thus the disservice to the community.

I hate the guy. He shouldn't be on TV. He is a moron.

EDIT:
And smart people too!!! A guy at work who is very bright (engineer mind you) doesn't understand that Nerdelli of Home Depot did a VERY GOOD job in his 5 years at Home Depot. Why doesn't Cramer tach valuation? Nerdelli build shareholder value, it's jsut that HD with a PE of 35 in 2001 didn't go up in share price ,thus all the outrage. How many people actually thin ka stock like HD should trade with a PE of35??????? Why don't people know better? Maybe because fools like Cramer are on TV for 30 minutes a day poisoning the brains of hte average person.
 

manly

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Jan 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: LordSegan
Why did it go down when it posted record profits?
I'm pretty sure they reported after the market closed.

Already headed up in after hours trading, so there will be a spike tomorrow morning.

Edit:
Actually a dip from modest guidance.
 

tuteja1986

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Jun 1, 2005
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iphone with 50% profit margin will make sure apple stock would go even higher. This product will sell like ipod and their nothing many company can do to stop it. Apple has good marketing and hardcore fanatical follower just like Hitler did. I think LG , Nokia and Sony really need to design and manfuacture a phone like the iphone and flood it in ever country that they can. Also launch adds like Apple do making it look like cool or what ever the people think after watching apple adds.
 

tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sh!t, I just gambled and lost today... :(

Sell it at next Mac world buddy :)... new ipod or something crazy that is sure to boost the apple share up. If you look at the market trend for apple than you would see the share goes always up when apple host its mac world.
 

DaveSimmons

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This is why I stick with stock index mutual funds. Buy, hold forever, zero effort.

Some of you do better (short term anyway) picking individual stocks, while others gamble and lose.

Plus you work much harder at tax time, unless your brokerage is set to figure the gains and losses from all of your trades for you (including trading costs).
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sh!t, I just gambled and lost today... :(

Sell it at next Mac world buddy :)... new ipod or something crazy that is sure to boost the apple share up. If you look at the market trend for apple than you would see the share goes always up when apple host its mac world.
QFT....this often happens when companies throw a few million into marketing conferences. It gives the techies reason to invest all of their money into the company when they see the new development. In truth though, you can never tell if the new developments will ever be a success.

Novell is a good example of this. In 2004 they paid Linus Torvalds as a keynote speaker at Brainshare in Salt Lake City. Within a few hours their stock shot up from $7/share to $12/share. Forget the dollar figure, look at the percentage. Of course, they've made a deal with the devil since then (microsoft) and had their whole management torn down starting with thier VP, then their CEO....so who knows where they'll be a few years from now.

Just watch out what you invest in. Apple isn't making money from computers....they haven't for a while. iPods changed the whole company and they'll continue to drop "new technologies" until they create another marketing success. I predict though that the quality of their products will continue to decline as they pay cheaper chinese companies to manufacture the crap they sell. They better do something fast because the product lifecycle on mp3 players is reaching maturity fast.

-Scar
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sh!t, I just gambled and lost today... :(

Sell it at next Mac world buddy :)... new ipod or something crazy that is sure to boost the apple share up. If you look at the market trend for apple than you would see the share goes always up when apple host its mac world.
QFT....this often happens when companies throw a few million into marketing conferences. It gives the techies reason to invest all of their money into the company when they see the new development. In truth though, you can never tell if the new developments will ever be a success.

Novell is a good example of this. In 2004 they paid Linus Torvalds as a keynote speaker at Brainshare in Salt Lake City. Within a few hours their stock shot up from $7/share to $12/share. Forget the dollar figure, look at the percentage. Of course, they've made a deal with the devil since then (microsoft) and had their whole management torn down starting with thier VP, then their CEO....so who knows where they'll be a few years from now.

Just watch out what you invest in. Apple isn't making money from computers....they haven't for a while. iPods changed the whole company and they'll continue to drop "new technologies" until they create another marketing success. I predict though that the quality of their products will continue to decline as they pay cheaper chinese companies to manufacture the crap they sell. They better do something fast because the product lifecycle on mp3 players is reaching maturity fast.

