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Apple has filed for iPen patents

hopefully they can do something better than wacom. that should would sell like hotcakes.
 
This had better be declined outright, on prior art alone. Several high profile devices in the past 8 months use styluses, not to mention the hundreds in previous years.

The S-pen on the Note lets you do some pretty slick stuff with it.
 
This had better be declined outright, on prior art alone. Several high profile devices in the past 8 months use styluses, not to mention the hundreds in previous years.

The S-pen on the Note lets you do some pretty slick stuff with it.

What prior art are you aware of for this particular implementation?
 
Anything Apple sure creates a knee-jerk reaction in you.

Its not a knee jerk reaction when I read the provided link, bump it against a few Google searches, and see that the product they're trying to patent already exists. Its a simple fact.

Lots of people in MD&G have the mentality that Apple invented technology, and brought the 'product' to market before anyone else. Therefore, everyone else copied them. Doesn't matter that they were making and selling an identical product for years before Apple made theirs. All hail the Prophet!
 
As if it took this to realize Apple has been patent trolling for years. I honestly hope they continue to get awarded patents for incredibly stupid things so that eventually we get some patent reform.
 
I guess I'm not aware of another stylus that has a camera, a pressure sensor, an accelerator, and basically a tiny computer inside the stylus that communicates wirelessly with a host device.

A digital pen comes close, but isn't exactly this.
 
I knew it wouldn't take long for some one to come in and claim that Apple invented the stylus. 🙄

Here you go though, a stylus of every size, type, model, for hundreds of devices.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sty...Q&biw=1920&bih=939&sei=Prm-T7enMczOrQeQ7M3nCQ
Apparently the S-Pen (wacom) works with magnets whereas this will work with optics.


Almost all other phone styluses are just capacitive and therefore no more accurate than your finger. The Galaxy Note's active pen uses Wacom's EMR patented technology. EMR which stands for Electo-Magnetic Resonance, which requires no internal power to generate a signal on the pen-side that enables the pen coordinates on or above the screen to be detected (the display provides the power rather than the pen). The Note's screen surface incorporates a sensor board that detects the pen's movement. Weak energy is induced in the pen's resonant circuit by a magnetic field generated by the sensor board surface. The pen's resonant circuit then makes use of this energy to return a magnetic signal to the sensor board surface. The digitizer board under the screen detects information on the pen's coordinate position and angle, as well as on its general operating condition including speed and writing pressure, etc.

With EMR Technology, the sensor unit is installed behind the display screen. Because the sensor does not cover the front of the display, the quality and brightness of the displayed image are not compromised.

Wacom's sensors are high precision and high resolution, which together make it possible to detect even small hand-written letters. The sensor traces the movement of the human hand and reproduces such "human" elements as the feel, force and ambivalence of the pen tip.

The dual capacitive multi-touch and EMR active pen technology is called Wacom Feel It and was developed and honed over 2 years on major ( HP, ...) Tablet PCs. The Galaxy Note is the first use in a smart phone.

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1. An optical stylus for use with a host device, the optical stylus comprising: a image capture device configured to obtain images of encoded, location indicative patterns; a processor coupled to the image capture device; one or more orientation determining components coupled to the processor; a pressure sensor coupled to the processor and configured to sense pressure applied to an end of the stylus; and an antenna coupled to the processor, wherein the antenna is configured to transmit data collected by the optical stylus to the host device.



So why is everyone getting mad? I'm sure wacom patented their invention, so now apple is doing the same thing.
 
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Honestly this pen seems like a cross between a wacom digitizer pen and a digital pen.

But but but... it's Apple and they're evil! Oh and they look the same as other Spens! If they look the same that has to mean they are the same. Never mind all there is of it is a paragraph and a DRAWING of what it might look like.

This thing could have a 16mp DSLR quality camera and cure cancer and haters will still say this patent request is retarded. I'll wait until some actual solid info about the product's released before I pass any sort of judgement.
 
Apparently the S-Pen (wacom) works with magnets whereas this will work with optics.
Yeah, that's where I'm getting confused about all the hate. As far as I'm aware, most stylus' do nothing. Everything is done on the device itself. This patent seems to be for a computer that works as a stylus.

And this thing may never see the light of day. Filed almost two years ago and there haven't been any big rumors about Apple releasing a device with a stylus. It would have to be released with a device because, otherwise, how would you charge the thing?
 
Yeah, that's where I'm getting confused about all the hate. As far as I'm aware, most stylus' do nothing. Everything is done on the device itself. This patent seems to be for a computer that works as a stylus.

And this thing may never see the light of day. Filed almost two years ago and there haven't been any big rumors about Apple releasing a device with a stylus. It would have to be released with a device because, otherwise, how would you charge the thing?

Does it really?

introducing in iOS 7, iPen support across bluetooth.
 
Does it really?

introducing in iOS 7, iPen support across bluetooth.

I'm just trying to think like Apple, haha. It won't take AA's. I would put money on it having a couple of contacts that connect to a charger built in to the device while it's sheathed.
 
Its not a knee jerk reaction when I read the provided link, bump it against a few Google searches, and see that the product they're trying to patent already exists. Its a simple fact.


You've made this claim twice and have yet to backup this "simple fact". Did you even bother to read the application?
 
You've made this claim twice and have yet to backup this "simple fact". Did you even bother to read the application?

Uh, yes to both. Clearly, you've got some visual impairment, but if I go any further in this thread, I'll get an infraction for anti-Apple trolling/posting truth, so I'm going to have to bow out now.
 
If this is for a device that will dethrone Wacom's stranglehold on true pressure-sensitive, accurate, no-lag pen/direct-to-screen devices that can be used for drawing/art/design at a professional level (and NO, no one else makes anything even remotely close to that except Wacom) then I for one welcome it.

If it's just another toy to doodle around on a teeny-weenie screen with to produce crap that only stays on a small screen then meh.
 
Lots of people in MD&G have the mentality that Apple invented technology, and brought the 'product' to market before anyone else. Therefore, everyone else copied them. Doesn't matter that they were making and selling an identical product for years before Apple made theirs. All hail the Prophet!

Apple doesn't invent anything. They're implementation is different.
 
Its not a knee jerk reaction when I read the provided link, bump it against a few Google searches, and see that the product they're trying to patent already exists. Its a simple fact.

Lots of people in MD&G have the mentality that Apple invented technology, and brought the 'product' to market before anyone else. Therefore, everyone else copied them. Doesn't matter that they were making and selling an identical product for years before Apple made theirs. All hail the Prophet!

I see the claim that "Apple claims they invented XYZ technology" by detractors of Apple more than by fans of Apple.

Regardless, many times others will copy Apple not in the original invention, but in the implementation. Apple's strongest point has always been as an integrator and adding an extra layer of polish that changes a product from a cool tech toy to a mass market success. Other companies will literally trip over each other to "clone" Apple's implementation.
 
Uh, yes to both. Clearly, you've got some visual impairment, but if I go any further in this thread, I'll get an infraction for anti-Apple trolling/posting truth, so I'm going to have to bow out now.

I fail to see how you've backed up your claims. If you could please point out an existing product that uses the same technology and method as Apple's device in order to accomplish the same task you might have something.

See NS1's post where other devices are apparently using magnets, where the one from Apple is using a different method. Just because two products accomplish the same task, doesn't mean that they necessarily violate each other's patents.
 
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