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Anyone waiting for the Kyro 3 when it comes out very soon! ?

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The Kyro 3 i am waiting for to see how it is! Can not wait. So far the Kyro 2 was really good. The Kyro 3 is expected to be $149.99 to $199.99 plus as fast as the GF 4 and the latest ATI video card if not faster because of the way it uses its video ram or whatever.
Wondering if anyone is waiting for the Kyro 3 too and if anyone here is going to get it ?

Thanks
 
Depends. If they develop onboard T&L and use contemporary ddr ram (under 4ns) and a high-clockspeed core to back up their technology (which IS impressive, especially with the beautiful color and image quality that the Kyro 2 has), I think a lot of people will show interest. If they use really low-end components like the Kyro 2 (which I used for a short while), there is already a *large* selection of cards that are budget, yet provide very good performance, and it probably will get about as much attention as the 2. I am definitely looking forward to seeing what the Kyro 3 has to offer.
 


<< The Kyro 3 i am waiting for to see how it is! Can not wait. So far the Kyro 2 was really good. The Kyro 3 is expected to be $149.99 to $199.99 plus as fast as the GF 4 and the latest ATI video card if not faster because of the way it uses its video ram or whatever.
Wondering if anyone is waiting for the Kyro 3 too and if anyone here is going to get it ?

Thanks >>


I'll probably pick one up and try it, but, I'm not really expecting much...............this was the same claim made about the Kyro II, and to be honest, I was disappointed in it.........🙁 Hopefully they will have what they say this time.............I'd love a cheap option which would give the same performance as the nVidia's & Raedons..................🙂
 
Ive read on other forums that the Kyro III is rumoured to be nothing more than a .13 micron Kyro II with possibly 240-290 clock speed and DDR memory, say 200 (400 DDR).
Sounds like a Kyro II Ultra is what we could be waiting for, yeah?
The current Kyro's are on a .20 micron process, yeah? So should be a really interesting card performance wise if the above comes to fruition.
 
Rockhard. Wow, you're really misinformed. The "Kyro 2 Ultra" was supposed to just be a higher clocked Kyro 2. The Kyro 3 is supposed to be a .13 micron chip, 4 pixel pipes, 2 TUs each, T&L engine, and use DDR ram. Though I'm not totally sure it needs DDR, but if it does ::shrugs::. The Kyro 2 was .18 microns, had 2 pixel pipes, 1TU per pipe, no T&L engine, and used SDRAM. The dif? Kyro 2 is 350 megapixels, the Kyro 3 would be, with those stats, 1,000 megapixels. 2,000 multi textured. I don't know if those WILL be the stats, but that's what PowerVR had in mind a year ago, so surely they wouldn't use weaker ones.
 
What i was saying is that the awaited Kyro 3 is not going to be released as their next part - this will be the Kyro II Ultra i stated above - Wow!, misinformed? ::Shrugs::, hmmm?
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I am definitely interested to see if the Kyro 3 is all that they say it is. They Kyro 2 was decent for what it was supposed to do - compete with the GeForce 2 MX 200 and lower cards. It does this very well and is an excellent card for business or OEM systems.

If the Kyro 3 does have T&L, actually there isn't any reason to release the card if it doesn't, and has a high-enough clock rate then it will do well. Do to the TRP (Tile Rendering Process) it doesn't need DDR as it does not have the memory problems that nVidia's and ATi's cards have.

If it performs well then I will most definitely get one. Especially if the image quality improves, which would be hard to believe.
 
I seriously doubt there will ever be a Kyro 2 "Ultra". It would be nowhere near fast enough to make any difference in the market, and would be a complete waste of money to try and manufactor it. I know I wouldn't buy one.
 
IIRC the Kyro II is clocked synchronously with its SDRam at 160ish mhz, yeah?
Ive read rumours on the net that the chip when on a .13 micron fab may be able to be ramped to between 240 and 290 mhz core!
Pop 200mhz (400) DDR ram on there and your going to have a card that theoretically might be able to give the likes of the GF3 and R200 a run for their money at a cheaper price.
The Stance of IMG has always been that they are aiming at the value market, so a card of this type at a cheap price makes sense IMO FWIW 😉
 
I'm interested to see what tile-based rendering can do. If it can solve the memory limiting factors now
present with the other, more popular GPU's, It could change the way vid cards are done.

