I am almost sure this is a repost, but I couldn't find it.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002031100,00.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002031100,00.html
Apparently we aren't mis-treating prisoners in Cuba
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By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON
Deputy Political Editor
PRISONERS at Camp X-Ray are NOT being mistreated in any way, an official report found yesterday.
The study by British diplomats exposed the bleatings of hand-wringing liberals as a pack of LIES.
The dossier on scores of al-Qa?ida prisoners being held at a US base in Cuba confirmed none was being softened up for interrogation with ?sensory deprivation?.
It found NO gags, NO shackles and NO blindfolds were routinely used and dismissed claims that captives were kept like animals.
Downing Street said: ?We were assured the detainees would be treated in a humane way and believe this is the case.?
British investigators concluded the captives were well fed, were called to prayer through public address loudspeakers ? and were even sprayed to PROTECT them from mosquito bites.
Ear muffs were placed on their heads simply to spare them the deafening din of aircraft engines during their 27-hour flight from Afghanistan.
Checks ... prisoners at Camp X-Ray
They were issued with face masks to prevent them catching tuberculosis and they were shackled on the plane to stop them running amok, attacking their guards and even downing the aircraft in a suicidal uprising.
A storm of protest flared after pictures were issued showing the al-Qa?ida and Taliban prisoners arriving in Cuba wearing goggles, masks and ear defenders.
Human rights groups claimed it proved the men were being humiliated and softened up for interrogation.
But the British report ? compiled by diplomats and boosted with intelligence gathered by MI5 officers ? blew apart that myth.
It was pointed out the pictures were taken minutes after the detainees arrived at Camp X-Ray.
Foreign Office minister Ben Bradshaw told MPs yesterday: "The detainees are free to conduct religious observances, they have prayer mats and calls to prayers are broadcast over the camp PA system.
"They are given as much drinking water as they want, three meals a day and food that complies with their religious practices, if they wish it.
Sign ... pointing to Mecca
"The officials received full co-operation from the camp?s commander who said that the more lurid allegations about torture and sensory deprivation are completely false.
"None of the prisoners complained of any ill treatment, none said they had any medical condition requiring treatment, medical facilities are available at the compound."
Mr Bradshaw went on: ?On the basis of the report, I am satisfied these accusations were premature and that the detainees are being treated in line with international humanitarian norms in conditions where security is paramount.?
Tory foreign affairs spokesman Alan Duncan declared: ?We want the highest standards of treatment without risky naivety.?
The eight-page dossier showed each prisoners had two towels, with one being used as a prayer mat. They were also given sandals, soap and shampoo.
Each morning they were handed a breakfast of fresh fruit and cereals and then an Islamic pre-packed lunch and an evening meal.
Doctors carried out daily medical checks and the Red Cross is supplying copies of the Koran to each. There is even a sign indicating the direction of Mecca.
The men?s cages were sprayed with mosquito repellent frequently and the only time they were chained was when they came out for exercise.
Details of the conditions at the complex in Guantanamo were drawn from a study carried out at the weekend.
The arrival yesterday of a new batch of 34 prisoners took the total to 144 from ten different countries.
All were captured during US-led attacks in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban regime and smash Osama bin Laden?s al-Qa?ida terror network.
Camp guards said leaders had begun to emerge among the detainees.
One in particular was a beefy, one-legged man who faced the wrong way to pray and chanted in Arabic, ?Be strong. Allah will save us? until told to stop it.
The British inquiry revealed that NONE of the three Britons suspected of being al-Qa?ida members had complained about their treatment.
The mother of one pleaded yesterday for permission to visit him.
Zumrati Juma spoke after being assured that her son, ex-student Feroz Abbasi, 22, was not being ill-treated.
Mrs Juma, an NHS nurse at Epsom General Hospital, Surrey, said: ?I won?t be happy until I have seen him for myself.?
Last night Mr Bradshaw said the Government planned to ask America to ensure the British al-Qa?ida suspects would not face the death penalty if tried in the US.
And a Federal judge in California agreed to hear a petition from leading American civil rights activists
Deputy Political Editor
PRISONERS at Camp X-Ray are NOT being mistreated in any way, an official report found yesterday.
The study by British diplomats exposed the bleatings of hand-wringing liberals as a pack of LIES.
The dossier on scores of al-Qa?ida prisoners being held at a US base in Cuba confirmed none was being softened up for interrogation with ?sensory deprivation?.
It found NO gags, NO shackles and NO blindfolds were routinely used and dismissed claims that captives were kept like animals.
Downing Street said: ?We were assured the detainees would be treated in a humane way and believe this is the case.?
