Apogee XT 180 degrees off

john3850

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How bad is it to run Apogee in the wrong orientation with respect to the CPU socket
I mounted Apogee XT wb a 180 degrees the wrong way for 9 months.
The Apogee outlet is below or lower then inlet and faces down toward the rear of case.
The Apogee outlet should face up and be above the inlet next to cpu lock lever.
Summer idle temp 39-40c load 66+c at 4200mhz with 1.3v

Below is a note from Swiftech website,
The cold plate surface is topographically mapped to provide an optimized TIM joint with socket LGA 771, 775, 1155, 1156 and 1366 compatible processors. As a result, the Apogee™ XT requires a specific mounting orientation with respect to the CPU socket in order to optimize performance as illustrated above picture.
 

dawp

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The apogee xt should be mounted with one of the side with the 3 screws is towards the handle, it doesn't seem to matter which side as long as the 3 screw side is mounted that way.

I just got this block and haven't mounted it yet as the pump I was going to use wont work, I let it sit too long unused. Was reading that from the install guide.

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also, look at this thread - http://032ee51.netsolhost.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1319
 
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PlasmaBomb

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Apogee™ XT (factory inlet configuration)
37.88 °C

Apogee™ XT (alternate inlet configuration) (**)
37.99 °C

**Alternate inlet configuration is when the inlet is rotated at 180° to allow installation of extra large compression fittings.

The difference is negligible and not worth worrying about...
 
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dawp

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The difference is negligible and not worth worrying about...

he's talking about the block and not just the inlet. on the XT, the inlet can be unscrewed and and rotated 180* so it isn't centered on the block to accommodate different barb types.

scroll down and look at the three pics side by side, the one in the center has the inlet switched

http://www.swiftech.com/apogeext.aspx#tab4
 
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john3850

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The apogee xt should be mounted with one of the side with the 3 screws is towards the handle, it doesn't seem to matter which side as long as the 3 screw side is mounted that way.

I just got this block and haven't mounted it yet as the pump I was going to use wont work, I let it sit too long unused. Was reading that from the install guide.

edit:

also, look at this thread - http://032ee51.netsolhost.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1319
Have sceen many water pumps in many different dishwashers not turn if pump wasnt used for 3 or more months the seals get tight.
I suggest you turn pump by hand if possible to free it up.
Then run the pump in using water.
 

dawp

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Have sceen many water pumps in many different dishwashers not turn if pump wasnt used for 3 or more months the seals get tight.
I suggest you turn pump by hand if possible to free it up.
Then run the pump in using water.

it isn't the seals, the impeller wont spin, or wont spin for very long. I've emailed swiftech and waiting on a reply.
 

john3850

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Turned wb to the correct position which raised the outlet above the inlet.
Temps idle were 40c are now 33c with 1.29v.
I would saythe wrong position could raise your temps close to 10c more.
 

aigomorla

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The difference is negligible and not worth worrying about...

yeah it is, as long as it wasnt 90 degree's or 270 degree's.
your looking at the wash area on the block.

Flow goes from the middle and washes to the side.
Having it done the right away allows a better wash, but in reality it wont be by much.

Have sceen many water pumps in many different dishwashers not turn if pump wasnt used for 3 or more months the seals get tight.
I suggest you turn pump by hand if possible to free it up.
Then run the pump in using water.

Seals get tight? what?
which pump are you using? A DDC? A D5?
They have no real moving parts besides the magnetic impeller.
If anything tear open your pump, get a good toothbrush, and scrub the impeller chamger so its free from impurities.

Clean the ceramic bearing as well, and it should be good to go.
If the pump doesnt work, well, its dead at the circuit board.

Turned wb to the correct position which raised the outlet above the inlet.
Temps idle were 40c are now 33c with 1.29v.
I would saythe wrong position could raise your temps close to 10c more.

Thats not possible.. lol...

as i said its the wash area.
As long as the wash area is hitting the entire die, and all cores are taken care of, what your saying is just not possible.

When u did maintance... adding new coolant, or cleaning out the rad, you probably got your benifit there.

The only way to see a increase as big as u said, is if u had the block in a 90 degree, and not 180 degree.