Apple computer fans....

[40Hands]

I just want to know what people see in Apple.

 

[tweakmm]

You're not going to find a nicer notebook for under $2000 than the 15" Powerbook. The notebook just oozes quality.
Say what you will about their desktops, but in regards to laptops Apple is king. OS X is rediculously nice too.

 

[0roo0roo]

they do what needs to be done. not everyone is bent on get one bagillion frames in doom 3 as their goal in life.

 

[notfred]

I'm psoting this from a PC, but Apple just plain has a better OS.

Examples:

You're writing something in word. You save it to the desktop. You say "D'oh, I didn't want to save that on the desktop, I wanted to save it in my 'Word documents' folder".
In windows you have two options. Close the file, move it to the new folder, open it again. OR use "File > Save As" and then go into explorer and delete the old one.
On the mac, you go to the finder and move the file. That's all. You can continue worknig on the word file without closing it.

You want to use handy unix stuff like perl and grep? IN windows, you can get a lot of it to work through through cygwin or some third party release for stuff. But on OS X, it all jsut works. Heck, most of it comes with the OS.

Right now I'm typing in a quick reply box in firefox in windws. Note that I just misspelled "windows" in the last sentance. If I was typing this reply in Safari for OS X, "windws" would be underlined in red, the same way misspelled words are underlines for you in Word.

If I want to make a backup of all my settings and files in OS X, I jsut copy /Users/MyUsername to another drive. I can then reinstall the OS or whatever, and copy my stuff back. Everything will be the same, down to my wallpaper, desktop icon placement, etc. That just plain doesn't work in windows.

I could go on....

 

[DotheDamnTHing]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
You're not going to find a nicer notebook for under $2000 than the 15" Powerbook. The notebook just oozes quality.
Say what you will about their desktops, but in regards to laptops Apple is king. OS X is rediculously nice too.

doesnt ecs make apples notebooks? please correct me if im wrong

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
they do what needs to be done. not everyone is bent on get one bagillion frames in doom 3 as their goal in life.

that is an ignorant statement. not everyone plays computer games nevermind trying to get "one bagillion" frames in Doom 3. PCs also do what needs to be done. try again.

 

[Platypus]

a wonderful operating system and a mobile UNIX station in one.

 

[Gurck]

No offense notfred, but personally that sounds like you're really grasping for stuff to justify paying twice the price. None of those things you mentioned bother me in the least. If I didn't know what I was doing, of course, it might be nice. Further, PC != windows. There are a growing number of Linux users out there, I hope to become one at some point soon myself And I'd have bet money on you CR

 

[eigen]

Anthing that is said about the MAC Os can and should be said about most any linux distro.
Just wanted to put the linux fanboi two cents in.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Gurck
No offense notfred, but personally that sounds like you're really grasping for stuff to justify paying twice the price. None of those things you mentioned bother me in the least. If I didn't know what I was doing, of course, it might be nice. Further, PC != windows. There are a growing number of Linux users out there, I hope to become one at some point soon myself

That was just an example, there are a lot more, it's really hard to put a finger on but OS X is a much nicer computing environment and I'm not just saying that out of computing ignorance, I've been a PC user since I was 8 years old.

 

[Ausm]

fvck MAC go linux!!


Ausm

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: eigen
Anthing that is said about the MAC Os can and should be said about most any linux distro.
Just wanted to put the linux fanboi two cents in.

Linux has NOWHERE near the usablility of OSX.

I love my Apple, it is my second one. They have all worked well and done what I have expected them to do. I work all do as an Network Admin and I do not want to have to deal with stupid wintel problems when I get home.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Gurck
No offense notfred, but personally that sounds like you're really grasping for stuff to justify paying twice the price. None of those things you mentioned bother me in the least. If I didn't know what I was doing, of course, it might be nice. Further, PC != windows. There are a growing number of Linux users out there, I hope to become one at some point soon myself

Of course it doesn't bother you. If you spent your whole life driving around in Honda Civics, you'd be perfectly happy with your Honda Civic, which is a perfectly decent, affordable car. But if you bought a Mercedes-Benz and drove that around for a year, you'd realize that it's all the little things that make it the better car, and when you went back to the Civic, you'd notice things that used to seem fine now feel inferior to the Mercedes.

 

[naruto1988]

maybe someday when i'm rich, i'll get a mac just for the fun of it. but my 2-button mouse...my precioussssssss.......