-Scar
You're insane if you think Apple doesn't make money from selling computers. They probably have the best gross margins in the computer industry (not including servers, that is).
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sh!t, I just gambled and lost today... :(

Sell it at next Mac world buddy :)... new ipod or something crazy that is sure to boost the apple share up. If you look at the market trend for apple than you would see the share goes always up when apple host its mac world.

Apple is in denial. And so are you.

They are facing serious federal investigations and a lawsuit with Cisco they will lose if they go to court. One of the Apple VPs said the lawsuit was silly, however all precedant sides with Cisco and not Apple. Add into that Ciscos claim of bad faith from Apple(forming a shell company to try and purchase rights), Apple better settle, Cisco has deeper pockets and they hold all the cards. If they go to court the judgement against Apple would be huge.

Sooner or later both of these issues will catch up to the stock.
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Sh!t, I just gambled and lost today... :(

Sell it at next Mac world buddy :)... new ipod or something crazy that is sure to boost the apple share up. If you look at the market trend for apple than you would see the share goes always up when apple host its mac world.
QFT....this often happens when companies throw a few million into marketing conferences. It gives the techies reason to invest all of their money into the company when they see the new development. In truth though, you can never tell if the new developments will ever be a success.

Novell is a good example of this. In 2004 they paid Linus Torvalds as a keynote speaker at Brainshare in Salt Lake City. Within a few hours their stock shot up from $7/share to $12/share. Forget the dollar figure, look at the percentage. Of course, they've made a deal with the devil since then (microsoft) and had their whole management torn down starting with thier VP, then their CEO....so who knows where they'll be a few years from now.

Just watch out what you invest in. Apple isn't making money from computers....they haven't for a while. iPods changed the whole company and they'll continue to drop "new technologies" until they create another marketing success. I predict though that the quality of their products will continue to decline as they pay cheaper chinese companies to manufacture the crap they sell. They better do something fast because the product lifecycle on mp3 players is reaching maturity fast.

-Scar
You're insane if you think Apple doesn't make money from selling computers. They probably have the best gross margins in the computer industry (not including servers, that is).

Apple is making profits of their laptops. They really dont make much of a profit off of their desktops anymore.
 

herkulease

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Apple is in denial. And so are you.

They are facing serious federal investigations and a lawsuit with Cisco they will lose if they go to court. One of the Apple VPs said the lawsuit was silly, however all precedant sides with Cisco and not Apple. Add into that Ciscos claim of bad faith from Apple(forming a shell company to try and purchase rights), Apple better settle, Cisco has deeper pockets and they hold all the cards. If they go to court the judgement against Apple would be huge.

Sooner or later both of these issues will catch up to the stock.

I tend to agree with you, the stock options thing maybe be there big downfall. I don't think telling investors that there own investigation was done with and there was no wrong doing is comforting at all when the government decides to take a look. Apple's comeback if you will started with Steve Jobs returns, if the feds investigation leads to Jobs being forced out there could be trouble ahead for them.

Plus if Steve Jobs and apple gets busted maybe it'll put more fear into other companies from pull this back dating of options scam.
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
This is why I stick with stock index mutual funds. Buy, hold forever, zero effort.

Some of you do better (short term anyway) picking individual stocks, while others gamble and lose.

Plus you work much harder at tax time, unless your brokerage is set to figure the gains and losses from all of your trades for you (including trading costs).
Maybe, but then again I made 45% over half a year on AAPL.

I don't buy a lot of stocks, but I do tend to a few from companies I follow anyway.


Originally posted by: Wreckem
Apple is making profits of their laptops. They really dont make much of a profit off of their desktops anymore.
Apple's desktop margins are amongst the best in the industry.
 

tuteja1986

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Jun 1, 2005
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Apple makes crap loads on Apple Mac Pro because most user always add more ram and Hard drive when they configure it. My buddy bought 3x Mac pro with the config listed below for his company.



* Two 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
* 8GB 667 DDR2 FB DIMM ECC - 4x2GB
* 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive - 7200 rpm
* 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive - 7200 rpm
* 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive - 7200 rpm
* 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s drive - 7200 rpm
* NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB SDRAM
* Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel) - ANZ
* 2 x SuperDrive
* Fibre Channel PCI Express Card 2GB
* Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mighty Mouse
* AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro/Power Mac (w/or w/o Display) - Auto-enroll

$21,011.00AUD (16,586.53 USD) ... Tell me if this computer is worth that much