Anyone watching Victims of Ferguson?

Mai72

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It's heartbreaking. Hannity is interviewing a group of local business people who have had their lives upended last week. Businesses burned down to the ground. Employees out of work. Lives ruined.

Where were the National Guard?

What about Al Sharpton?

The governor dropped the ball.

Obama? No backbone.

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lxskllr

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People are retarded. I'm a "protester"

"Fuck the man!"

"Now, I'll shit in my bed. That'll show 'em!"
 

Mai72

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People are retarded. I'm a "protester"

"Fuck the man!"

"Now, I'll shit in my bed. That'll show 'em!"

The people who were looting and burning down businesses are criminals. The business owners on Hannity's show are mostly black. These aren't white owners.

50 National Guard should have been put in front of each businesses. What's sad is small business owners took the brunt of the riots.

Target wasn't burned down.
Walmart wasn't burned down.

My parents were small business owners for 25-30 years. I know how difficult it is to be a business owner. You pour your blood, sweat and tears into your business. It's very hard work with long hours.

Finally, Obama doesn't have a backbone. He's so worried that he's going to upset people that he always takes the muddle ground. Charles Barkley's response was blunt and correct.
 

lxskllr

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.
 

zerocool84

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.

It has nothing to do with big government, it has everything to do with the local law enforcement not protecting their citizens. They reacted way too harshly before and were criticized and decide to do nothing this time and it bit them in the ass.
 

Svnla

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.

Do we have a speech from Obama "if I have a small business" yet? LOL.

As I said before in another thread, better have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Also, those that ignored history (LA riot, Katrina, etc.) are doomed to repeat it.

<<<--- is counting on Mr. Glock and Mr. Hornady HP for short range and Mr. AR15 for long range.
 

lxskllr

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It has nothing to do with big government, it has everything to do with the local law enforcement not protecting their citizens. They reacted way too harshly before and were criticized and decide to do nothing this time and it bit them in the ass.

It has everything to do with government. I know the cops act like a rogue force, but I do believe they are under governmental control.
 

LegendKiller

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.

The liberal dependency machine has created this. They are reaping what they sow. They made guns unpopular and are now making those who defend those without guns unpopular while stoking racial fears.

Chicago is a perfect example. The place is a liberal shithole but liberals just love it to death. Look how well their disarming and creation of distrust of the cops has done, you get hundreds of murders a year. The twitterhead hipsters perpetuate it.
 
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zerocool84

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It has everything to do with government. I know the cops act like a rogue force, but I do believe they are under governmental control.

You specifically said big government which I said it has nothing to do with big government, it's just government.
 

lxskllr

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You specifically said big government which I said it has nothing to do with big government, it's just government.

Shit piles don't get better the more you pile on. "Sit down, shut up, and let us take care of you" doesn't work regardless of government size.

They had one job to do, and they didn't do it. It's the *only* job everyone expects from their government. It doesn't get any better at the federal level; just more expensive.
 

mmntech

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.

They shouldn't have to. We're supposed to live in a civilized society, not the bloody wild west.

And it most certainly won't be a wake up call. In the eyes of the socialists, it only confirms their beliefs. They don't really care about those small business owners, because they lump them in the same camp as the big corporate thugs. Doesn't matter if their livelihood is ruined. Doesn't matter their employees are now out of work because the shop can't open. They're all the "man" and in some twisted way, they deserved it.

There's a culture of entitlement in these communities. If they want something, they take it. To hell with the repercussions, because society owes a debt to them. I want those cigars, I'm taking them, you owe me. I don't want to go to school, you owe me. Take care of my illegitimate children, you owe me. Pay me money for sitting on my ass all day, you owe me. The naive socialists eat this bullshit up like it's chocolate ice cream. At best they're enabling this behavior, at worst profiting off it. Everybody loses in the end.

It's not to say that policing in America doesn't have issues, and there aren't bad/trigger happy cops out there. It's a big issue that needs to be tacked. Especially in the post 9/11, post PATRIOT ACT world. However, taking your anger with the cops out on innocent people makes you the greater villain.
 

Ruptga

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Wrong forum, retard.

"The news makes me angry, so I'm going to shit in my OT forum, that'll show em."
 

PliotronX

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The business owners should have defended their own businesses. You can't rely on anyone but yourself. The government fucked up the one job that's clearly within their purview(defense against threats within and without). It should be a wakeup call for the big government fanboys.

Yup, same thing happened in LA. Cops stay away because they are the target, leaving the law abiding to fend for themselves. The only stores that didnt get hit were owners posted on roofs with AK47s. When guns are eventually regulated to the point of equivalent bans in CA, I shudder to think what will happen if a mass looti...er riot happens again.
 

blankslate

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They shouldn't have to. We're supposed to live in a civilized society, not the bloody wild west.

Yes... but police are gunning down people like it's the wild west.