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: BroeBo

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
they do what needs to be done. not everyone is bent on get one bagillion frames in doom 3 as their goal in life.

that is an ignorant statement. not everyone plays computer games nevermind trying to get "one bagillion" frames in Doom 3. PCs also do what needs to be done. try again.

perhaps, but when it comes down to it, thats the only real advantage of the pc. slightly less cost, and games. for that you sacrifice build quality/design.

just look at the threads on the imac. most who complain are the ones wondering if it'll run doom3 basically

 

[Childs]

Look at the Applications on the Mac. Look at the hardware. The perfect balance of form and function. You may not have a use for a Mac, but then you probably don't really use a computer as a tool. You wont find a better set of bundled apps (the iApps) for regular users , mid level software like Final Cut Express, or Pro software like DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut. Combine it with quality 3rd party apps like Photoshop, Shake, Maya, Quark. Then you have the OS, which just as functional and powerful as any Unix or open source OS, with a vastly superior interface.

I have two PCs, but aside from upgrade them and use one for a PVR and the other to play games, I don't use them for anything important. I use my Powerbook to do anything that counts.

 

[halik]

OSX ... the only reason needed. I dont even care about the design, platform or anything. Apple has the by far most advanced, polished and efficent OS up to date.

I run linux and work and home and i still find OSX better (especially now with gentoo portage ). Apple has spend millions in GUI and user interaction research and OSX is the proof of that. Anyone that has ever used it (compusa doesnt count) will vouch for that.

pmalik@imploding ~ $ uname -a
Linux imploding.com 2.6.5-gentoo #3 Thu Jul 29 11:53:45 EDT 2004 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1400MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: eigen
Anthing that is said about the MAC Os can and should be said about most any linux distro.
Just wanted to put the linux fanboi two cents in.

It can, except for give you a decent interface. You can have both.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: notfred
I'm psoting this from a PC, but Apple just plain has a better OS.

Examples:

You're writing something in word. You save it to the desktop. You say "D'oh, I didn't want to save that on the desktop, I wanted to save it in my 'Word documents' folder".
In windows you have two options. Close the file, move it to the new folder, open it again. OR use "File > Save As" and then go into explorer and delete the old one.
On the mac, you go to the finder and move the file. That's all. You can continue worknig on the word file without closing it.

You want to use handy unix stuff like perl and grep? IN windows, you can get a lot of it to work through through cygwin or some third party release for stuff. But on OS X, it all jsut works. Heck, most of it comes with the OS.

Right now I'm typing in a quick reply box in firefox in windws. Note that I just misspelled "windows" in the last sentance. If I was typing this reply in Safari for OS X, "windws" would be underlined in red, the same way misspelled words are underlines for you in Word.

If I want to make a backup of all my settings and files in OS X, I jsut copy /Users/MyUsername to another drive. I can then reinstall the OS or whatever, and copy my stuff back. Everything will be the same, down to my wallpaper, desktop icon placement, etc. That just plain doesn't work in windows.

I could go on....

These are small things...what about programs that are of real use?

BTW: you can copy your /documents and settings/[username] in XP and then bring it down to a new computer with XP and it will be the same as it was on the old PC...i do that here at my work all the time.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: BroeBo

Originally posted by: notfred
I'm psoting this from a PC, but Apple just plain has a better OS.

Examples:

You're writing something in word. You save it to the desktop. You say "D'oh, I didn't want to save that on the desktop, I wanted to save it in my 'Word documents' folder".
In windows you have two options. Close the file, move it to the new folder, open it again. OR use "File > Save As" and then go into explorer and delete the old one.
On the mac, you go to the finder and move the file. That's all. You can continue worknig on the word file without closing it.

You want to use handy unix stuff like perl and grep? IN windows, you can get a lot of it to work through through cygwin or some third party release for stuff. But on OS X, it all jsut works. Heck, most of it comes with the OS.

Right now I'm typing in a quick reply box in firefox in windws. Note that I just misspelled "windows" in the last sentance. If I was typing this reply in Safari for OS X, "windws" would be underlined in red, the same way misspelled words are underlines for you in Word.

If I want to make a backup of all my settings and files in OS X, I jsut copy /Users/MyUsername to another drive. I can then reinstall the OS or whatever, and copy my stuff back. Everything will be the same, down to my wallpaper, desktop icon placement, etc. That just plain doesn't work in windows.

