Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks

[Koing]

All I'm waiting for is a quad core rMBP13, and a reason to actually use it. Right now my portable needs are pretty well served by my iPad mini.

quad core rMBP 13 would be great!

Koing

 

[TheStu]

not following Intel's roadmap closely, is that more likely to be 2015 or 2016 timeframe?

I have the original C2D MBP and I'm way overdue for an upgrade. I resisted Lion because it seemed like a weak upgrade, but installed it last fall. Unfortunately my system won't go any higher than Lion.

Probably something around there, yea.

 

[Kougar]

Given that Snow Leopard is four versions old I don't have a problem with their choice.

Admittedly this is a double standard, but this is always how Apple has done it. If you plan to play in the Apple ecosystem, then you need to keep up. This is something everyone should be made aware of before buying a Mac.

Now if Microsoft did this, I'd raise holy hell. But that's Windows; Microsoft has promoted it as a "long term stable" type OS for some time now.

Yeah, but Microsoft doesn't give OS upgrades away for free either, while Apple actually made it their current policy.

 

[Eug]

Dual-core MBP is fine for me but I want an Air form factor in the 12-13" size and a proper "pro" quality screen.

Given that Snow Leopard is four versions old I don't have a problem with their choice.

Lion is like Snow Leopard SP3.

 

[Tegeril]

Dual-core MBP is fine for me but I want an Air form factor in the 12-13" size and a proper "pro" quality screen.



Lion is like Snow Leopard SP3.

Lion brought:

Mission Control
Automatic versioning of files
Session restoration of applications
AirDrop
Filevault full disk encryption
Improvements to Spotlight
Twitter integration
Multitouch Gestures in Safari
Preview gained the ability to capture signatures from the trackpad
The ability for one system to have multiple active sessions (screen sharing could connect to a secondary user on the system and use it without interrupting the primary user at the machine)
Local Time Machine snapshots for when you are away from your backup volume for extended time periods so you still get the versioning benefits of TM

And that's just the most visible positives.

...feels like more than SP3.

 

[Eug]

Well, many of those are almost under the hood type features, and plus for me, I don't use them anyway, aside from the improved Spotlight I suppose. As for Mission Control, it is just another name for an updated Expose.

 

[lamedude]

Losing a few gems. Battle.net makes it easy to the PC version of Bliz games at least.

 

[Rakehellion]

All I'm waiting for is a quad core rMBP13, and a reason to actually use it. Right now my portable needs are pretty well served by my iPad mini.

There has never been a quad core 13" MacBook and most likely never will be.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

There has never been a quad core 13" MacBook and most likely never will be.

I doubt that. It'll happen if either Intel stops selling Dual Cores (which it probably will some day), or if Apple switches to ARM (hey, it could happen!). Most of the higher-end phablets are on quad-cores iirc.

Now, how awesome or subpar those individual cores are would remain to be seen. Wouldn't be the first time Apple replaced a product with something slower though. *scowl*

 

[ViRGE]

There has never been a quad core 13" MacBook and most likely never will be.

I wouldn't say never. But it will require Intel to get a quad core down to the low TDP that the 13" model requires. The current model uses 27W processors.

 

[TheStu]

I wouldn't say never. But it will require Intel to get a quad core down to the low TDP that the 13" model requires. The current model uses 27W processors.

Or Apple would need to approach the cooling situation in the system differently. But i'm not holding my breath on that one.

 

[manly]

Well, many of those are almost under the hood type features, and plus for me, I don't use them anyway, aside from the improved Spotlight I suppose. As for Mission Control, it is just another name for an updated Expose.

Lion has worked better than than I feared (performance-wise), but I don't care for nor use most of those new features listed by Tegeril. Apple had to fix a few of them in Mountain Lion anyway. To borrow a term from Intel's "tick-tock", it seems like the tock release of OS X has worked far better in recent years.

Learned from Ars that there's a tool to install Mountain Lion on unsupported Macs:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1325709

Might be useful when Apple silently stops supporting Lion (later this year? ).

And another: http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47

 

[TheStu]

Lion has worked better than than I feared (performance-wise), but I don't care for nor use most of those new features listed by Tegeril. Apple had to fix a few of them in Mountain Lion anyway. To borrow a term from Intel's "tick-tock", it seems like the tock release of OS X has worked far better in recent years.

Learned from Ars that there's a tool to install Mountain Lion on unsupported Macs:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1325709

Might be useful when Apple silently stops supporting Lion (later this year? ).

And another: http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47

That's not something you hear every day:

"So, how's it working out for you?"
-"Ugh, great, everything's working really well, I hate it."

 

[Eug]

Lion has worked better than than I feared (performance-wise), but I don't care for nor use most of those new features listed by Tegeril. Apple had to fix a few of them in Mountain Lion anyway. To borrow a term from Intel's "tick-tock", it seems like the tock release of OS X has worked far better in recent years.

Learned from Ars that there's a tool to install Mountain Lion on unsupported Macs:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1325709

Might be useful when Apple silently stops supporting Lion (later this year? ).

And another: http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47

Hmm... My MacBook 2008 2.4 GHz (4,1) is supported by that, but it seems way more complicated than the 10.5 hack for unsupported G4s, and and the 10.5 hack already had problems.

I think I'll stick with Lion 10.7.

That said, the only reason I'm not running 10.5 on some of those G4s is because of the overhead. 10.5 is significantly more memory intensive than 10.4. If you have 2 GB RAM in an unsupported G4, and a desktop hard drive, then 10.5 runs fine. However, if you only have 1.25 GB, and a laptop hard drive, then not so much after you get a few apps loaded.