Apple: Android started here

[preslove]

I thought the allegations weren't on the mobile operating system itself but rather some aspect of the way it operates which is different enough. I haven't read any of the articles in detail, but it sounds like a few posters in this thread are taking it too literally. This guy could have been working on R&D that was originally planned for MacOS, but was never implemented.

Only a gullible fool or a ridiculous fanboy could believe that any patentable R&D for Mac System 7 found its way into Android.

 

[zerocool84]

Only a gullible fool or a ridiculous fanboy could believe that any patentable R&D for Mac System 7 found its way into Android.

Yes there was because it has icons on a screen and so does Android. According to Apple, that's all they need to sue.

 

[Aikouka]

Only a gullible fool or a ridiculous fanboy could believe that any patentable R&D for Mac System 7 found its way into Android.

Well, given how people say that Apple doesn't innovate in their OS releases, would you be surprised that Rubin's under-the-hood innovations weren't added into MacOS?

I'd have to do a bit more reading to understand it, but I would keep in mind that the claim is most likely not about actual source code but rather a software concept/design.

 

[zinfamous]

Hell that's double what I thought it was.

There is no way anybody had even thought of iOS or Android or anything similar back then.

well, it really doesn't matter.

If he made the code that would later be used for iOS or Android, while he was with Apple, then it belongs to Apple. Doesn't matter what he or anyone else thought it would be used for.

 

[theeedude]

well, it really doesn't matter.

If he made the code that would later be used for iOS or Android, while he was with Apple, then it belongs to Apple. Doesn't matter what he or anyone else thought it would be used for.

Yeah, he wrote some code at Apple in 92 and kept it on a floppy for 13 years.
Apple really has deluded itself into thinking that it's the ONLY innovative company out there.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, he wrote some code at Apple in 92 and kept it on a floppy for 13 years.
Apple really has deluded itself into thinking that it's the ONLY innovative company out there.

Be that as it may, if he did indeed do the work on Apple's dime, then it very much is likely their IP, based on contract.

Of all the shithole patent maneuvers that Apple and other corps are responsible for these days, this would be the least offending type.

Again--if this is the case--then this is standard just about everywhere.

 

[theeedude]

Be that as it may, if he did indeed do the work on Apple's dime, then it very much is likely their IP, based on contract.

Of all the shithole patent maneuvers that Apple and other corps are responsible for these days, this would be the least offending type.

Again--if this is the case--then this is standard just about everywhere.

Apple would have to prove it in court first. Good luck convincing a sane judge that Rubin was working on Android at Apple. Maybe they'll get that German nut to buy it tho.

 

[gorcorps]

Apple is definitely the worst.

First they brought up suits, not to legitimately get compensated for their innovations but to block competitors from the market. Then we learn in the suits that Apple patented stuff that should NEVER be patented (like rectangles) and that Apple was willing to photoshop competing products to help their case. After their actions forced Google to buy Moto, they now want to cry about the new competitor that they basically created.

Apple is like a rich kid in a middle class neighborhood who is first to get a new toy. He is proud of his toy, and proud of himself for thinking of the toy, and he refuses to share. Meanwhile Google is a poor kid down the block that pulled the toy box out of a dumpster and put together a similar toy using scraps in his dad's workshop. Meanwhile the rich kid complains to his parents that his toy is no longer special, and even though his argument is weak he complains so loudly in such a temper-tantrum that his parents go and buy the rip-off toy from the poor kid's parents just so the rich kid can destroy it to feel better about himself. Meanwhile, instead of fighting back, the poor kid pooled the money he made working his paper route and bought the newest version of the rich kid's toy. Now the rich kid is complaining that the poor kid won't let him play with the poor kid's hard earned toy, and he tells the poor kid that part of the new toy is his because he had the idea for the original toy and the poor kid wouldn't have the toy if it wasn't for him so he must share.

I hope eventually the rich kid's parents (US and EU governments) give him a spanking for acting like such a brat.

I was with you until you used the words "poor" and "google" in the same sentence.

 

[Oyeve]

Only a gullible fool or a ridiculous fanboy could believe that any patentable R&D for Mac System 7 found its way into Android.

And, unfortunately, there are millions of them.

 

[preslove]

Be that as it may, if he did indeed do the work on Apple's dime, then it very much is likely their IP, based on contract.

Of all the shithole patent maneuvers that Apple and other corps are responsible for these days, this would be the least offending type.

Again--if this is the case--then this is standard just about everywhere.

There is 0% chance that IP he developed at apple before he left in 1992 made it into android. Really, you have to be a f--king moron to take apple seriously in this case.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Apple invented everything. Everyone knows this.

 

[akugami]

Only a gullible fool or a ridiculous fanboy could believe that any patentable R&D for Mac System 7 found its way into Android.

There is 0% chance that IP he developed at apple before he left in 1992 made it into android. Really, you have to be a f--king moron to take apple seriously in this case.

As Aikouka states, why can't a design/concept be patented under Mac System 7 that found its way into Android? Not saying it's true mind you, and I doubt it's true to be honest, but let's not get into absolute statements here. If you actually bothered to read the article explaining Apple's claims, you'd understand that it is quite possible. Again, I doubt it or Apple would have sued Google over Android by now.

Apple would have to prove it in court first. Good luck convincing a sane judge that Rubin was working on Android at Apple. Maybe they'll get that German nut to buy it tho.

Thanks for not reading the article and then making a statement.

 

[zinfamous]

There is 0% chance that IP he developed at apple before he left in 1992 made it into android. Really, you have to be a f--king moron to take apple seriously in this case.

why? I don't really know anything about code and what not, I do know that Apple is nearly 100% bullshit in these type of suits...but I also know that code is used and reused from application to application.

If it's something as simple and lame as a tiny function, whatever that means, that he happened to develop at Apple that wormed its way into his work with Android, simply because he had used it over and over for 2 decades--and that manages to violate whatever agreement, then there could be a case.

I'm just speculating, without resorting to meaningless fanboy-anti-fanboyism.
:hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

Apple invented everything. Everyone knows this.

...except the internet.

 

[akugami]

...except the internet.

Everyone knows Al Gore invented the intertubes.