Apologist in Chief in Japan

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.
 
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MongGrel

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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.

After 8 years and you're still flailing away, it's hard to say who is ridiculous.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...he-atomic-bomb-on-japan?int=a14709&int=a14709
 
Nov 25, 2013
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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.


Maybe he was part of the Vince Foster murder as well. Possibly helped plan it when he was a kid in Kenya.
 

Bowfinger

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Nov 17, 2002
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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.
What's ridiculous is how engulfed in hatred you've become. Good God, man, two of your three links were written before Obama's speech. The first link, written yesterday, was from John Bolton, one of the Bush administration's most vile warmongers. He's probably still fuming that we didn't nuke Iraq. Your third link was written in early April, and is about Kerry. How is it you didn't see this?

Only your second link was posted after Obama's speech. Of course it's from Breitbart, a company whose business model is attacking the left, even if it has to fabricate the story. It spends the whole article imagining how Obama's words are really apologies instead of focusing on what he actually said. It's no coincidence they don't actually link the speech so people can read it for themselves. (Then again, people who want to think for themselves don't read Breitbart.)


For those of you who don't need Breitbart to think for you, here's a link to the actual speech: White House transcript.
 

blankslate

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So the U.S. officially apologized for dropping two atomic bombs on Japan....

Odd that the new organizations (not blogs REAL new sites) are so inattentive to details.


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LegendKiller

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What's ridiculous is how engulfed in hatred you've become. Good God, man, two of your three links were written before Obama's speech. The first link, written yesterday, was from John Bolton, one of the Bush administration's most vile warmongers. He's probably still fuming that we didn't nuke Iraq. Your third link was written in early April, and is about Kerry. How is it you didn't see this?

Only your second link was posted after Obama's speech. Of course it's from Breitbart, a company whose business model is attacking the left, even if it has to fabricate the story. It spends the whole article imagining how Obama's words are really apologies instead of focusing on what he actually said. It's no coincidence they don't actually link the speech so people can read it for themselves. (Then again, people who want to think for themselves don't read Breitbart.)


For those of you who don't need Breitbart to think for you, here's a link to the actual speech: White House transcript.
So pretty much, they are spot on.

The moralistic historical revisionism is disgusting. Obama is on a worldwide apology tour because he thinks that'll make the world better.

He bows and prostrates himself, and the country, everywhere. Why? Because hard men made hard decisions and he has the benefit of history to judge them. Instead of making decisions and wobbles and leads from behind. Essentially, he is an emasculated whimp. All of the world leaders laugh at this.
 
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Bowfinger

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So pretty much, they are spot on.

The moralistic historical revisionism is disgusting. Obama is on a worldwide apology tour because he thinks that'll make the world better.

He bows and prostrates himself, and the country, everywhere. Why? Because hard men made hard decisions and he has the benefit of history to judge them. Instead of making decisions and wobbles and leads from behind. Essentially, he is an emasculated whimp. All of the world leaders laugh at this.
Wow! Does your doctor know you're off your meds?
 

SlowSpyder

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Jan 12, 2005
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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.


One of two things must be true:
1) You're being sarcastic.
2) You've ordered "freedom fries."
 

1prophet

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Hiroshima survivors want Obama to apologize. But the Japanese government probably doesn't.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/27/11791766/obama-hiroshima-apology


But while many Japanese survivors might want President Obama to apologize for the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, the Japanese government might actually prefer that Obama not apologize.

Indeed, Japan’s vice foreign minister, Mitoji Yabunaka, reportedly told US Ambassador John Roos that "President Obama visiting Hiroshima to apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a ‘non starter,’" according to a 2009 State Department cable released in 2011 by WikiLeaks.

So why in the world wouldn’t the Japanese government want the US to apologize for inflicting such a horrendous tragedy on Japan? It turns out there are two reasons:

1) It would put pressure on Japan to apologize in kind

An apology from President Obama could make Prime Minister Shinzo Abe feel compelled to offer his own apology for Japan’s wartime atrocities, including the "Rape of Nanking" in China and massacres of ethnic Chinese in Malaysia and Singapore— which, according to Yuki Tanaka, a professor at Hiroshima City University I spoke with, were perpetrated in part by soldiers from Hiroshima.

"Obama apologizing would bring up the issue of Japan apologizing, which is something Mr. Abe desperately wants to avoid," Michael Cucek, an adjunct professor at Temple University’s Japan campus, told me in an interview.
Already, a group of more than 300 Hiroshima peace activists are calling on the prime minister to join Obama in apologizing for the "grave war crimes [both] nations committed."

