Anything better than PCP&C Silencer 750 for $200?

John

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Isn't "better" subjective? I'd take a $200 720W Infiniti over the Silencer 750. The smaller size and modular cables appeal to me, and 56A on the 12V rail is no slouch.
 

LOUISSSSS

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hmm thanks for the deals guys...

any other $200 psu's you'd recommend me use over the silencer?
 

JEDIYoda

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There are quite a few nice power supplies on the market...
Th PC Power & Cooling is definately one of them!!
 

LOUISSSSS

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yea.. i currently have a FSP Epsilon 600 watt... its doing fine, but the 120mm fan is on the bottom of the psu and pulling a lot of dust in from the carpet from my lian li v1000 case

which is why i kind of prefer the silencer's 80mm front-back design
 

classy

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No offense, but are you kidding? Your going to spend $200 because of dust. Why not buy a pc stand, a $10 mat, or even a small desk for $50 to put the pc on up off the floor. Or better yet, clean your carpet ;). But seriously if you spend $200 because of the reason you gave, its uber stupid. :)
 

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Why not just flip the PSU the other way so that it pulls air from the case rather than from the bottom vent?
 

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Flip the PSU so the fan is pointing up. You shouldn't have the fan pointing down in that case.

If you feel you have to get a PSU with 80MM cooling, consider the SilverStone Zeus 750 or 850W or the Olympia 1000W. All superior to the Silencer and less money.
 

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How exactly is the ST75ZF superior to the Silencer 750Q? The ST75ZF doesn't have as many sleeved cables, no 8-pin PCIe connectors, has quad 12V rails, and it's not quite as efficient at 20-80% loads.
 

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I am not 100% sure about this. But, if you have an intake fan in the bottom chamber, you should have positive pressure in there. You could block the holes at the bottom of the case right under the PSU with Scotch tape if you want to as long as there is enough space under the PSU (1"). Is there?
 

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Originally posted by: John
How exactly is the ST75ZF superior to the Silencer 750Q? The ST75ZF doesn't have as many sleeved cables, no 8-pin PCIe connectors, has quad 12V rails, and it's not quite as efficient at 20-80% loads.

Over all build quality of Etasis over Seasonic is like night and day. Not that Seasonic is bad, but you can't exactly call them "server grade." And the newest revision of the Zeus does have fully sleeved cables and an 8-pin PCI-e and the actual efficiency of the two are not too far from each other.

EDIT: Sorry, emailed SilverStone and they said they did sleeve all of the cables, but didn't go to the 8-pin PCI-e on these units because, and I quote, "these are Nvidia SLI certified units."
 

John

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Thanks for the update on the Zeus cabling. I wonder why Silverstone's site doesn't reflect the changes?
 

LOUISSSSS

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thanks guys. i'll take a look at those. but when i get some time i'll probably just flip the psu around. not an easy job tho since i gotta disconnect all my wires (they're tired up).
 

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Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: John
How exactly is the ST75ZF superior to the Silencer 750Q? The ST75ZF doesn't have as many sleeved cables, no 8-pin PCIe connectors, has quad 12V rails, and it's not quite as efficient at 20-80% loads.

Over all build quality of Etasis over Seasonic is like night and day. Not that Seasonic is bad, but you can't exactly call them "server grade." And the newest revision of the Zeus does have fully sleeved cables and an 8-pin PCI-e and the actual efficiency of the two are not too far from each other.

EDIT: Sorry, emailed SilverStone and they said they did sleeve all of the cables, but didn't go to the 8-pin PCI-e on these units because, and I quote, "these are Nvidia SLI certified units."



I have Purchased a few (10) of these Units, And they are an excellent PSU and is very well appointed.

I usually sell them to my Clients that are bent on The Corsair 620 watt. This PSU is way better, and the clients have never regretted my push in the right direction.

SILVERSTONE ST75F ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply

Silverstone has done their homework for thirty bucks less...than the PCP&C... economy of performance is everything.
Save that same amount a few times and you can step-up an item in your build.

