APNewsBreak: Israel halts east Jerusalem building

[JEDIYoda]

very interesting development.....lets see what the next step.....

So what will the Palestinians do now....




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100426/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

JERUSALEM – Israel's prime minister has effectively frozen new Jewish construction in east Jerusalem, municipal officials said Monday, reflecting the need to mend a serious rift with the U.S. and get Mideast peace talks back on track.

The move comes despite Benjamin Netanyahu's repeated assertion he would never halt construction in east Jerusalem and risks angering hard-liners in his government. One lawmaker from Netanyahu's Likud Party warned the governing coalition could collapse over the issue.

Still, the de facto freeze appeared to offer the promise of reviving peace efforts derailed after Israel announced plans for a major Jewish housing development during a visit by Vice President Joe Biden last month.

That set off the worst diplomatic dispute between the U.S. and Israel in decades — and prompted the Palestinians to call off a new round of U.S.-brokered peace talks.

The quiet halting of east Jerusalem housing approvals coincides with signs that those talks are now about to start — and could help explain recent U.S. statements stressing America's close ties to Israel.

 

[Lemon law]

All in all its a very good Israeli step IMHO, but I am also skeptical because it smells of previous Israeli policy of taking one step back and then two more less public steps forward.

But its still one of those time will tell questions, so I await further developments as the real proof of the pudding.

After all, dare we hope, this might later lead, as just one small step, to a larger win win win just mid-east peace where everyone but international terrorism wins?

As Dr Martin Luther King said, we should all keep our eyes on that greater goal and prize.

 

[PJABBER]

Any bets that Israel is getting ready to hit Iran and needs the JDAM kits Obama failed to deliver as promised?

 

[irishScott]

Well, we'll see where this goes. Can't really make any assertions for the moment.

 

[Noobtastic]

Israel press has always been saying Netanyahu planned new "confidence-building measures" to woo the Obama administration.

Right now Israel is just trying to ride out Obama, hoping he will stop being such an Arabist toll and end the weapons embargo.

Everyone knows the settlement dispute is a non-issue and not a fraction as important as the refugee status, Palestinian unity, etc.

but, it's used as a lightening rod to stall talks - and Arabs are far more upset about Jews living next door than the Palestinians have a functional state with a Jewish minority.

IT's all about blaming Israel. If the settlements didn't exist, and they didn't for 30+ years, they'd invent some new reason for war.

it's all a game.

Israel knows this.

 

[Jhhnn]

Any bets that Israel is getting ready to hit Iran and needs the JDAM kits Obama failed to deliver as promised?

You are sooo lame. If Israel attacks Iran w/o express American permission, their tit goes in the wringer like never before.

I don't think they'll get it, either. Not even the Bush Admin was quite that stupid.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Will the Palestinians now come to the table or will another demand be forth coming?

 

[JEDIYoda]

You are sooo lame. If Israel attacks Iran w/o express American permission, their tit goes in the wringer like never before.

I don't think they'll get it, either. Not even the Bush Admin was quite that stupid.

You are such a prude.....
When it comes to Israel, if they feel their very survival is in danger they can and will act without anybodys damn permission!!!!!!!!

 

[EagleKeeper]

In some previous conflicts; Israel has requested the world body/leaders to step in and try to diffuse the problem BEFORE is escalated.

Such support has never happened. They either do not believe that the problem exists or they are willing to side against ISrael.

So, as JEDIYoda stated, Israel will do what it feels is in it's best interests when the world ignores the issues.

 

[Lemon law]

The PJABBER position that Obama will give Israel the JDAM's in return may be an only PJABBER delusion, but it may more realistically put Obama in a position to broker an agreement, where all surrounding Arab States will all formally recognize Israel's right to exist in exchange for a real Israeli settlement halt. And also some Israeli subsequent concessions to make a just mid east peace possible in terms of a viable Palestinian State.

