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Nothinman is a good example of how Macs are not for everyone, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, there are a lot of people out there for whom Macs are perfect.
 
Nothinman is a good example of how Macs are not for everyone, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, there are a lot of people out there for whom Macs are perfect.

LOL. I just noticed his name.

At first I thought you were trying to insult me.

🙂

MotionMan
 
I was a diehard PC guy for 15-20 years before I bought my first Mac about four years ago. I was looking for a replacement for my shitty old Dell laptop, and initially bought a ThinkPad T-series because by reputation it was the sturdiest laptop available. I found it ergonomically unacceptable, it had a significant built-in bug (it dropped the wireless signal anytime a sound played through the sound card, not exactly a minor problem) and Lenovo's customer service - they pride themselves on their US-based call centers - was HORRIBLE. I ended up returning it and getting a C2D white MacBook with the intention of running Win XP through Boot Camp, since it seemed to be the best-built laptop on the market for the money. It was a loyal friend for years without incident, though I never got around to installing XP because I liked OS X better. I sold it for several hundred dollars when I bought a 13" MBP in the summer of 2009.

As far as I'm concerned the unibody MBP is the best-designed laptop ever built. It's just a pleasure to use, my machine looks and feels perfect after nearly two years of use. The screen, keyboard, and touchpad are the best in the industry. I have Windows 7 Ultimate installed for those rare occasions when I need Windows support, but I use it only about once a month.

I know many Mac haters will criticize anyone who praises Apple products, but the bottom line is that they are beautifully built and a pleasure to use. I find it hard to understand how anyone could handle a MBP, MBA, iPhone 4 or iPad 2 and not be favorably impressed.
 
As far as I'm concerned the unibody MBP is the best-designed laptop ever built. It's just a pleasure to use, my machine looks and feels perfect after nearly two years of use. The screen, keyboard, and touchpad are the best in the industry. I have Windows 7 Ultimate installed for those rare occasions when I need Windows support, but I use it only about once a month.

The others are subjective but the screen isn't the best. Apple uses TN panels in all of their laptops while HP offers an IPS panel in one of their Elitebooks and Lenovo also has an IPS option for the Thinkpad X220.
 
The others are subjective but the screen isn't the best. Apple uses TN panels in all of their laptops while HP offers an IPS panel in one of their Elitebooks and Lenovo also has an IPS option for the Thinkpad X220.

I was really thinking of 13" machines, which is the form factor I prefer - the Elitebook with IPS is a 17" machine - but honestly I didn't know about the availability of IPS on the X220. For what it's worth I HATED my Thinkpad and will never buy another, but obviously your mileage may vary.

See this site's own comparo at http://www.anandtech.com/show/3889/apple-macbook-pro-13-as-windows7-laptop/3, where Apple trounced the competition in the 13" form factor in terms of its display.
 
My kid just get her Pro and was typing me to let me know that it arrived and the "Y" key came off, so even Apple hardware isn't perfect. It did snap right back on but we took it as a "sign" but not sure a sign of what.
 
My kid just get her Pro and was typing me to let me know that it arrived and the "Y" key came off, so even Apple hardware isn't perfect. It did snap right back on but we took it as a "sign" but not sure a sign of what.

She was holding it wrong.

Y-gate?

😉

MotionMan
 
My kid just get her Pro and was typing me to let me know that it arrived and the "Y" key came off, so even Apple hardware isn't perfect. It did snap right back on but we took it as a "sign" but not sure a sign of what.

Tech fails. It's the nature of the beast, be it a Apple product or a Dell. Sucks to have opened up her new toy and see it broke though, nobody would like that. Since it just happened, you should try an exchange. Most Apple stores CS is great and they would swap it for you within the return period. Just express your doubt in that particular units construction due to the keys being off.
 
Key caps are easy on, easy off - I get a macbook turned in about once a week that some student has popped off and rearranged the key caps.

It's possible to break them doing that, but 99% of the time, it's not big deal, and the local apple reseller does a lot of business with the school district, so they know to have a couple extra sets of caps on hand.

A loose Y key, in and of itself, is meaningless.
 
When I hear 13'' I immediately think "netbook".

?

I think of screensizes thusly;
7-10" (netbook)
11-12" ('ultra'portable)
13-14" (portable)
15-16" (portable enough)
17"+ (Desktop replacement)
 
i think 1920x1200 = notebook anything less is netbook 😉

where are the 2560x1600 notebooks?? retina much
 
I just attribute the key falling off to a Mac revolting at the touch of a lifetime Windows user but she was able to snap it back on and all is well.
 
When I hear 13'' I immediately think "netbook".

When I hear netbook, I think of cheap, slow a** machines made of last gen tech that can't be sold at a higher price point. Just saying. For me netbook referres to the performance capabilities, not the size.
 
My kid just get her Pro and was typing me to let me know that it arrived and the "Y" key came off, so even Apple hardware isn't perfect. It did snap right back on but we took it as a "sign" but not sure a sign of what.

the difference is Apple requires a short trip to the apple store, Dell requires a call to India and then who the fuck knows.

(if I'm wrong please let me know cuz I got a Dell here I don't want to open LOL)
 
When I hear netbook, I think of cheap, slow a** machines made of last gen tech that can't be sold at a higher price point. Just saying. For me netbook referres to the performance capabilities, not the size.

When I hear netbook I think <10" screen, cramped keyboard, running atom.
 
When I hear 13'' I immediately think "netbook".

To each his own but after owning several laptops I find 13" the perfect form factor. 15" machines feel unwieldy to me when they're in my lap (which is how I use my machines most of the time) and they're kludgy and heavy to carry around. When I had a 10" netbook, it felt unusably cramped and uncomfortable. For me, 13" is just right. To each his own, obviously . . .
 
To each his own but after owning several laptops I find 13" the perfect form factor. 15" machines feel unwieldy to me when they're in my lap (which is how I use my machines most of the time) and they're kludgy and heavy to carry around. When I had a 10" netbook, it felt unusably cramped and uncomfortable. For me, 13" is just right. To each his own, obviously . . .

I agree, but I also find that the 11" Air is not too cramped. The full size keyboard and big trackpad help with that I think.
 
I find my 13" MacBook Pro too large. I actually tend to use my 11" Acer ultraportable/netbook more than my MBP. However, the 11" netbook isn't an Atom machine. See sig for specs.
 
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