Anyone watching Eric holders press conference on ferguson?

[waggy]

The irony is kind of thick, a racist like Holder discussing accusations of racism in that PD....

perhaps.

BUT after reading the findings there is little doubt that the PD did some illegal things to people ONLY because of the color of their skin.

 

[fskimospy]

The individual incidents listed should be re-examined.

But the Al Sharpton & Co. solution of targeting a scape-goat and putting him on trial and convicting him in at a minimum the court of public opinion for the total sum of all injustices, especially when you cannot even pin one injustice on the individual, in my opinion is a more troubling reality.

And the protester solution of looting, vandalizing, and burning buildings to the ground, also is a more troubling reality.

This situation has always been about which version of reality do you find least offensive, and also does the truth of a particular incident even matter or is all the intermediary injustice and destruction acceptable in the pursuit of a greater good.

I'm not convinced solving one problem by creating another problem is progress.

It appears the DOJ is handling this fairly well so far, we'll see how this proceeds.

Why is injustice towards one presumably innocent person at one time more troubling to you than ongoing injustice against hundreds or thousands of innocent people?

 

[Vic]

Ferguson is just one of hundreds of little shit hole towns in this country with poor tax bases that use their corrupt police to shake down revenue.
We all know the kind: shuttered businesses, homes sell for less than new cars, half the population is on food stamps and/or welfare and the other half is on social security, but the cops are outfitted like soldiers in Afghanistan.

 

[DCal430]

WOW, how can we doubt that the killing of Mike Brown wasn't race related. This officers was one of the people who targeted black for abuse.

A thug with a badge goes around abusing blacks and ends up killing one whose is unarmed while pleading for his life, and we believe he nonsense story of being attacked. He was the attacker, he went around targeting blacks for abuse and decided he wanted to kill one, and mike brown was he latest victim. I wouldn't be surprised if he murdered others and got away with it.

 

[Svnla]

WOW, how can we doubt that the killing of Mike Brown wasn't race related. This officers was one of the people who targeted black for abuse.

A thug with a badge goes around abusing blacks and ends up killing one whose is unarmed while pleading for his life, and we believe he nonsense story of being attacked. He was the attacker, he went around targeting blacks for abuse and decided he wanted to kill one, and mike brown was he latest victim. I wouldn't be surprised if he murdered others and got away with it.

Still believe in the big lie of "hands up, don't shoot" eh? Read the DOJ report and there was NO such thing. :thumbsdown:

Based on several eyewitness accounts, many protesters adopted “Hands up, don’t shoot!” as a rallying cry. However, investigators from the Justice Department found that many of those witnesses were not credible. Brown likely did not have his hands up when Wilson shot and killed him, investigators concluded.

There is not evidence to suggest Darren Wilson’s use of force was unreasonable

Michael Brown likely did reach into Wilson’s vehicle and grab the officer

they all establish that Brown was moving toward Wilson when Wilson shot him...these same witnesses describe Brown then dropping his hands and "charging" at Wilson..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...no-michael-browns-hands-were-probably-not-up/

 

[Nograts]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:

Every time a person was bitten by a police dog — the person was black.

What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

 

[ivwshane]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:



What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

Lol! You might be a racist if you think reverse racism is just as bad as racism!
You might be a racist if you call bullshit on a federal investigation that found systemic racism!
You might be a racist if you make up your own facts to disclaim a federal investigations findings including racist emails.

Take your whitewashing somewhere else troll.

 

[pcgeek11]

Lol! You might be a racist if you think reverse racism is just as bad as racism!
You might be a racist if you call bullshit on a federal investigation that found systemic racism!
You might be a racist if you make up your own facts to disclaim a federal investigations findings including racist emails.

Take your whitewashing somewhere else troll.

There is no such thing as Reverse Racism in the sense that it is being used here.
Racism is Racism period.

True " Reverse Racism " would be Racial Equality.

 

[pcgeek11]

I would be willing to bet that If they looked this closely in all US cities FD, PD etc. Better than 75% would be guilty of exactly the same things that are in this report.

 

[HomerJS]

These are times I listen to Fox News just to see how they will handle the story. Barely a mention on hard news. Have seen little or no commentary.

Wonder why?

 

[frowertr]

Good. Glad they didn't prosecute the LEO. You threaten a LEO and cause him to fear for his life, you get shot. Thieving drug doing thug had it coming.

All you lefties can go back to attempting to take my guns from my cold dead hands...

 

[fskimospy]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:



What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

And how do you feel about the fact that black drivers were more than twice as likely as white drivers to be stopped, searched, and arrested, even after controlling for other factors? A finding with a p value of <.001?

It's interesting that even after a finding as extreme as this that so many people are trying to make it about the plight of white people. Pretty gross.

 

[HomerJS]

And how do you feel about the fact that black drivers were more than twice as likely as white drivers to be stopped, searched, and arrested, even after controlling for other factors? A finding with a p value of <.001?

It's interesting that even after a finding as extreme as this that so many people are trying to make it about the plight of white people. Pretty gross.

Yeah he's more annoyed that people talk about it rather then eliminating it.

 

[emperus]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:



What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

You read the report and what annoys you is what you term "reverse racism?" Lol. People are having their freedom and money taking away from them and you are worried about a holiday. You're a joke.

B..Bu..But there is no Racism in the US. This report is what institutional Racism looks like. The kind of Racism that leaves you frustrated and without hope because there is nothing you can do when the police and courts in your city are designed to persecute you. Imagine living like that..

 

[TechBoyJK]

WOW, how can we doubt that the killing of Mike Brown wasn't race related. This officers was one of the people who targeted black for abuse.