 

[Noobtastic]

The PJABBER position that Obama will give Israel the JDAM's in return may be an only PJABBER delusion, but it may more realistically put Obama in a position to broker an agreement, where all surrounding Arab States will all formally recognize Israel's right to exist in exchange for a real Israeli settlement halt. And also some Israeli subsequent concessions to make a just mid east peace possible in terms of a viable Palestinian State.

arab states have never agreed to recognize israel if it castrates the jewish presence in the west bank.

surprise surprise..lemon law is a dumbass.

 

[heyheybooboo]

arab states have never agreed to recognize israel if it castrates the jewish presence in the west bank.

surprise surprise..lemon law is a dumbass.

My gawd you're a douche.





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[Lemon law]

I would just love to see the IHV jawbone drop if Obama pulls it off. And Israeli gets universal Arab recognition of Israeli's right to exist contingent on Israel being a real peace partner.

Talk about priceless, and moreover it may very possible now.

As for the current Netanyuhu concessions, other links seem to say Netanyuhu is telling Obama and the West one thing while while telling his settler party supporters quite another thing.

 

[Noobtastic]

My gawd you're a douche.





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I'm right.

Lemon Law is an idiot.

rather be a douche than a total moron.

 

[fallout man]

Israel can feign cooperation all they want, but at the end of the day the know the rules of the game all too well.

All they need to do is throw down a few hellfire missiles (fightin' terrar!) to get the fire started again, and whistle along while they play coy and pretend that they're the poor blame-less victims when the inevitable pop-rockets come-a-flyin'.

Everyone knows this.

 

[Mani]

Good for them.

 

[Narmer]

In some previous conflicts; Israel has requested the world body/leaders to step in and try to diffuse the problem BEFORE is escalated.

Such support has never happened. They either do not believe that the problem exists or they are willing to side against ISrael.

So, as JEDIYoda stated, Israel will do what it feels is in it's best interests when the world ignores the issues.

Selective memory FTL.

 

[Throckmorton]

I can't believe anyone here is against this...

 

[JEDIYoda]

Israel can feign cooperation all they want, but at the end of the day the know the rules of the game all too well.

All they need to do is throw down a few hellfire missiles (fightin' terrar!) to get the fire started again, and whistle along while they play coy and pretend that they're the poor blame-less victims when the inevitable pop-rockets come-a-flyin'.

Everyone knows this.

what everyone knows is your contempt for israel...as if the Palestinians did nothing wrong....lol

 

[Noobtastic]

what everyone knows is your contempt for israel...as if the Palestinians did nothing wrong....lol

Israel?

What Israel...

it's the Zionist entity, DUH!

 

[Freshgeardude]

As much as I'd love for israel to kick iran's ass in a war, I dont think they could do it solely by themselves. Iran has way more soldiers to fight with.

Just like in WWII, the allies only won because we had more soldiers, even though we had worse technology.

All in all, I think Israel is waiting for iran to try something so they can get total world support.

We all know that a 2 state solution wont happen when iran is the puppeteer of hamas.

For example, iran told hamas they would stop money flow to hamas if they they agreed to a cease fire during Operation Cast Lead, but in the end hamas was getting butt fucked into one

and even if a 2 state solution happens, iran will find another reason to be hostile towards israel.

 

[Lemon law]

It very much looks like Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, with an annual Iranian funding of Hamas set at 3 million a year.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hamas-funds.htm

 

[EagleKeeper]

In some previous conflicts; Israel has requested the world body/leaders to step in and try to diffuse the problem BEFORE is escalated.

Such support has never happened. They either do not believe that the problem exists or they are willing to side against ISrael.

So, as JEDIYoda stated, Israel will do what it feels is in it's best interests when the world ignores the issues.

Selective memory FTL.

Please clarify where I may be wrong

 

[EagleKeeper]

It very much looks like Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, with an annual Iranian funding of Hamas set at 3 million a year.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hamas-funds.htm

A trawler full of weapons is worth more than a measly $3M

 

[Freshgeardude]

A trawler full of weapons is worth more than a measly $3M

as well as using the 3 million for weapons