I could go on....

These are small things...what about programs that are of real use?

BTW: you can copy your /documents and settings/[username] in XP and then bring it down to a new computer with XP and it will be the same as it was on the old PC...i do that here at my work all the time.

It's the small things that add up.

 

[Gurck]

Since we're discussing Apples and this question was ignored in the last thread - why doesn't Apple work on a winex? There are a lot of gamers out there, and a gaming rig costs twice what an internet & word-processing rig costs, and so wouldn't they benefit greatly by working on this? I mean Transgaming does it for Linux for a $5/month fee for users, what gives?

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Gurck
No offense notfred, but personally that sounds like you're really grasping for stuff to justify paying twice the price. None of those things you mentioned bother me in the least. If I didn't know what I was doing, of course, it might be nice. Further, PC != windows. There are a growing number of Linux users out there, I hope to become one at some point soon myself

Of course it doesn't bother you. If you spent your whole life driving around in Honda Civics, you'd be perfectly happy with your Honda Civic, which is a perfectly decent, affordable car. But if you bought a Mercedes-Benz and drove that around for a year, you'd realize that it's all the little things that make it the better car, and when you went back to the Civic, you'd notice things that used to seem fine now feel inferior to the Mercedes.

That pretty much sums it up.

Most people who rip on Apple and OS X have never really spent any time with the OS. They would rather just rehash the same hackneyed arguements that haven't been valid for five years.

I don't know if there is a better company that goes from idea to reality better than Apple. They pay attention to the details.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Since we're discussing Apples and this question was ignored in the last thread - why doesn't Apple work on a winex? There are a lot of gamers out there, and a gaming rig costs twice what an internet & word-processing rig costs, and so wouldn't they benefit greatly by working on this? I mean Transgaming does it for Linux for a $5/month fee for users, what gives?

winex is a set directX/windows lookalike libraries that are written for x86. Apples are powerpc architecture - you can write an emulator, but you couldnt get anythign playable...

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

I built my windws computer for two reasons:
1. cost cost cost
2. games

I hardly play any games anymore so that's now a non-issue for me. For everyday apps, I'd say Macs are just as good as PC's. Then there are the advantages of OS X, which I believe is a superior OS to WindowsXP. Finally, I'm into video editing and all of the best video and dvd authoring programs are on the Mac. These reasons are why I'll make the switch once a dual 1.8GHz G5 comes down to a price I'm willing to pay.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: BroeBo

Originally posted by: notfred
I'm psoting this from a PC, but Apple just plain has a better OS.

Examples:

You're writing something in word. You save it to the desktop. You say "D'oh, I didn't want to save that on the desktop, I wanted to save it in my 'Word documents' folder".
In windows you have two options. Close the file, move it to the new folder, open it again. OR use "File > Save As" and then go into explorer and delete the old one.
On the mac, you go to the finder and move the file. That's all. You can continue worknig on the word file without closing it.

You want to use handy unix stuff like perl and grep? IN windows, you can get a lot of it to work through through cygwin or some third party release for stuff. But on OS X, it all jsut works. Heck, most of it comes with the OS.

Right now I'm typing in a quick reply box in firefox in windws. Note that I just misspelled "windows" in the last sentance. If I was typing this reply in Safari for OS X, "windws" would be underlined in red, the same way misspelled words are underlines for you in Word.

If I want to make a backup of all my settings and files in OS X, I jsut copy /Users/MyUsername to another drive. I can then reinstall the OS or whatever, and copy my stuff back. Everything will be the same, down to my wallpaper, desktop icon placement, etc. That just plain doesn't work in windows.

I could go on....

These are small things...what about programs that are of real use?

BTW: you can copy your /documents and settings/[username] in XP and then bring it down to a new computer with XP and it will be the same as it was on the old PC...i do that here at my work all the time.

It's pretty obvious by your posts that you didn't start this thread because you, "just want to know what people see in Apple", you seem to just want to put down the mac as much as possible, and try and find exuses that people's reasons for liking it aren't valid.

What do I see in Apple? A whole bunch of little things that just make the computing experience a lot nicer as a whole.

As far as "programs that are of real use" go, most of them are available on both platforms: i.e. Office, Photoshop, Maya, etc. You can pick whichever platform you like and run Photoshop on it, the benefits of Mac OS or Win XP are pretty irrelevant as far as the operation of Photoshop or Office goes.