Is there any info out there as to the release of the 8900 or the successor to the 2900 (maybe a 65nm version of it). Specifically will either be out this august. I intend to upgrade my 7800gtx soon, and I am building a secondary pc with some older parts but I need a pci express gpu for it so it is more efficient for me to put my 7800gtx in that box (it wont be used for much gaming) and buy a new card, then to buy a 8500/2400 or ... card for that box and then buy my new card in a few months. So if a refresh for either ati/nvidia might happen in august I will wait otherwise I will have to rethink my options.