And it most certainly won't be a wake up call. In the eyes of the socialists, it only confirms their beliefs. They don't really care about those small business owners, because they lump them in the same camp as the big corporate thugs. Doesn't matter if their livelihood is ruined. Doesn't matter their employees are now out of work because the shop can't open. They're all the "man" and in some twisted way, they deserved it.

Sorry, no we recognize that the really bad corporate entities like Walmart come in and undercut small business owners until they go out of business which is bad for the community in general. However, people don't care in general because they're saving and long term thinking isn't something that is valued very much in today's society.

Meanwhile conservatives are happy to push for more tax breaks for these "job creators" who have no compunction about paying their workers so little they qualify for Federal benefits. Then conservatives conveniently ignore the fact that the taxpayer subsidizes the labor expenses of companies like Walmart by supporting the workers who need those benefits...



The issue that needs to be corrected is the fact that a local DA who works with the local Ferguson police department guided the grand jury to the conclusion he wanted them to reach. In police shootings like the one in Ferguson there should be an investigation by law enforcement officers who don't know the people in the Police Department involved and a DA from way out of town should convene the grand jury to determine if an indictment is called for.


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Orignal Earl

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In Ferguson, black residents stand guard at white-owned store

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/26/us-usa-missouri-shooting-gasstation-idUSKCN0JA1XF20141126


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Svnla

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Where are all the marching, yelling, and screaming lasting for weeks/months for justice for these TRUE INNOCENT victims? Where is the investigation for civil rights violation from Holden/DoJ for these hard working folks? Where is "If I have a small business/If I am a small business owner" speech from BO? Where is CNN special about them?
 

bononos

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The liberal dependency machine has created this. They are reaping what they sow. They made guns unpopular and are now making those who defend those without guns unpopular while stoking racial fears.

Chicago is a perfect example. The place is a liberal shithole but liberals just love it to death. Look how well their disarming and creation of distrust of the cops has done, you get hundreds of murders a year. The twitterhead hipsters perpetuate it.

C'mon this is ridiculous, Ferguson is a mess because the town's police were harrassing primarily black residents with to balance their books. The police force in Ferguson and the surrounding counties are primarily geared towards collecting revenue instead of promoting public safety.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12711
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-ferguson-crisis-20140821-column.html

Then when the press showed up, they got blocked from reaching areas they wanted to cover, beaten, had their equipment taken, threatened with arrest....
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6043247/ferguson-police-media-harassment
 

Svnla

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Probably holed up somewhere dark, spitting on a computer screen

You mean the computers/goodies that were looted from the burned down/destroyed businesses that owned and operated by INNOCENT folks that have nothing to do the Brown's death? :D

Now, STOP following me and licking my butthole like welshbloke. Why don't you two start licking each other butthole, ok? Perfect fit for each other.

I am telling you now as I told him, ignore you in this thread. Next!!! LOL.
 
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Orignal Earl

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You mean the computers/goodies that were looted from the burned down/destroy businesses? :D

Now, STOP following me and licking my butthole like welshbloke. Why don't you two start licking each other butthole, ok? Perfect fit for each other.

I am telling you now as I told him, ignore you in this thread. Next!!!

Your very paranoid, I suggest wrapping your arse with tinfoil
 

LegendKiller

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C'mon this is ridiculous, Ferguson is a mess because the town's police were harrassing primarily black residents with to balance their books. The police force in Ferguson and the surrounding counties are primarily geared towards collecting revenue instead of promoting public safety.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12711
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-ferguson-crisis-20140821-column.html

Then when the press showed up, they got blocked from reaching areas they wanted to cover, beaten, had their equipment taken, threatened with arrest....
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6043247/ferguson-police-media-harassment

You know how you don't get arrested?


DONT BREAK THE FUCKING LAW.

Your second article highlights this reporting problem perfectly. The claim was that Michael Brown was originally stopped for jaywalking. 1. He wasn't stopped and was told to get back on the sidewalk. 2. He was walking down the middle of the fucking road like he owned the world. 3. He had just robbed a store. Had he listened he would have been just fine, but no, he had to be a badass.

But no, some fucking liberal reporter has to make it seem like this was just another police harassment. Just part of the narrative that excuses and supports poor behavior.
 
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schmuckley

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Where was the National Guard?
I tell ya what..I've been through some riots..
..and if you were out out after curfew and looting..chances are good you would be shot by a black National Guardsman around here.They were on every block.
I say Governor fail in that state.
Remember that if you live in MO and it's Governor election time.
 

Londo_Jowo

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You know how you don't get arrested?

DONT BREAK THE FUCKING LAW.

Yes, without a doubt. It doesn't take much intelligence to realize such either.

I was taught the following when I was growing up as well.

I was taught if you're being arrested do not resist, once you have been read your rights do not wave any of these rights, do not volunteer any information, and wait until you have a lawyer present before answering any questions.
 

theeedude

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I am waiting for "Victims of Staten Island" and the sob tales of the killer cops who throw people in jail for selling loose cigarettes "obstructing pedestrian traffic," but expect to be able to kill Americans with impunity.