A thug with a badge goes around abusing blacks and ends up killing one whose is unarmed while pleading for his life, and we believe he nonsense story of being attacked. He was the attacker, he went around targeting blacks for abuse and decided he wanted to kill one, and mike brown was he latest victim. I wouldn't be surprised if he murdered others and got away with it.

Mike Brown robbed a store and didn't obey commands to get out of the street. The same DOJ that found overwhelming racism in the Ferguson PD did not find it in the Mike Brown case.

Mike Brown was an idiot who attacked a cop. Period. When you attack cops like that, you'll likely end up dead. This is common sense. Not injustice. Common sense.

Of course the Ferguson PD is racist; but that doesn't mean that Wilson executed Brown. If anything, it shows why Brown might have had such a negative, destructive attitude towards Wilson.

 

[boomerang]

Who's on board with prosecution for thought crimes? We can make this happen. Yes we can!

 

[finglobes]

Nothing the AG did compares to Bush starting a war over false pretenses 5000 soldiers killed in Iraq.

Now how about getting back on topic concerning the abuse of the citizens of Ferguson by the police.

What are you hooked on red herring? I prefer salmon.

I wasn't for the war in Iraq and was hoping Dems wouldn't vote for it

Holder is only AG even held in contempt of congress (for refusing to give up Fast and Furious records). Holder's been a known sketchy character since he worked to get Puerto Rican terrorists free.

 

[Linux23]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:



What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

the stupid is really really strong in this one.

 

[Zargon]

Mike Brown robbed a store and didn't obey commands to get out of the street. The same DOJ that found overwhelming racism in the Ferguson PD did not find it in the Mike Brown case.

Mike Brown was an idiot who attacked a cop. Period. When you attack cops like that, you'll likely end up dead. This is common sense. Not injustice. Common sense.

Of course the Ferguson PD is racist; but that doesn't mean that Wilson executed Brown. If anything, it shows why Brown might have had such a negative, destructive attitude towards Wilson.

its almost like he ignored all the information that didn't support the story he wants......


However much I despise Holder, for all his awful bullshit, what I have seen from the report so far is...good. Not good like man that's awesome, but good that they didn't try and crucify Wilson while still condemning the department practices as a whole with evidence to back it up

Sadly a lot of this does happen, everywhere. FPD is probably more racist about it than most departments, working on a college campus, you see a lot of abuse of power used on foreign students, drunk kids, dumb kids, etc.

Some of the stuff Ive read so far is sickening, I cant imagine going through it

 

[cabri]

WOW, how can we doubt that the killing of Mike Brown wasn't race related. This officers was one of the people who targeted black for abuse.

A thug with a badge goes around abusing blacks and ends up killing one whose is unarmed while pleading for his life, and we believe he nonsense story of being attacked. He was the attacker, he went around targeting blacks for abuse and decided he wanted to kill one, and mike brown was he latest victim. I wouldn't be surprised if he murdered others and got away with it.

Still butt hurt. :\
Everything that comes out w/ respect to Wilson vs Brown shows Wilson justified and no racial bias found.

You have no evidence to back up your slander - just doubling down on stupid :thumbsdown: WHY?

 

[HomerJS]

I wasn't for the war in Iraq and was hoping Dems wouldn't vote for it

Holder is only AG even held in contempt of congress (for refusing to give up Fast and Furious records). Holder's been a known sketchy character since he worked to get Puerto Rican terrorists free.

Coming from this Congress I don't give the contempt any weight. Just a pattern of personal disrespect Republicans have had for this administration.

Want to compare AGs? Look up John Mitchell.

 

[HomerJS]

Some of these 'facts' are pretty stupid. For example:



What the fuck does that even mean? They trained the dogs to be racist? Or did they pull the figure of "Well 5 people were bit this year and 3 of them were black so it's racist."

Whaaaaat? Also reverse racism is equally as bad as racism in the first place. If you think you're entitled to something because of your race such as a job or respect then you're fucking racist.

We also need to do away with black history month, hispanic month, asian month etc. Fucking racist racist racist. Once you perceive everyone as grey and literally do not give a flying fuck what their skin color is will you be clean, so basically never. But we allow reverse racism to happen all the fucking time and turn a blind eye.

What it means you ignorant motherfucker is that in 2015 this kind of stuff is still going on in "Murica"

 

[Bitek]

My bad.

***ignore***
Lol, maybe you could put up some sort of symbol on their lawn that conveys your message, perhaps a giant cross, maybe light it on fire so they can see it at night.

Lol.. Yes it was the mayor. No accountability at all for anyone.

The whole local pd/govt needs to be fired and replaced. To many excuses for far too long. And you know this isn't the only department in the country like this.

50 yrs after Selma and we still have this going on.

 

[Vic]

Who's on board with prosecution for thought crimes? We can make this happen. Yes we can!

I'm sure that you're just trolling, but what part about these findings are damning against the government of the city of Ferguson do you not understand?
Fighting for small government and putting corrupt government in check is supposed to be what you're all about. But here we have a clear cut example of a corrupt city government that has been shaking down its own populace using its police and courts, and you're defending it.
Why is that, I wonder?

 

[cubby1223]

I'm sure that you're just trolling, but what part about these findings are damning against the government of the city of Ferguson do you not understand?
Fighting for small government and putting corrupt government in check is supposed to be what you're all about. But here we have a clear cut example of a corrupt city government that has been shaking down its own populace using its police and courts, and you're defending it.
Why is that, I wonder?

You do realize the word racist is thrown around so haphazardly these days that it really doesn't have any impact anymore as a guilt-inducing mechanism to force people into accepting your point of view as the truth.

Personally, much that I've seen regarding the Ferguson incident suggests the overseers will be corrupt. So what exactly are we solving?