Anyone want virus definitions from the future?

[glugglug]

Every time I check Windows Update on my Windows 8.1 box, it says there is an "important update" available which turns out to be the Windows Defender virus definitions. If I install it and check again 10 minutes later, the same update will be there again.

I think this is because most of the time this update has a date in the future. Like right now it has available virus definitions that were published tomorrow.

Anyone else getting this?

 

[denis280]

Windows itself.is a big virus.

 

[Berryracer]

Every time I check Windows Update on my Windows 8.1 box, it says there is an "important update" available which turns out to be the Windows Defender virus definitions. If I install it and check again 10 minutes later, the same update will be there again.

I think this is because most of the time this update has a date in the future. Like right now it has available virus definitions that were published tomorrow.

Anyone else getting this?

that's the reason I disable that POS crap the first thing after installing Windows, it is so annoying that virus definition updates come as a Windows update.

In addition to this:

PS: I would rather use NO protection and only my brain than to use Windows Defender AKA MSE

 

[CRCSUX]

I would rather use my brain and windows 8 defender than no protection.

How can win 8 defender be worse than no protection?

 

[glugglug]

that's the reason I disable that POS crap the first thing after installing Windows, it is so annoying that virus definition updates come as a Windows update.

In addition to this:

PS: I would rather use NO protection and only my brain than to use Windows Defender AKA MSE

Don't think I would be trusting any list that has Norton and McAffee as high usability....

While the protection offered by any of the anti-malware apps is minimal compared to just common sense, MSSE aka Windows Defender in Win8 is the most convenient for me, as it doesn't block the network ports used by media center services (especially extender support) by default, so I don't have to go look them all up and open them manually. Also, it has practically no performance impact, unlike most others.

 

[ViRGE]

Every time I check Windows Update on my Windows 8.1 box, it says there is an "important update" available which turns out to be the Windows Defender virus definitions. If I install it and check again 10 minutes later, the same update will be there again.

I think this is because most of the time this update has a date in the future. Like right now it has available virus definitions that were published tomorrow.

Anyone else getting this?

MS pushes out updates pretty frequently. Still, at some point it should stop. It's generally only 1-2 updates per days.

I would rather use my brain and windows 8 defender than no protection.

How can win 8 defender be worse than no protection?

It isn't. Defender works very well, especially with SmartScreen to check binary signatures.

Berry has been on a hate campaign for the better part of a year. Just ignore him.

 

[Mushkins]

This has been a bug with MSE's Windows Update integration for the better part of two years. If a new definition file is published and your Windows Update is scheduled to check for new updates *before* MSE automatically checks for updates, it'll show up in windows update because technically your MSE definitions are out of date. Unfortunately, it wont update the status until the next update check or a restart(aka tomorrow, when the update schedule does the same thing again). This typically leads to there almost always being an MSE/defender definition update sitting in your new updates window every day forever.

 

[Wolfpup]

I love MSE/Windows Defender, but I am annoyed that in Windows 8 they got rid of the contextual menu to scan files. I suppose Windows Defender scans the file before you open it anyway? So it's probably just psychological? But still I don't like that removal.

The other thing I don't like is that before 8, MSE could update itself periodically separately from Windows Update, meaning I could set and forget MSE but leave Windows Update set to "notify me but don't install updates". I'd still get MSE updates with no intervention, but could check through Windows Updates before installing them.

My understanding is that Windows Defender in 8 no longer does that? You can manually check inside it, but otherwise it only updates through Windows Update...I think?

As such I have my PC launch Windows Update on boot, which I then use to update the definitions once a day.

Anyway, I LOVE that Microsoft includes this stuff in the OS now, and I love how simple they make it. Frankly *I* don't want to deal with a ridiculously complicated anti-malware solution, and "normal" users absolutely shouldn't have to.

 

[glugglug]

I don't think you understand.

I have an update showing in Windows Update with Windows Defender definitions, right now, "published" 10/3/2013 (It's still 10/2/2013...).
Once in awhile I see one dated 2 days ahead.

If I apply it in Windows Update, it will show up again in 10 minutes.

Only happens since upgrading to 8.1 RTM.