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Apple is now...

officially larger than:

Johnson & Johnson
Procter & Gamble
Berkshire Hathaway
General Electric
IBM, as well as
British Petroleum

It's 11th largest company in the world (by market cap), right behind JP Morgan Chase (which it could overtake if it closed at $205 today).

:Q
 
Hah wow, crazy when you realize that they only have a 10% marketshare...
 
Some of you-all are more in tune with Apple internals, I heard about this on a blog and found it in the transcripts of the earnings announcement during the Q&A that followed:

Q: Toni Sacconaghi - Sanford Bernstein:

Now, is that air freight non -- I would imagine that you had that typically in most Q4s and accordingly, is that larger than usual for this quarter because your demand perception may have changed over the last 30 or 60 days or is that just a normal sequential seasonal headwind to margins that you always experience?

A: Tim Cook:

It''s more than normal. And so you''re correct that in general, we spend more in freight in Q1. However, this increase is larger than usual. And I''m sorry, I can''t be specific on the product, but it''s an abnormal sequential increase.

They're discussing air freight shipping costs being significantly higher this fiscal quarter, and Cook says there's a new product with substantial shipping costs that they're anticipating air freight expenses being significantly larger than normal, and these costs are associated with a new product.

A tablet for Christmas?

I can't imagine the new mouse will be that large a volume or expensive to air freight that it actually affects Apple's earnings during this fiscal quarter.

 
AAPL is now under $200, but is still bigger than Google.

However, I don't think AAPL is really worth that much. Some might say it's time to short AAPL, although I personally am not a shorting type of guy. Too much risk, esp. with a volatile stock like AAPL.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Some of you-all are more in tune with Apple internals, I heard about this on a blog and found it in the transcripts of the earnings announcement during the Q&A that followed:

Q: Toni Sacconaghi - Sanford Bernstein:

Now, is that air freight non -- I would imagine that you had that typically in most Q4s and accordingly, is that larger than usual for this quarter because your demand perception may have changed over the last 30 or 60 days or is that just a normal sequential seasonal headwind to margins that you always experience?

A: Tim Cook:

It''s more than normal. And so you''re correct that in general, we spend more in freight in Q1. However, this increase is larger than usual. And I''m sorry, I can''t be specific on the product, but it''s an abnormal sequential increase.

They're discussing air freight shipping costs being significantly higher this fiscal quarter, and Cook says there's a new product with substantial shipping costs that they're anticipating air freight expenses being significantly larger than normal, and these costs are associated with a new product.

A tablet for Christmas?

I can't imagine the new mouse will be that large a volume or expensive to air freight that it actually affects Apple's earnings during this fiscal quarter.
Shipping costs in general are going up. Look at the price of oil, it's almost $80 a barrel.
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
Hah wow, crazy when you realize that they only have a 10% marketshare...

All those iphone's, ipod's, and itunes adds up. Also large profits through those price premiums (ie: cpu a vs cpu b is $80 price difference but they charge $200 for the upgrade).
 
Originally posted by: KeypoX
dude that is horribly misleading. I dont think apple is even top 1000 biggest company.

How are we defining biggest/largest?
 
err meant top 100.

Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: KeypoX
dude that is horribly misleading. I dont think apple is even top 1000 biggest company.

How are we defining biggest/largest?

I would say by assets is best. Not liabilities or equity. But sales and profits is also good measure of company size.
 
$178 billion market cap, with $1.67 billion profit last quarter, during an economic downturn. I'd say that's pretty big.

Plus Apple has no debt, and a huge treasure chest of cash equivalents in the vault.
 
Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: Kaido
Hah wow, crazy when you realize that they only have a 10% marketshare...

All those iphone's, ipod's, and itunes adds up. Also large profits through those price premiums (ie: cpu a vs cpu b is $80 price difference but they charge $200 for the upgrade).

iTunes has a monopoly in MP3 download music sales in a lot of countries with large markets. Canada is one.
 
Originally posted by: Eug
$178 billion market cap, with $1.67 billion profit last quarter, during an economic downturn. I'd say that's pretty big.

Plus Apple has no debt, and a huge treasure chest of cash equivalents in the vault.

yeah they are under leveraged which has worked for them.

I dont really think market cap is that significant. Its just what the market values them out not there actual value. Also market cap is what apple owes to shareholders its not what it actually has.
 
How about significant growth compared to themselves and the rest of hte industry?
 
Originally posted by: KeypoX
err meant top 100.

Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: KeypoX
dude that is horribly misleading. I dont think apple is even top 1000 biggest company.

How are we defining biggest/largest?

I would say by assets is best. Not liabilities or equity. But sales and profits is also good measure of company size.

Assets = liabilities + equity
 
Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: Eug
$178 billion market cap, with $1.67 billion profit last quarter, during an economic downturn. I'd say that's pretty big.

Plus Apple has no debt, and a huge treasure chest of cash equivalents in the vault.

yeah they are under leveraged which has worked for them.

I dont really think market cap is that significant. Its just what the market values them out not there actual value. Also market cap is what apple owes to shareholders its not what it actually has.

Wow.
1. Market value = Actual Value.
2. Apple owes nothing to its shareholders. It is the sum of those shares.
3 Market Cap is based on Assets plus expected future earnings. Please tell me a better measure of a Companies Value.
 
Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: Eug
$178 billion market cap, with $1.67 billion profit last quarter, during an economic downturn. I'd say that's pretty big.

Plus Apple has no debt, and a huge treasure chest of cash equivalents in the vault.

yeah they are under leveraged which has worked for them.

I dont really think market cap is that significant. Its just what the market values them out not there actual value. Also market cap is what apple owes to shareholders its not what it actually has.

Yikes... lots of ignorance here.
 
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