British investigators concluded the captives were well fed, were called to prayer through public address loudspeakers ? and were even sprayed to PROTECT them from mosquito bites.
Ear muffs were placed on their heads simply to spare them the deafening din of aircraft engines during their 27-hour flight from Afghanistan.
Checks ... prisoners at Camp X-Ray
They were issued with face masks to prevent them catching tuberculosis and they were shackled on the plane to stop them running amok, attacking their guards and even downing the aircraft in a suicidal uprising.
A storm of protest flared after pictures were issued showing the al-Qa?ida and Taliban prisoners arriving in Cuba wearing goggles, masks and ear defenders.
Human rights groups claimed it proved the men were being humiliated and softened up for interrogation.
But the British report ? compiled by diplomats and boosted with intelligence gathered by MI5 officers ? blew apart that myth.
It was pointed out the pictures were taken minutes after the detainees arrived at Camp X-Ray.
Foreign Office minister Ben Bradshaw told MPs yesterday: "The detainees are free to conduct religious observances, they have prayer mats and calls to prayers are broadcast over the camp PA system.
"They are given as much drinking water as they want, three meals a day and food that complies with their religious practices, if they wish it.
Sign ... pointing to Mecca
"The officials received full co-operation from the camp?s commander who said that the more lurid allegations about torture and sensory deprivation are completely false.
"None of the prisoners complained of any ill treatment, none said they had any medical condition requiring treatment, medical facilities are available at the compound."
Mr Bradshaw went on: ?On the basis of the report, I am satisfied these accusations were premature and that the detainees are being treated in line with international humanitarian norms in conditions where security is paramount.?
Tory foreign affairs spokesman Alan Duncan declared: ?We want the highest standards of treatment without risky naivety.?
The eight-page dossier showed each prisoners had two towels, with one being used as a prayer mat. They were also given sandals, soap and shampoo.
Each morning they were handed a breakfast of fresh fruit and cereals and then an Islamic pre-packed lunch and an evening meal.
Doctors carried out daily medical checks and the Red Cross is supplying copies of the Koran to each. There is even a sign indicating the direction of Mecca.
The men?s cages were sprayed with mosquito repellent frequently and the only time they were chained was when they came out for exercise.
Details of the conditions at the complex in Guantanamo were drawn from a study carried out at the weekend.
The arrival yesterday of a new batch of 34 prisoners took the total to 144 from ten different countries.
All were captured during US-led attacks in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban regime and smash Osama bin Laden?s al-Qa?ida terror network.
Camp guards said leaders had begun to emerge among the detainees.
One in particular was a beefy, one-legged man who faced the wrong way to pray and chanted in Arabic, ?Be strong. Allah will save us? until told to stop it.
The British inquiry revealed that NONE of the three Britons suspected of being al-Qa?ida members had complained about their treatment.
The mother of one pleaded yesterday for permission to visit him.
Zumrati Juma spoke after being assured that her son, ex-student Feroz Abbasi, 22, was not being ill-treated.
Mrs Juma, an NHS nurse at Epsom General Hospital, Surrey, said: ?I won?t be happy until I have seen him for myself.?
Last night Mr Bradshaw said the Government planned to ask America to ensure the British al-Qa?ida suspects would not face the death penalty if tried in the US.
And a Federal judge in California agreed to hear a petition from leading American civil rights activists
Funny how the original post where there were accusations that the prisoners were being mistreated got over 180 replies, while this post got about 5. I guess most people don't even see the corrected news, and their image the same remains about the "poor Al-Qaeda prisoners being mistreated."
More here and here.
More here and here.
sandorski
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Well, if you are talking about Rison's thread, it really wasn't about whether or not the prisoners were being mistreated. Right from the first post it was a blatant attack on Europeans disguised as a discussion on the alleged mistreatment of the prisoners. It soon became clear that many self confessed "conservatives" were actually in favour of the alleged mistreatment. Rightly so, many people objected to the pro-mistreat crowd. This can be illustrated by the fact that someone posted the British visitors comments in an early part of the thread to no avail.
it never even crossed my mind that the US would even consider mistreating the prisoners. i was surprised about the initial story and thought it had to be complete BS.
apparently it is complete BS which doesn't surprise me since the news out of afganistan has been a little too bland to make a good story for the media so why not just make something up to pick ratings up a little. after all, who cares? it's only the US getting a bad reputation again.
btw, the above is a bit of sarcasm for those that can't tell the difference.
apparently it is complete BS which doesn't surprise me since the news out of afganistan has been a little too bland to make a good story for the media so why not just make something up to pick ratings up a little. after all, who cares? it's only the US getting a bad reputation again.
btw, the above is a bit of sarcasm for those that can't tell the difference.
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