I love the Modular Construction.... This PSU is an Enhance in Silverstone Clothing.

Hard Wired PSU's are a real Pain.. I have a Small Pile of them here all work, but have broken wires.

PCP&C/OCZ will have to make-up a very good "Steaming Pile" for me to ever head back...

PCP&C had it's heyday... then the industry changed in 3 years to a very quality oriented customer focused market segment, but now you need to sort out the BS and Let the chips fall where they do.







 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Mr Fox
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: John
How exactly is the ST75ZF superior to the Silencer 750Q? The ST75ZF doesn't have as many sleeved cables, no 8-pin PCIe connectors, has quad 12V rails, and it's not quite as efficient at 20-80% loads.

Over all build quality of Etasis over Seasonic is like night and day. Not that Seasonic is bad, but you can't exactly call them "server grade." And the newest revision of the Zeus does have fully sleeved cables and an 8-pin PCI-e and the actual efficiency of the two are not too far from each other.

EDIT: Sorry, emailed SilverStone and they said they did sleeve all of the cables, but didn't go to the 8-pin PCI-e on these units because, and I quote, "these are Nvidia SLI certified units."



I have Purchased a few (10) of these Units, And they are an excellent PSU and is very well appointed.

I usually sell them to my Clients that are bent on The Corsair 620 watt. This PSU is way better, and the clients have never regretted my push in the right direction.

SILVERSTONE ST75F ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply

Silverstone has done their homework for thirty bucks less...than the PCP&C... economy of performance is everything.
Save that same amount a few times and you can step-up an item in your build.

I love the Modular Construction.... This PSU is an Enhance in Silverstone Clothing.

Hard Wired PSU's are a real Pain.. I have a Small Pile of them here all work, but have broken wires.

PCP&C/OCZ will have to make-up a very good "Steaming Pile" for me to ever head back...

PCP&C had it's heyday... then the industry changed in 3 years to a very quality oriented customer focused market segment, but now you need to sort out the BS and Let the chips fall where they do.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...wxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The Bottom Line



After the last PC Power & Cooling product we reviewed we were concerned that PC Power & Cooling may have fallen from grace but while the Turbo-Cool line has stagnated the Silencer line has come into its own. The Silencer 750 Quad combines very good performance, and transient response, with amazing DC output quality and packages all of it in a unit that is uncharacteristically good looking for a PC Power & Cooling product. In the end the PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire may not be an unbeatable value at $199.99 but it is probably the closest thing to it in the consumer market.


The PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire Edition is one of the best high-end computer power supplies we have had grace our test bench in terms of power performance and overall build. Do be aware though it does not stand up to its ?Silencer? name and would not be welcome in something akin to an HTPC build. The Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire Edition is perfectly at home in a high-end CrossFire gaming rig and the Ferrari red color certainly has a coolness factor that leaves other power supplies in the dust!!
 

GalvanizedYankee

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The ST75F http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=43 is in responce to the pimping of pcp&c. The ST60F is a very good unit but the stretch of platform to reach 850W in the ST85F was too much and that unit is not to be recommended.
The Strider units have short cable set avalible for those that are working with small cases. This is prolly the only advantage of being full modular (including the ATX 24 pin).

Note: In the linked review above, Paul considers the Silencer 750 to be a very good consumer grade PSU and is not to be considered server grade, they are two different animals. Etasis and Zippy build server grade units...If that is of any importance to the reader.
 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Mr Fox
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: John
How exactly is the ST75ZF superior to the Silencer 750Q? The ST75ZF doesn't have as many sleeved cables, no 8-pin PCIe connectors, has quad 12V rails, and it's not quite as efficient at 20-80% loads.

Over all build quality of Etasis over Seasonic is like night and day. Not that Seasonic is bad, but you can't exactly call them "server grade." And the newest revision of the Zeus does have fully sleeved cables and an 8-pin PCI-e and the actual efficiency of the two are not too far from each other.

