AOC Fights For Her Voters - Oh Wait - I mean for Party Loyalty Bonus'

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dank69

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Have they tried to? Have they held a vote?

Did they try or attempt to see if they can do it through reconciliation?


Are you starting to realize or at least gets some hints as to how they have manipulated you to think tribaly when the reality is from within?
Yes Manchin has stated clearly that he does not support ending the filibuster. Not sure how they could pass it via reconciliation. Please show your work if you think it is possible.
 
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Yes Manchin has stated clearly that he does not support ending the filibuster. Not sure how they could pass it via reconciliation. Please show your work if you think it is possible.

Saying and doing are 2 very different things. Put up M4A as a vote - that the country AS A WHOLE almost 80% supports. Find out who has the balls to vote no.

It's just an excuse to keep it from putting it to the floor.

Please show your work - what stops Democrats from doing the items I listed above? (Holding a vote on lifting filibuster, doing it through reconciliation, etc...)
 

dank69

Lifer
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Saying and doing are 2 very different things. Put up M4A as a vote - that the country AS A WHOLE almost 80% supports. Find out who has the balls to vote no.

It's just an excuse to keep it from putting it to the floor.

Please show your work - what stops Democrats from doing the items I listed above? (Holding a vote on lifting filibuster, doing it through reconciliation, etc...)
They can't put it to a floor vote when Republicans filibuster, derp. That's the point of the filibuster.
 

nakedfrog

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Policy wise? I struggle to think of much. Like you stated - she is over-dramatic on everything, which really just results in the partisan gridlock we know and love today. Yet she once ran on and advocated for criticizing her own party - which is one of the best ways to actually bring about change....But has since clearly learned to stay in line and never question party authority now.

So that's something I can compliment her on - originally she wasn't too much of a wus to actually call out and challenge the party establishment. I think we need more of that in life across the board is self-criticism of your party. The political parties are precisely the reason that shit doesn't get done. Since then, however, she has quickly followed in-line with them like a good little girl as evidenced by the tweet/story I posted above.

Always blaming republicans for why they haven't passed medicare for all or a public option - when she knows full well that it can be done right now within their own party.
 
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Put up M4A as a vote - that the country AS A WHOLE almost 80% supports.
This is factually inaccurate, and people wave this around like some truism. M4A is poorly defined as a real policy in the public mind. Support drops dramatically when you start to tell participants that they won't be able to buy private insurance and whatnot.
 

nakedfrog

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This is factually inaccurate, and people wave this around like some truism. M4A is poorly defined as a real policy in the public mind. Support drops dramatically when you start to tell participants that they won't be able to buy private insurance and whatnot.
Don't they also have private healthcare insurance in Canada, Germany, and England?
 
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Don't they also have private healthcare insurance in Canada, Germany, and England?
All those systems are different than the Sanders M4A policy and from each other. Also, the Sanders plan was basically going to ban most private coverage for things the government would cover.

If I recall:
Canada's system doesn't allow private coverage of items covered by the public plan. Prescription drug coverage varies by province, and frequently requires supplemental private insurance. However, drug costs are kept lower by government involvement in pricing.

The UK has a single-payer and state run healthcare delivery system. But there are also private alternatives available.

Germany had a system much like an ACA on steroids. I believe most of the private insurers are not-for-profit entities. Again, prices are kept down by heavy government involvement.
 

HomerJS

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I should start a poll which would be the most benefit to the country if they were kicked out of Congress, AOC or MTG

For myself MTG gets jettisoned 100% of the time
 

cytg111

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Saying and doing are 2 very different things. Put up M4A as a vote - that the country AS A WHOLE almost 80% supports. Find out who has the balls to vote no.

It's just an excuse to keep it from putting it to the floor.

Please show your work - what stops Democrats from doing the items I listed above? (Holding a vote on lifting filibuster, doing it through reconciliation, etc...)
I think I get it. This idiot has convinced himself he is red pilled. Its in the realm of conspiracies, rejecting all that was, part Q part awake.... common for all these morons is lack of motive... what possible reason should dems have to play charade.
 

MrSquished

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I should start a poll which would be the most benefit to the country if they were kicked out of Congress, AOC or MTG

For myself MTG gets jettisoned 100% of the time

The Auschwitz Mueseum put out a statement basically directed at MTG

""The instrumentalization of the tragedy of Jews who suffered, were humiliated, marked with a yellow star, isolated in ghettos & murdered during the Holocaust, in a debate on different systems that aim at protecting public health is a sad symptom of moral and intellectual decline." "
 

Fenixgoon

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The Auschwitz Mueseum put out a statement basically directed at MTG

""The instrumentalization of the tragedy of Jews who suffered, were humiliated, marked with a yellow star, isolated in ghettos & murdered during the Holocaust, in a debate on different systems that aim at protecting public health is a sad symptom of moral and intellectual decline." "
I wish they had gone for the jugular instead of being polite about calling out MTG
 
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nakedfrog

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lol Now AOC is the entire reason a SUPER Fund of $1.9 BILLION was given to capitol police.

The squad were the sole reason this bill passed. Gotta stay within the confines. What was that about defund the police? We meant SUPER FUND the police lol.

Oh, was she? Were they?
Democratic Reps. Cori Bush (MO), Ilhan Omar (MN), and Ayanna Pressley (MA) voted against the legislation; Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY), Jamaal Bowman (NY), and Rashida Tlaib (MI), voted present, which means they officially took no position.
 

Pohemi

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I wasn't aware that mental handicaps and/or learning disabilites could be a progressive/regressive disorder, but @s0me0nesRetarded gives us solid evidence every week.

Each post he makes...you think he can't get any more crazy or stupid...

...until he makes another comment and proves you wrong.
 
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woolfe9998

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lol Now AOC is the entire reason a SUPER Fund of $1.9 BILLION was given to capitol police.

The squad were the sole reason this bill passed. Gotta stay within the confines. What was that about defund the police? We meant SUPER FUND the police lol.


How is one rep who abstained on the vote "the entire reason?" Did you read your own article?
 
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Pohemi

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Did you read your own article?
Does the dumb c*nt ever actually read the articles he links? Seems more like he bases his idiotic opinions and beliefs on conservative clickbait headlines, without actually delving into the article or story.

How else do you explain him ALWAYS being wrong, dishonest, etc.?
 
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nakedfrog

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Are you having problems with math? The entire reason it passed is because they voted neutral... Which I'll remind you - AOC essentially said only pussies vote neutral lol. What a fucking moron that can't even live up to her own words

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Nope, no problems with math here!
 

woolfe9998

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Are you having problems with math? The entire reason it passed is because they voted neutral... Which I'll remind you - AOC essentially said only pussies vote neutral lol. What a fucking moron that can't even live up to her own words

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The bill passed by one vote. Meaning each and every person who voted for it is, separately, the "entire reason" for it passing, according to your "logic." How many different "entire reasons" can there be, nitwit? I feel confident the light bulb in your head will turn on, if however briefly, one of these days.