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SpatiallyAware

SpatiallyAware

Lifer
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This idea is not working.

There are way too many conversations going on at one time. If one or two, or three people don't like oldgamer they need to ignore him and not click on the posts, not try to silence him via manipulating the way things have worked (and worked well) for a number of years.

If oldgamer wants a soapbox, let him make a thread and post in there all the time. But to force everyone to do it not beneficial to healthy debate.

I vote to do away with this mess of a thread. I can see how it would seem like a good idea but it's not working.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2381549
 
Oldgamer

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I originally had asked for it, because I was trying to be amenable and calm feathers that seemed to be ruffled. I would be more than happy to limit my police misconduct threads to say 3 a week. If that makes everyone happy. Up to the mods though, on how they want to handle this.
 
MongGrel

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I still like having it there, but just some seem aware of it existing now and then.

Might need a sticky like someone mentioned.
 
SlickSnake

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The solution would be an additional sub forum called Law Enforcement News or something to that effect sticked at the top of P&N so the separate news links could be managed when added. This should be easy to do, but would require administrative forum access to implement, I'm sure. Because otherwise fracturing off yet another sub forum into it's own separate social category would mean fewer people would ever visit and it wouldn't be worthwhile having.

And the current title of Police Misconduct Thread is a bit misleading and disingenuous to say the least. On many of these news articles we only have one point of view, and not the police point of view at all. So while it may appear to be misconduct in some cases, that is certainly not true for all the cases.
 
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SpatiallyAware

SpatiallyAware

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With respect to old gamer, the problems revolved around people who had personal and political issues with him. Since his posts were within the rules of the forum, it was tough to do anything to quell the shrieks of the people complaining.

I believe this police thread was perk and other mods way of trying to make everyone happy.

Barring old gamers fling of posts over the past few months it hasn't been an issue.

So what next, a separate forum for gun posts, obamacare, etc etc etc?

My personal opinion is that the forums and subforums are fine. It was an isolated incident. Old gamer agreeing to 3 posts a week about cops is very fair. Let's go back to how the way it's been for years, the existing method worked fine.
 
fleshconsumed

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Not sure if this is the right place to say so, but I would also like to second (or third or whatever) the motion to go to the old way of posting a separate thread for each instance of police misconduct.

Mashing everything into one thread makes it extremely difficult to follow the conversation. After a while it is impossible to keep track of who is replying to what news story and thus it greately stiffles the converstion. I personally feel I cannot reply to anyone because I do not know what story they are commenting on. It's a mess. I also believe keeping everything in one thread sweeps the police misconduct problem under the rug because it is no longer visible unless you go inside the one and only thread. To be frank I was a little bit annoyed at sometimes seeing several police threads on the first page, however, the blame on that one rests directly on the policemen who abuse their authority, and if anything we should address the problem head on instead of making it invisible.

Point being, having one thread is horrible. We need to go to the old way of posting one thread for every news story.

Now, what moderator do I bug to make it happen?
 
fleshconsumed

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Bump, the one and only thread is intolerable. It is impossible to have any kind of discussion in it because it is too difficult to keep track of all the stories in one thread.
 
shira

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I completely agree that the unified police misconduct thread is unworkable.

If the "principle" underlying consolidating similar issues in a single thread is applied to other areas, then we should have a single "Climate Change" thread, a single "Obamacare" thread, a single "Rape in India" thread, and so on.

In other words, this "principle" is obviously so idiotic that it would kill ATPN.

I vote that we grit our teeth and allow separate threads for separate events. If a particular thread is too similar to (or actually repeats) another one, the Administrator can combine threads as needed.
 
SlickSnake

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Apparently, there are paid internet shills who are affiliated with questionable law enforcement groups who want illegal police misconduct problems to disappear from the internet. And to further their militarized police state agenda and pro authority brainwashing they are actively targeting websites and forums that they think are somehow against their illegal abuses of authority. And now it also appears that these forums and website are being targeted by them as well.

I found this link by doing searches for just this sort of shill activity, and this article pretty much nails it. Ultimately, it's up to the mods here to discuss this and decide if they are willing to be manipulated in this manner for an obvious agenda to squelch free speech about these ongoing law enforcement misdeeds.

Privileged Purveyors of State Violence Seek to Ban -- Or Cage --Their Critics


http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=47755
 
justoh

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fleshconsumed said:
Bump, the one and only thread is intolerable. It is impossible to have any kind of discussion in it because it is too difficult to keep track of all the stories in one thread.
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I think this should have been obvious, and if we intend the ordinary consequences of our actions, then it's probably working as intended. Just saying. deleted previous comment because I didn't realize where I was posting. Maybe it makes the forum look bad to have multiple police misconduct threads. Certainly couldn't have been done to facilitate discussion.
 
SlickSnake

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Oldgamer said:
wow, this facebook page is particularly alarming: https://www.facebook.com/nightofbluelights
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You mean this one? https://www.facebook.com/stopthecophaters

The page you listed is a lot more tame as far as media spin propaganda goes.

And it's refreshing to see the not so subtle irony about how they view their jobs in many of their posts there.

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SpatiallyAware

SpatiallyAware

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SlickSnake said:
Apparently, there are paid internet shills who are affiliated with questionable law enforcement groups who want illegal police misconduct problems to disappear from the internet. And to further their militarized police state agenda and pro authority brainwashing they are actively targeting websites and forums that they think are somehow against their illegal abuses of authority. And now it also appears that these forums and website are being targeted by them as well.

I found this link by doing searches for just this sort of shill activity, and this article pretty much nails it. Ultimately, it's up to the mods here to discuss this and decide if they are willing to be manipulated in this manner for an obvious agenda to squelch free speech about these ongoing law enforcement misdeeds.

Privileged Purveyors of State Violence Seek to Ban -- Or Cage --Their Critics


http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=47755
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For what it's worth, I think it has more to do with politics within AT.

Knowing Perk and the crew, I find it highly unlikely that some new random shill is going to make something like this happen.

It probably went down very similar to the trayvon/dunn/pro-bicycle situations.. A couple of the high post count vocal users PM each other and orchestrate to harass the mods via reporting posts until they get their way.

From the mod perspective, it probably appears as though this is what the community wants... The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so to speak.



Either way, it feels very orwellian to me. Clearly this is stifling free and open debate due to the political opinions of a select few based on overposting by a single solitary person.
 
Perknose

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Just came upon this thread, boyz. I will take this to the Admin level for consideration, as I do feel good points have been made here. :thumbsup:
 
Perknose

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The people have spoken, and I, your beneficent Olympian Overlord, in concert with the assemblage of ascended mortals (the mods), have graciously granted your petition.

Perknose
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Oldgamer

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Perknose said:
The people have spoken, and I, your beneficent Olympian Overlord, in concert with the assemblage of ascended mortals (the mods), have graciously granted your petition.

Perknose
Forum Director
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LOL just saw this! Ok good news!
 
highland145

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SpatiallyAware said:
You need to put people on ignore rather than try to stifle open debate.

There are plenty of topics that we all individually don't care for. Do what the rest of us do - ignore them.
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True. I was feeling a bit pissy and probably should apologize.
 
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