EDIT: Sorry, emailed SilverStone and they said they did sleeve all of the cables, but didn't go to the 8-pin PCI-e on these units because, and I quote, "these are Nvidia SLI certified units."



I have Purchased a few (10) of these Units, And they are an excellent PSU and is very well appointed.

I usually sell them to my Clients that are bent on The Corsair 620 watt. This PSU is way better, and the clients have never regretted my push in the right direction.

SILVERSTONE ST75F ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply

Silverstone has done their homework for thirty bucks less...than the PCP&C... economy of performance is everything.
Save that same amount a few times and you can step-up an item in your build.

I love the Modular Construction.... This PSU is an Enhance in Silverstone Clothing.

Hard Wired PSU's are a real Pain.. I have a Small Pile of them here all work, but have broken wires.

PCP&C/OCZ will have to make-up a very good "Steaming Pile" for me to ever head back...

PCP&C had it's heyday... then the industry changed in 3 years to a very quality oriented customer focused market segment, but now you need to sort out the BS and Let the chips fall where they do.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...wxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The Bottom Line



After the last PC Power & Cooling product we reviewed we were concerned that PC Power & Cooling may have fallen from grace but while the Turbo-Cool line has stagnated the Silencer line has come into its own. The Silencer 750 Quad combines very good performance, and transient response, with amazing DC output quality and packages all of it in a unit that is uncharacteristically good looking for a PC Power & Cooling product. In the end the PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire may not be an unbeatable value at $199.99 but it is probably the closest thing to it in the consumer market.


The PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire Edition is one of the best high-end computer power supplies we have had grace our test bench in terms of power performance and overall build. Do be aware though it does not stand up to its ?Silencer? name and would not be welcome in something akin to an HTPC build. The Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire Edition is perfectly at home in a high-end CrossFire gaming rig and the Ferrari red color certainly has a coolness factor that leaves other power supplies in the dust!!






A Modular Supply allows Build Flexibility, and Minimizes Clutter.

A Modular Supply allows Replacement of Broken or Cracked Wires in a Simple Manner.

PCP&C has gone so far to entrench them self into a Line Of Crap that a Modular Design can Fail, and lose power. I have yet to see any supporting evidence that gives that supposition any weight.

The Bottom Line ... Until PCP&C Comes out with a Modular Design........ They are a waste of Time, Not Of Value.

Unfortunately They are"The Oldsmobile" of Power Supplies now.

We can only hope that they don't suffer the same fate.



 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
The ST75F http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=43 is in responce to the pimping of pcp&c. The ST60F is a very good unit but the stretch of platform to reach 850W in the ST85F was too much and that unit is not to be recommended.
The Strider units have short cable set avalible for those that are working with small cases. This is prolly the only advantage of being full modular (including the ATX 24 pin).

Note: In the linked review above, Paul considers the Silencer 750 to be a very good consumer grade PSU and is not to be considered server grade, they are two different animals. Etasis and Zippy build server grade units...If that is of any importance to the reader.

define server grade vs consumer grade......
But YES--stasis and Zippy do build server grade units...
But the new Zippy offering i would bet is NOT server grade, more likely it`s consumer grade and as such we will have to wait and see once the reviews start pooring in..
besides Anands review which states--
So what sort of people would buy this kind of power supply? It will surely not be the silence enthusiasts or those looking to build a decent HTPC, and neither will it be somebody building a PC for the living room that will run 24/7. Those who would be willing to buy this power supply and stomach the high buying price will need to be real performance enthusiasts that don't care about noise. If you want a stable and reliable power supply that will perform well under just about any circumstances, the Zippy G1 is worth a look. In most other areas, it unfortunately falls short.

or--
With their gaming series Zippy has made a first attempt at catering to the retail market and created a hybrid power supply that sits somewhere between gaming and server needs. It ends up not quite satisfying either market, and it needs a lot of tweaking before it can become a true gaming power supply that we can fully recommend.

Sounds sort of like what was said about the turbo cool on another forum.....

Peace!!!