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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
That's enough out of you Dell monkey. Answer your phone, my Dell is busted and I can't download my porn! And I better not hear an accent!
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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
That's enough out of you Dell monkey. Answer your phone, my Dell is busted and I can't download my porn! And I better not hear an accent!
Originally posted by: Braznor
You, on the other hand, gloated over Apple firing Indian employees.
Originally posted by: DurocShark
DMC: I disagree with any legislation that would prevent outsourcing jobs. I think the market is showing that consumers DON'T like the concept. Businesses are realizing that on their own, slowly but surely.
However, I do believe that if a software product is coded in India, it should be subject to the same tariffs that a manufactured product would be subject to. Assuming there are any. A product is a product is a product. It might make better business sense to keep as much in the USA as possible while still letting companies outsource if it makes good sense.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
So you like paying for India Compnaies masquarading as an American Company?
You're paying for Indian kids schooling as well as American kids schooling.
You're essentially paying for the demise of America for the sake of the bottom line for a few Corporate Thugs at the top. Congrats.
Failed reading, huh?Originally posted by: Braznor
want more taxes and barriers, ha ha ha. Same as legislation.
You do realize that low or no tariffs are essential to "free trade" and globalization, yes?Originally posted by: DurocShark
DMC: I disagree with any legislation that would prevent outsourcing jobs. I think the market is showing that consumers DON'T like the concept. Businesses are realizing that on their own, slowly but surely.
However, I do believe that if a software product is coded in India, it should be subject to the same tariffs that a manufactured product would be subject to. Assuming there are any. A product is a product is a product. It might make better business sense to keep as much in the USA as possible while still letting companies outsource if it makes good sense.
Originally posted by: jagec
You do realize that low or no tariffs are essential to "free trade" and globalization, yes?Originally posted by: DurocShark
DMC: I disagree with any legislation that would prevent outsourcing jobs. I think the market is showing that consumers DON'T like the concept. Businesses are realizing that on their own, slowly but surely.
However, I do believe that if a software product is coded in India, it should be subject to the same tariffs that a manufactured product would be subject to. Assuming there are any. A product is a product is a product. It might make better business sense to keep as much in the USA as possible while still letting companies outsource if it makes good sense.
Myself, I dislike globalization...it's good for grunt workers in the 3rd world, and corporate execs in the first, and bad for everyone else.
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: raildogg
How is this helping anybody? Don't you understand that companies go to places not because they like those places, but because they can save a bit of money? If Apple is doing this for a symbolic reason, then too bad for them. It won't win them any more fans.
Yeah, that is a great strategy. Save some money and lose customers because of it. Dell USED to be renowned for their support. I'd now rank them close to the bottom. When I call my bank (BoA), it is EXTREMELY refreshing to hear someone from the US on the phone. That's a BIG plus I give to the bank. I commend Apple for pulling out and hope the rest of the companies do the same.
Originally posted by: jagec
Myself, I dislike globalization...it's good for grunt workers in the 3rd world, and corporate execs in the first, and bad for everyone else.
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Of course you did and then you accused me of imposing personal viewpoints over your einstein thread. And you are nobody to judge quality.
If you think the outsourcing trend is going to stop, then you are more deluded than I can give you credit for.
Originally posted by: Jassi
BoA is outsourcing a lot of their techie (I believe) jobs to India as well and is expecting the current employees to train their replacements.
Awesome job guys :thumbsup:Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Braznor
You, on the other hand, gloated over Apple firing Indian employees.
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Oh, and another company has started using Indian factories: Bosch.
Get a German made Bosch spark plug and an Indian made one. The Indian one has burrs and uneven turns on the threads. Can you say "destroyed head"? I knew you could. I took my Bosch plugs back and got some NGKs.
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Of course you did and then you accused me of imposing personal viewpoints over your einstein thread. And you are nobody to judge quality.
If you think the outsourcing trend is going to stop, then you are more deluded than I can give you credit for.
:laugh:
I need say nothing else. You make yourself look more and more of an arse with every post.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awesome job guys :thumbsup:
Now that many Americans are waking up and forcing Companies to wake up hopefully the America Haters will leave this Country they hate so much.
But we're American Morans :thumbsup:Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Of course you did and then you accused me of imposing personal viewpoints over your einstein thread. And you are nobody to judge quality.
If you think the outsourcing trend is going to stop, then you are more deluded than I can give you credit for.
:laugh:
I need say nothing else. You make yourself look more and more of an arse with every post.
You looked like a moron ever since you created this thread.
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awesome job guys :thumbsup:
Now that many Americans are waking up and forcing Companies to wake up hopefully the America Haters will leave this Country they hate so much.
This post does not have a comment as a testimony to Dave's ignorance.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
But we're American Morans :thumbsup:Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Why, yes. Yes I did! And dam proud to do so!
I, as an AMERICAN, prefer to keep jobs HERE.
That said, when there is a signifigant improvement in quality, I have no problem giving work to other countries. I generally like European cars better than American ones. Etc. But working for a company that outsources the bulk of its IT development, I know just what kinds of quality we get out of Bangalore.
Thanks but no thanks.
Just like Japan until the late 70's, the quality just ISN'T THERE. And companies are starting to realize that.
Of course you did and then you accused me of imposing personal viewpoints over your einstein thread. And you are nobody to judge quality.
If you think the outsourcing trend is going to stop, then you are more deluded than I can give you credit for.
:laugh:
I need say nothing else. You make yourself look more and more of an arse with every post.
You looked like a moron ever since you created this thread.
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awesome job guys :thumbsup:
Now that many Americans are waking up and forcing Companies to wake up hopefully the America Haters will leave this Country they hate so much.
This post does not have a comment as a testimony to Dave's ignorance.
Dude, you are just trying to p!ss people off, aren't you? Why? Does it get you off? It doesn't make sense. You were arguing a position for a while, but now you're just trying to be a jerk.
Originally posted by: Eeezee
I hate outsourced tech support and the like. Seriously, in my experience the people on the phone are nowhere near qualified to be doing tech support. I called Motorola a few times and never found a guy that could help me troubleshoot a modem I had, one guy even transferred me to a billing representative Eventually I just did it myself using internet forums
I appreciate American companies hiring Americans. If the people in India want to move here and become Americans, then so be it. They've worked hard enough to learn English and at least some of them learn the technical skill required (my experience may have been a fluke), so it would be cool if they could move here and earn the same as an American, so long as they meet qualifications.
Originally posted by: Braznor
Originally posted by: Eeezee
I hate outsourced tech support and the like. Seriously, in my experience the people on the phone are nowhere near qualified to be doing tech support. I called Motorola a few times and never found a guy that could help me troubleshoot a modem I had, one guy even transferred me to a billing representative Eventually I just did it myself using internet forums
I appreciate American companies hiring Americans. If the people in India want to move here and become Americans, then so be it. They've worked hard enough to learn English and at least some of them learn the technical skill required (my experience may have been a fluke), so it would be cool if they could move here and earn the same as an American, so long as they meet qualifications.
My view is that outsourcing as a phenomenon will not have any great impact upon global business. The current fear over outsourcing is as paranoid as when Americans accused the Japanese car companies of destroying their car industry.