Abe has long resisted such mea culpas, saying Japan needs to end its "masochistic" feelings of guilt. In December, he apologized for Japan’s use of Korean "comfort women" as sex slaves during the war, but afterward he returned to his "time to move on" refrain, telling reporters, "We should not drag this problem into the next generation."

The same issues are now surfacing in Hiroshima. When the bomb fell there, tens of thousands of Koreans were working on the ground as forced laborers, and an estimated 40,000 to 50,000 were killed. Last week, a group representing Korean survivors called on both Obama and Abe to apologize and wrote to Obama, "We hope your visit to Hiroshima will not be used to further the Abe government’s intention of painting Japan merely as a victim."

Tanaka, the history professor, said Japan could avoid such accusations of whitewashing if it followed Germany’s lead and explored its own culpability. That country takes the responsibility so seriously there’s even a German word, Vergangenheitsbewältigung, to describe coming to terms with one’s past.

"If you go to the Holocaust museum in Berlin, you always see groups of students engaging in discussions," Tanaka said. "You go to Hiroshima and there’s no discussion, only victimization."

2) It could inflame a long-simmering domestic debate over nuclear power — and nuclear weapons

An apology from Obama for using nuclear weapons on Japan "could open up a can of worms" about Japan’s own nuclear program, Koichi Nakano, a political science professor at Sophia University in Tokyo, told me when we spoke recently.

Since the disaster at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant in 2011, Prime Minister Abe has worked hard to contain a vocal anti-nuclear movement in Japan. On the fifth anniversary of the disaster, he reaffirmed his commitment, saying Japan "cannot do without" nuclear power.


Japan now has the largest stockpile of separated plutonium of any country that isn’t a nuclear power, according to the Wall Street Journal. And that’s emboldened some war hawks: "If Japan wanted to develop nuclear weapons, it could do it almost immediately," former Tokyo governor and military hard-liner Shintaro Ishihara told a group of journalists last week. "And why shouldn’t Japan have its own?"

With North Korea testing nuclear weapons just a few hundred miles away, that view might be gaining traction. In April, shortly after Donald Trump mused in the New York Times about the possibility of abandoning the US nuclear commitment to Japan’s security and encouraging Japan to develop its own arsenal instead, Abe issued a statement saying that the Japanese constitution does, in fact, allow for the development and use of nuclear weapons.

"This is a government that is not ruling out owning and using a nuclear weapon, so an apology at Hiroshima is going to make things awkward," said Sophia University’s Nakano.

Nakano said Abe also sees a political opportunity in Obama’s visit, which comes just ahead of Japan’s summer elections, and doesn’t want to spoil that with apologies. There is already an upper house election scheduled, but, as the Japan Times reports, Abe may get enough of a bump from Obama’s visit that he decides to call a lower house poll as well.
If his party gets a majority in both houses, he’s pledged to go forward with changes to Japan’s pacifist constitution.

Tanaka, the survivor who lost five family members, told reporters he thinks that’s the wrong direction for the country. "Our constitution calls for the peaceful resolution of conflict. This is important to the survivors, and I think if we can share this idea with the world, it could become the global norm." It’s a message he said he hopes to deliver to President Obama, whether or not the president offers an apology.
 
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So pretty much: We're sorry for finishing the war you started and minimizing casualties on all sides.

Ohh, and Truman, you were an evil amoral jerk. I am way better than you.

Signed,
History's most moral and naively idealistic person, Apologist in Chief,

http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas-shameful-apology-tour-lands-in-hiroshima/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/12...apologizing-for-america-winning-world-war-ii/


This stuff is getting ridiculous. This guy must have a deep seated hatred for America.

Not often this meme can aptly fit a post so well
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feralkid

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So the U.S. officially apologized for dropping two atomic bombs on Japan....

Odd that the new organizations (not blogs REAL new sites) are so inattentive to details.


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I'm sure there will be an indictment or something within 60 days.

Also Benghazi emails take longer to arrive than internet blogs.


or something.




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waggy

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WTF that was no apology. not once did he even come close to it in that speech.

He just talked about the evil men do. and as civilized nations that we should do our best to avoid it.


bah
 

LegendKiller

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WTF that was no apology. not once did he even come close to it in that speech.

He just talked about the evil men do. and as civilized nations that we should do our best to avoid it.


bah

One of the survivors took it as an apology. Guess I'm not the only one.
 

umbrella39

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Jun 11, 2004
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OP should be fucking embarrassed... but something tells me he's jerking off under a bed instead...
 

Jhhnn

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WTF that was no apology. not once did he even come close to it in that speech.

He just talked about the evil men do. and as civilized nations that we should do our best to avoid it.


bah

More than that- he emphasized the alliance & friendship forged in the wake of that catastrophe, the peace & prosperity brought to both peoples. He didn't need to play the ever popular blame game to do it, either.