Apple patent sends password secrets to adapters

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(PhysOrg.com) -- First-time computer users in the early days, pre-hacking security traumas, were confronted with a new life requirement: creating and remembering system passwords. Not too easy, users were warned, to protect their privacy against snooping brothers and sisters, but not too tough, so they can easily remember it all times. This is no longer good advice, and Apple has filed a patent that says, no, make your password as tough as you want.

The patent filed by Apple seeks to help users recover their password information with use of a charger peripheral that doubles as the user’s security key for password recovery.
Apple says in the patent application, dated July 2010 and made public this month, that too often users choose to make their passwords simple, which just makes the work of thieves all that easier. Instead, Apple is suggesting that a user’s MacBook or smartphone or any iOS device password recovery information could be stored inside its charging adapter.
The idea is to shift the security information to the adapter, in the event that the user’s laptop or smartphone or tablet is stolen or otherwise missing. In so doing, the user can make it tough for thieves because the user can feel free to construct more complex password strings.
Once the user plugs in the peripheral, the recovery process for password retrieval and display is done.The patent application is titled, “System and Method for Storing a Password Recovery Secret,” and the inventor is named as Guy Tribble, of Hillsborough, California. Apple is proposing that a small memory module built into the unit holds the password or recovery question.
For users really concerned about security complex enough to thwart thieves skilled in working out passwords, Apple suggests the user might want to use multiple peripherals as an alternative scenario, where the adapter could hold part of the information and the other could reside elsewhere, as on some remote network server.
 

Blackjack200

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Oh shit, my charger burned out. There goes all my passwords.

I want my passwords embedded in a huge .jpeg of my naked body. Anyone that can stomach that deserves access to my email and bank accounts.

e: lol @ them actually drawing a fucking cloud in the graphic.
 

TuxDave

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I used to admire apple, but now i am kind of hating them.

So even though this patent is not a "omg this is so obvious how can they patent it" one you still find more reason to hate them. Sounds like you're just trying to find any reason to hate them, rational or not.
 

Blackjack200

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I don't think this should be patentable at all. Passwords are stored on external devices all the time, just because said 'hey, let's put it on the plug!' you should get a patent for that?

I'm not an apple hater at all btw.
 

TuxDave

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I don't think this should be patentable at all. Passwords are stored on external devices all the time, just because said 'hey, let's put it on the plug!' you should get a patent for that?

I'm not an apple hater at all btw.

Why not? First time I ever saw anyone propose to store it in a charger. And this is the first time I ever heard of anyone proposing that the computer should read data from its power plug to start a password recovery process. Good idea? Who knows. New idea? You bet!

Just like Microsoft just got awarded on a GPS feature to make it avoid unsafe neighborhoods. Kind of cool when you think about it but I guess seeing how long GPS has been around no one has bothered to think that this would be a good idea.

I just think people hold patents to such a high standard that basically nothing seems patentable to them anymore.
 

spidey07

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Oh shit, my charger burned out. There goes all my passwords.

I want my passwords embedded in a huge .jpeg of my naked body. Anyone that can stomach that deserves access to my email and bank accounts.

e: lol @ them actually drawing a fucking cloud in the graphic.

A cloud has been the symbol of choice to represent a collection of networks/circuits/routers for over 25 years. The symbol is correct and you wouldn't use anything else.
 

Tweak155

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Oh shit, my charger burned out. There goes all my passwords.

I want my passwords embedded in a huge .jpeg of my naked body. Anyone that can stomach that deserves access to my email and bank accounts.

e: lol @ them actually drawing a fucking cloud in the graphic.

LOL.
 
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This will be useful. How long after this technology is made public until we see a headline about a massive security breach because someone stole a laptop in a case that happened to have all the passwords stored on the charger which was also conveniently in the case?
 

gorcorps

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Why not? First time I ever saw anyone propose to store it in a charger. And this is the first time I ever heard of anyone proposing that the computer should read data from its power plug to start a password recovery process. Good idea? Who knows. New idea? You bet!

Just like Microsoft just got awarded on a GPS feature to make it avoid unsafe neighborhoods. Kind of cool when you think about it but I guess seeing how long GPS has been around no one has bothered to think that this would be a good idea.

I just think people hold patents to such a high standard that basically nothing seems patentable to them anymore.

I agree with you. Of all the stupidly generic patents these companies get granted these days, this one is actually fairly original.
 
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