I'm not saying it will happen, but I'd like to see STMicro try.

Competition is a GREAT thing for us. Drives prices down and keeps bigger companies (I.E. Intel) from
pushing their agendas on the consumers.

Could you imagine what the prices would be if there was one graphics card or processor maker?


Oops, sorry for the rant.
 
At 290mhz the the Kyro 2 chip would push out a bit over 500 megapixels. The GF3 can already do about 700. Check out http://www.paraknowya.com/ and thier forums to see what they think. And I don't believe a product exists until it's listed on the munfatorer's website. Why? Fraud. Lies. People not knowing what they are doing?
 
Then again..I could be wrong, check out Paraknowya.com They seem to have a pic of the Prohpet 4800. I'm not saying it's real, and until Hercules confirms it's existance, I will assume it isn't, but it does tend to mess with ones imagination.
 


<< The Kyro 3 is supposed to be a .13 micron chip, 4 pixel pipes, 2 TUs each, T&L engine, and use DDR ram. >>

Sounds like a very promising card to me. Even with a core clock of only 200MHz the card would push 800MPixels/s and 1600MTexel/s. Since they Kryo1/2 both seemed to be nearly 100% efficient with fill-rate. I'm assuming the same with the Kryo 3. This would make it an excellent competitor with the GeForce3 line of cards.
 


<< Suppose to be a good competitor to the GF4 too. Seriously. >>

Don't believe it until you see it. This is what is always said to stir up attention right before the release of a product. I'll wait to see some benchmarks, quality comparisons, and driver quality level out of the Kryo3 before I get too excited. It does look promising, as I said. None the less, specs can be deceiving.
 
Bovinicus just remember th Kyro 3 will only render what you see not the whole map. Which saves a whole lot of memory bandwidth! Nvidia does not do that so that helps the Kyro video cards a whole lot.
 


<< Bovinicus just remember th Kyro 3 will only render what you see not the whole map. Which saves a whole lot of memory bandwidth! Nvidia does not do that so that helps the Kyro video cards a whole lot. >>


I'm with bovinicus. I want to see some actual silicon/benches before I start believing hype. We know that NVIDIA is consistent with delivering performance/features/stability. The Kyro II was OK, but let's be real...do we even have any specs/info on the Kyro III?
 


<< Bovinicus just remember th Kyro 3 will only render what you see not the whole map. Which saves a whole lot of memory bandwidth! Nvidia does not do that so that helps the Kyro video cards a whole lot. >>

I'm aware of the way the TBR system works. I know that the card will be competitive. I'm just saying that marketing BS gets thrown around a lot. I like to make my own conclusions about things. What a company tells you about a product is usually pretty unreliable. They of course want their products to appear better than they are. We will see. I think it will perform well. With the specifications I heard I think it should at least outperform the GF3 line of cards.
 
Ive got faith in this card.
Anyone whos oc'ed a KyroII has realized that they seem to be REALLY core-speed dependent, so any boost, even a small one, could deffinitly help. The DDR is overkill though... KyroII's barely used any of the bandwith of the SDR thanks to the tile based rendering. High end SDR could have got the job done, but i guess with RAM prices fairly equal, might as well get the stuff that looks good on the outside of the box in bold lettering. 😉 By the way, is it just me, or has no one really realized that this card really DOESNT need a T&L engine? With the speeds KyroII is hitting, might as well save the money and not develop and T&L engine... its basicly been proven pretty useless anyway, except in extreme circumstances or when fully programable. Besides, T&L will have a much smaller impact on this card then on a standard triangle renderer.

Oh well, i think PowerVR/STMicro knows what their doing.
 
Id kinda like to see them drop the bomb on NVIDIA right before the GeForce4 comes out. Its rare to see companies act smart like that here lately but oh well...
 
BTW there was leaked information on the Kyro 3 specs. but it was taken down a while back. Somone i know has a friend who he got it from. His friend had copied it from the website i guess on his computer or printed it out.
 
Who said that another company will not buy them out and continue with it? It could happen but it may not either i know. But still there is always that chance remember.

 
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