Appeals court says Lakeland girl, 17, can have abortion without telling parents

[zendari]

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LAKELAND -- An appeals court ruled that a 17-year-old girl can get an abortion without telling her parents, which overturns a decision by a Polk circuit judge.

A majority of the three-judge panel said Thursday that the girl has the maturity to decide whether to have an abortion or to decide if telling her parents would serve her best interests.

Circuit Judge Ellen Masters' denied the girl's original request for a waiver last month, ruling she did not meet the criteria for a waiver.

A new law, which became effective June 30, requires a physician to notify the parents or guardians of girls younger than 18 before performing an abortion. If the girl does not want her parents or guardians notified, she can request a waiver from a judge.

The girl, who will be 18 within a month, lives with her parents and comes from a Catholic family. She testified that she became pregnant by her steady boyfriend.

She said she wants to have an abortion because she is not prepared financially or otherwise to support a child.

Although she has a good relationship with her parents, the girl said they would "adamantly oppose her decision" to have an abortion and might kick her out.


I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.

Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.

 

[Strk]

You really make it hard to respond to your posts and adhere to the rules of the forum.

 

[stateofbeasley]

:roll:

I think it's deplorable that 17 year old girl thinks she has to get an abortion, but throwing her out on the street is not a good way to ensure that she becomes a healthy and productive citizen. I hope she has the child and puts him/her up for adoption.

Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.

What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

 

[aidanjm]

Hopefully this decision has not come too late for the girl to abort her fetus.

 

[Strk]

Why am I not surprised that your definition of family values consists of blind obedience?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

Being a free American gives her the right to spread her legs as she sees fit.

Of course you Authoratarian Republicans would abhore the concept of freedom.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

You say family values in the same post as all that crap? Are those your family values?

 

[stateofbeasley]

According to the facts, she hasn't had the abortion yet. You can't accuse her of killing her child when she hasn't done so yet.

Just because she defies her parents doesn't mean they should turn their backs on her. It's just not right.

Originally posted by: zendari
Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

It seems to me that you also have just as much of a problem with her having premarital sex as you do with her getting an abortion. Face it, people want to get it on, and there's nothing that will ever change that.

Educating the public about contraceptive options and making sure they are aware of STD risk is the best way to get the abortion rates to virtually nill.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Strk
Why am I not surprised that your definition of family values consists of blind obedience?

There is a huge difference between blind obedience and outright defiance and disrespect.

If you don't give a sh!t about the 'rents why are you living with them?

Like I said in the other thread any minor girl that gets an abortion should immediately become a legal adult and parents freed from responsibilities.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
According to the facts, she hasn't had the abortion yet. You can't accuse her of killing her child when she hasn't done so yet.

Just because she defies her parents doesn't mean they should turn their backs on her. It's just not right.

You mean like she turned her back on them?

 

[FuzzyBee]

With all of the hoopla surrounding this, how do her parents *not* know?

 

[ntdz]

I think minors should be forced to notify their parents, but I don't think their parents should be able to stop them from getting an abortion.

 

[stateofbeasley]

I just don't happen to see vengence as a good thing in family situations. It adds emotional and financial cost to an already costly situation.

Originally posted by: zendari
You mean like she turned her back on them?

 

[DealMonkey]

Good. If at 17 years old, you can be tried as an adult (and it happens quite often), then you should also get some adult-like perks as well. And Zendari, I sure hope no kid has to endure you as their father as you sound like you'd be a real prick.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari
Topic Title: Appeals court says Lakeland girl, 17, can have abortion without telling parents
Topic Summary: More kid abortions

Good, she made a mistake and she's correcting it. :thumbsup:

Something it is obvious Republicans are incapable of. :thumbsdown:

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

And it would be people like you who oppose her getting decent sex ed in schools, oppose birth control, and show no interest in making adoption affordable for a normal family.

 

[umbrella39]

17 year olds can be tried as adults. So can 14 years old. A girl in her teens should be able to decide if and when and whom she tells.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Strk
You really make it hard to respond to your posts and adhere to the rules of the forum.

:laugh:
Too true!

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
What I find just as deplorable is that people like you, who claim to be all about family values, show the least amount of compassion for those who are in trouble.

Compassionate Conservatism my a$$. People like you have betrayed all that was good about Conservatism.

Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.

She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.

I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.

Being a free American gives her the right to spread her legs as she sees fit.

Of course you Authoratarian Republicans would abhore the concept of freedom.

Many republicans and other fundamentalists not only view the concept of having sex as synonymous with having children, but also view the responsibility of raising children as "punishment" for what they consider immoral sexual behavior. Hence the idea that ruining some young girl's entire future is perfectly acceptable because she "decided to spread her legs".

People like zendari make me want to vomit.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.

Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.

What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|

 

[Todd33]

At 17 if she were a male, she could go off to war and die. As a female, she is a little kid who can't make reproduction decisions by herself. What a joke.

 

[Cerb]

Wow, flame bait, and it worked wonderfully.

I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.

Either you agree, or vehemently disagree, and you know you're not changing his mind.

 

[judasmachine]

after this court case here parents don't know?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
17 year olds can be tried as adults. So can 14 years old. A girl in her teens should be able to decide if and when and whom she tells.

Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?

At 17 if she were a male, she could go off to war and die. As a female, she is a little kid who can't make reproduction decisions by herself. What a joke.

Don't you need your parents' permission to do that?

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Some branches of the military (such as the National Guard) will sign up 17-year-old high school seniors, with parental permission, for a Delayed Entry Program (although no bonuses are paid until the completion of Basic Training), and military recruiters may visit and talk to high schoolers, but no U.S. military service enlists 14-16 year olds for (future) combat duty.