Apple employee saying "we" when refering to Apple

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IronWing

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The above is a perfectly acceptable use of we. What is not acceptable is "Will we be trying dessert tonight?" from a waiter/waitress.
 

brblx

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The above is a perfectly acceptable use of we. What is not acceptable is "Will we be trying dessert tonight?" from a waiter/waitress.

meh. colloquialism that made it to common speech. as long as he doesn't say 'we' all night, i won't have to punch him. for some reason, it's usually just the dessert. even with communal appetizers and stuff, i've never heard 'we.'

also- "You should apply at my work place. We are hiring right now."

no. unless you are HR, THEY are hiring. in this situation, you = worthless. no offense. but unless you pull strings, you're really not involved in that pronoun.

which is the general thing with tech corporations. saying 'we' invented something implies...uh, you know, that maybe you had something to do with it.
 

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I don't know why anyone would think this is odd. I've always used "we" when referring to things my company does.
 

Leros

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It seems a bit weird to me for a sales person to say "we" in the context of Apple the corporation. It seems normal to me for a sales person to say "we" in the context of the Apple store.

An Apple engineer can say: "We invented the mouse first".
An Apple engineer can say: "Our stores sell the Mighty Mouse".

An Apple store employee can say: "Apple invented the mouse first".
An Apple store employee can say: "We sell the mighty mouse".

That's my take.
 
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middlehead

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So do I.

"You should apply at my work place. We are hiring right now."

I don't say it universally for the whole corporation, only for my group. I've told people "we're hiring" when there was an actual opening on my team, but if it's any other department, even another IT group, I say 'they.'
 

AlienCraft

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It seems a bit weird to me for a sales person to say "we" in the context of Apple the corporation. It seems normal to me for a sales person to say "we" in the context of the Apple store.

An Apple engineer can say: "We invented the mouse first".
An Apple engineer can say: "Our stores sell the Mighty Mouse".

An Apple store employee can say: "Apple invented the mouse first".
An Apple store employee can say: "We sell the mighty mouse".

That's my take.
I'd rather watch Mighty Mouse. o_O
 

So

Lifer
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Isn't that completely wrong anyways? Pretty sure Xerox created the first mouse and then they decided to dump it so apple redesigned it.

Actually:

Independently, Douglas Engelbart at the Stanford Research Institute invented the first mouse prototype in 1963,[4] with the assistance of his colleague Bill English.
source

Established on April 1, 1976 in Cupertino, California, and incorporated January 3, 1977,[8]
source.

So the mouse predates apple by a solid 13 years.

Uncle Steve was 8 and The Woz was 13. Neither of them were Stanford students in 1963.

Edit: Apple DID steal the GUI from Xerox PARC. IIRC, MS visited PARC as well and stole it independently, although Apple going to market with the Lisa probably pushed MS to work harder on Windows.
 

AreaCode707

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I found it hilarious when my dad switched his corporate loyalty from MS to Apple. He was/is a recruiting manager in both places. He used "we" to refer to both companies for about a month, and now Apple is "we" and MS is "they".
 

Locut0s

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I found it hilarious when my dad switched his corporate loyalty from MS to Apple. He was/is a recruiting manager in both places. He used "we" to refer to both companies for about a month, and now Apple is "we" and MS is "they".

This is only funny in face of their bitter rivalry. If it had been almost any 2 other companies I wouldn't find it odd. But yes in this case it's a bit chuckle worthy.
 

Locut0s

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So do I, nothing unusual there. Not that Apple fans and employees are enormous cock-smoking asstits (they are, just not for this reason).

Do you know the scene in clockwork orange with the eyeballs pried open? That's what they do to Apple employees. Their "we" doesn't mean the same thing that other peoples we does when they refer to their company.
 

Nik

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Good point. I suppose it shouldn't have stood out as weird to me considering that.

Have you never spoken to someone who works for a company about that company?

"What services do you offer?"
"We offer..."

I don't even know how you're puzzled by this.
 

Nik

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Maybe at the retail store level? At corporate there's no such policy in place.

Thanks, cap'n obvious! :p

The policy is in place because they directly interact with the customer, so it would naturally be this way.
 
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Have you never spoken to someone who works for a company about that company?

"What services do you offer?"
"We offer..."

I don't even know how you're puzzled by this.

This is different. He's not talking to his friend in such a manner, and the claim has nothing to do with him at all. So Apple developed a mouse 25 years ago, WTF does that have to do with this guy (who is probably what 25 years old)? And as mentioned he's also fucking wrong.

Its not that surprising though, and like others pointed out plenty of people do it either with their company or sports teams for instance.

If they're being an ass about it (like someone saying we talking about a sports team they just became a fan of after it got successful) then it's worth pointing out and criticizing them for. Just kinda depends on specific situations.
 

deanx0r

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Lets not get into that shit.
This thread is about how apple bends words to invent an alternate truth.
The thread about how apple flat out lies can be found elsewhere.

This thread is just further proof that Apple haters are just a bunch dickwards with a giant dildo stuck up their derriere (without lube).

Gotta spread the hate no matter how ridiculous it sounds, amirite?
 

actuarial

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I don't say it universally for the whole corporation, only for my group. I've told people "we're hiring" when there was an actual opening on my team, but if it's any other department, even another IT group, I say 'they.'

But it's still the company you work for hiring. I always use 'we' when referring to my employer.

In your example, I would say "we're looking for IT people" if I know of an opening in that department.
 

Exterous

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I use we when referring to the company I work for :shrug:

Ditto. I had to change that habit recently as I changed jobs and kept saying "We did..." when referring to my old company :oops:

meh. colloquialism that made it to common speech. as long as he doesn't say 'we' all night, i won't have to punch him. for some reason, it's usually just the dessert. even with communal appetizers and stuff, i've never heard 'we.'

It still bothers me. I usually respond with some jackassed comment like "Oh - are we splitting the cost?" Of course I am also the dickhead who generally responds to a "Can I?" question with "I don't know. Can you?"
 

Exterous

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This thread is just further proof that Apple haters are just a bunch dickwards with a giant dildo stuck up their derriere (without lube).

Gotta spread the hate no matter how ridiculous it sounds, amirite?

To be fair they have been caught recently manipulating the truth. For example - their lawsuits agains the Samsung Galaxy