AOC Has Something to Say to "Never Biden" Bernie Bros

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Jhhnn

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That's the "Not Trump" policy. People have Real Needs.

Correct. Now you have to figure out which Party will better meet those needs, who's prepared to be reasonable & who's not. Examples abound, like the current House bill & the reception in the Senate. It's just a start in the right direction. We must first win it all or we'll be destroyed. We. All of us. Libs & Progressives alike. We can work it out with good intentions for each other.

Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
 
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sandorski

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Correct. Now you have to figure out which Party will better meet those needs, who's prepared to be reasonable & who's not. Examples abound, like the current House bill & the reception in the Senate. It's just a start in the right direction. We must first win it all or we'll be destroyed. We. All of us. Libs & Progressives alike. We can work it out with good intentions for each other.

Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

Biden can't win. That is the problem.
 

Blackjack200

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Biden can't win. That is the problem.

I think he's a terribly weak candidate. But if, say, a million people are killed by this virus before the election? I suppose it's possible. The real problem is that we'll just be replacing a syphilitic psychopath with a right wing ideologue. A guy that said he would veto medicare for all if it passed congress, on the eve of a disastrous pandemic. It's an absolute fucking nightmare.
 

Jhhnn

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I think he's a terribly weak candidate. But if, say, a million people are killed by this virus before the election? I suppose it's possible. The real problem is that we'll just be replacing a syphilitic psychopath with a right wing ideologue. A guy that said he would veto medicare for all if it passed congress, on the eve of a disastrous pandemic. It's an absolute fucking nightmare.

Joe Biden is a right wing ideologue... Really?
 
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Joe Biden is a right wing ideologue... Really?

Not the term I'd use for him, not at all. Almost the exact opposite of of the truth.

But as far as I can see, the unique-selling-point he's repeatedly pushed is that he has 'good relationships' with Republicans, they all think he's a nice guy, and that he can 'work with them' to 'get things done'.

To me that suggests he's stuck in the past, and doesn't really see the world, and especially the Republican Party, as it is now. He's not going to get anything done. Very likely no other Democrat would either, but at least someone else might be able to motivate the population outside of Congress to try and change things. Biden seems to be all about the political establishment being friendly with each other and engaging in horse-trading to achieve things everyone can agree on, despite silly tribal partisanship. That just does not appear to be how politics is these days.
 

Jhhnn

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Not the term I'd use for him, not at all. Almost the exact opposite of of the truth.

But as far as I can see, the unique-selling-point he's repeatedly pushed is that he has 'good relationships' with Republicans, they all think he's a nice guy, and that he can 'work with them' to 'get things done'.

To me that suggests he's stuck in the past, and doesn't really see the world, and especially the Republican Party, as it is now. He's not going to get anything done. Very likely no other Democrat would either, but at least someone else might be able to motivate the population outside of Congress to try and change things. Biden seems to be all about the political establishment being friendly with each other and engaging in horse-trading to achieve things everyone can agree on, despite silly tribal partisanship. That just does not appear to be how politics is these days.

It's bait for swing voters. Joe understands GOP obstructionism first hand.
 
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Joe Biden is a right wing ideologue... Really?

Anyone who says something you disagree with at anytime (regardless of if it relates to politics or not) means you're of the opposite political party and an extremist at that.

Nevermind the fact that he is vocally liberal, stated he is voting for Bernie, and has mentioned his support multiple times.

Let's just ignore that... he is now... ALT RIGHT! MAGICALLY!
 

sandorski

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Denial doesn't look good on anybody. I's funny how "Fuck you, Libtards!" is a common refrain from Trumpsters & Bernie Bros alike.

You're right, denial doesn't look good. Now stop blaming others for Hillary's faults.
 
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Burisma crushes Joe Biden.
Anybody that thinks Hunter Biden's personal issue is an issue for Joe Biden is lying to themselves if they think this is a big deal, considering Trump's demonstrated personal and family corruption. It's the butter e-mails for 2020.
 
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Anybody that thinks Hunter Biden's personal issue is an issue for Joe Biden is lying to themselves if they think this is a big deal, considering Trump's demonstrated personal and family corruption. It's the butter e-mails for 2020.

You're asking people to look at things without bias. Most of them can't.
 

sandorski

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It's still not too late.


That said, Bernie stated what questions he'll want answered by Biden in the upcoming Debate. Bidens answers will determine if he has a chance.
 

Jhhnn

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Anyone who says something you disagree with at anytime (regardless of if it relates to politics or not) means you're of the opposite political party and an extremist at that.

Nevermind the fact that he is vocally liberal, stated he is voting for Bernie, and has mentioned his support multiple times.

Let's just ignore that... he is now... ALT RIGHT! MAGICALLY!

You're both cultists.
 

evident

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ll think he's a nice guy, and that he can 'work with them' to 'get things done'.

To me that suggests he's stuck in the past, and doesn't really see the world, and especially the Republican Party, as it is no
You got rose eyed glasses on if you think Joe will beat Trump.

Look at this:



Burisma crushes Joe Biden.
crushes more than someone who's self described as a Democratic Socialist and is unable to comprehend that there is a large swath of americans who cant understand his defense of Fidel Castro's universal health care and just label him as a communist?
 

sandorski

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crushes more than someone who's self described as a Democratic Socialist and is unable to comprehend that there is a large swath of americans who cant understand his defense of Fidel Castro's universal health care and just label him as a communist?

Obama also defended Castros healthcare system. It is widely regarded to be very good.
 
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Jhhnn

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You're asking people to look at things without bias. Most of them can't.

And you're pandering to those biases when you say Burisma crushes Biden. The GOP won't be able to squeeze that in sideways between the pandemic & the economy.
 

Jhhnn

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Obama also defended Castros healthcare system. It is widely regarded to be very good.

So what? he's not running for President. Bernie is clearly the preferred candidate of Trump, the GOP & their Russian friends. Which is not to speak poorly of Bernie at all. The slimy bastards know what they're doing & they figure Bernie will be easier to beat. That's why they lay off of him in the meanwhile & try to turn his supporters against their friends. They seem to have y'all pretty well dialed in, too.
 

sandorski

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So what? he's not running for President. Bernie is clearly the preferred candidate of Trump, the GOP & their Russian friends. Which is not to speak poorly of Bernie at all. The slimy bastards know what they're doing & they figure Bernie will be easier to beat. That's why they lay off of him in the meanwhile & try to turn his supporters against their friends. They seem to have y'all pretty well dialed in, too.

Baseless assertion. There is nothing clear about it.
 

Blackjack200

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Joe Biden is a right wing ideologue... Really?

Okay, let me adjust that: right wing operative. I don't know if his actual ideology is right wing or if he's just carrying slop for the CEOs and the 1%, but I also don't really care. The effect is the same.

Anyone who says something you disagree with at anytime (regardless of if it relates to politics or not) means you're of the opposite political party and an extremist at that.

Nevermind the fact that he is vocally liberal, stated he is voting for Bernie, and has mentioned his support multiple times.

Let's just ignore that... he is now... ALT RIGHT! MAGICALLY!

Words are pretty, I prefer to look at a man's record.
 
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You're both cultists.

Words are pretty, I prefer to look at a man's record.

And what from his "record" has insinuated that he is alt right?

Go on. Do tell.




Except you fucking won't because you're clearly the ones in the cult robe here. There is someone somewhere that doesn't have your EXACT narrow-minded point of view - and some shit liberal media told you he's an alt-right klansmen so you will forever die on the hill asserting that.

Pathetic. You're the living reason why our country is fucked beyond partisan belief.
 
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