anyone use the nView on the new GeForce4's?

[Ameesh]

how do you like it, can you have it setup so it uses two analog crt monitors? can you set it up to use the monitor on the right as the primary and the monitor on the left as the secondary?

Thanks for any help!

 

[Viper GTS]

<< how do you like it, can you have it setup so it uses two analog crt monitors? can you set it up to use the monitor on the right as the primary and the monitor on the left as the secondary?

Thanks for any help! >>



1) You have to use external adapters, but yes, AFAIK it is perfectly possible. They'd be stupid to make it not possible, as the majority of people still use CRT's.

2) I believe that is a function of Windows, not the video card. When I had my G450 running dualhead I could simply drag the primary monitor anywhere I wanted to reflect it's real-world position.

Viper GTS

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

1: Yes, with the adapters
2: No. I could not get this to work correctly. It would only allow my primary to be on the right. No matter how much I fought it simply wouldn't let me set the right one as primary. Maybe someone else can figure it out. I asked in GH and no one knew. I just use the "extended desktop to this monitor" under the settings in display. Works like it always has and lets me arrange it how I want to. nView wouldn't let me do it exactly like I wanted (I think it would let my right be primary, but would still put icons on the left and couldn't move them how I wanted).

 

[Ameesh]

thanks guys im thinking about getting a geforce 4 tommorow any thoughts on a paticualr brand, im thinking about the 4400


i hear gainword is a good card, i havent bought a video card in a long time so opions would be great.

 

[Viper GTS]

<< 1: Yes, with the adapters
2: No. I could not get this to work correctly. It would only allow my primary to be on the right. No matter how much I fought it simply wouldn't let me set the right one as primary. Maybe someone else can figure it out. I asked in GH and no one knew. I just use the "extended desktop to this monitor" under the settings in display. Works like it always has and lets me arrange it how I want to. nView wouldn't let me do it exactly like I wanted (I think it would let my right be primary, but would still put icons on the left and couldn't move them how I wanted). >>



I don't have my G450 installed right now, but I believe I had a dropdown menu to specify which monitor was primary & which was secondary... Then you could arrange them any way you wanted.

Could be driver specific, though, as I've only dealt with the G450's dualhead implementation.

Viper GTS

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

I took a leap and went with PNY this time rather than my usual Visionteks. Couldn't find any in stock and had to have it

No complaints so far. Came with a set of those 3d glasses that are OK. I'll probably try and sell them. I haven't really started overclock yet (285/565 right now) so don't know what the limit is. Everything has worked fine, nothing extra fancy compared to other cards. Think Newegg has it for about $250

The 4400 is probably the way to go if you are willing to spend that much. Most cards hit at least 4600 levels. Only thing may be to wait for a 4200, if you can wait I couldn't Good thing BLUE still covers PMing on my card.

 

[Ameesh]

<< I took a leap and went with PNY this time rather than my usual Visionteks. Couldn't find any in stock and had to have it

No complaints so far. Came with a set of those 3d glasses that are OK. I'll probably try and sell them. I haven't really started overclock yet (285/565 right now) so don't know what the limit is. Everything has worked fine, nothing extra fancy compared to other cards. Think Newegg has it for about $250

The 4400 is probably the way to go if you are willing to spend that much. Most cards hit at least 4600 levels. Only thing may be to wait for a 4200, if you can wait I couldn't Good thing BLUE still covers PMing on my card. >>



when are the 4200 coming out and how much will they cost?

 

[Viper GTS]

4200 Preview

Note the lack of dual DVI outputs.

Viper GTS

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

I just checked again and no way to get it to do what I want :|

Maybe I'm just not seeing it. I get a drop down to select which monitor I want as a primary. The graphic looks like this

Monitor 1---------Monitor 2

X To make monitor 1 display 1
X To make monitor 2 display 1

But there is no option to put monitor 2 on the left. Drives me nuts

 

[Ameesh]

<< 4200 Preview

Note the lack of dual DVI outputs.

Viper GTS >>



well as long as nview is functional on it i really like some of the features on it

plus i plan on only using CRTs any way i really dont care for LCD screens and i think DVI is more hype then anything it wasnt anthing special for my roomates SGI screens. infact hes back onto analog so he can use his KVM switch again.

 

[Ameesh]

<< I just checked again and no way to get it to do what I want :|

Maybe I'm just not seeing it. I get a drop down to select which monitor I want as a primary. The graphic looks like this

Monitor 1---------Monitor 2

X To make monitor 1 display 1
X To make monitor 2 display 1

But there is no option to put monitor 2 on the left. Drives me nuts >>




ohh this might be a deal breaker for me, right now i have my secondary monitor on the left of my primary monitor it shows my email and chat windows and all my surfing and develpoment go on on my primary monitor which is directly in front of me.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

You can still do it using Windows extended desktop thing instead of nView. I just drag the monitor to the left, select "extend my desktop to this monitor", highlight and drag my icons to the right monitor, tada. Very simple and straight forward.

What does nView do anyway that the basic Windows thing won't? I can get it to do monitors one above the other, hell I can even tell it to do it diagonal, nView won't do that I don't think.

 

[Viper GTS]

<< I just checked again and no way to get it to do what I want :|

Maybe I'm just not seeing it. I get a drop down to select which monitor I want as a primary. The graphic looks like this

Monitor 1---------Monitor 2

X To make monitor 1 display 1
X To make monitor 2 display 1

But there is no option to put monitor 2 on the left. Drives me nuts >>



You have a work area with two monitors showing, right?

You can click them & drag them to their relative real-world positions.

Viper GTS

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Negatory, it only selects them, won't let me physically move them

Says "You can configure a display device by selecting the appropriate monitor image below"

Just says 1 on the left and 2 on the right. No way to move them around or make the numbers change

 

[Ameesh]

<< Negatory, it only selects them, won't let me physically move them

Says "You can configure a display device by selecting the appropriate monitor image below"

Just says 1 on the left and 2 on the right. No way to move them around or make the numbers change >>



can you just simply switch the plugs around?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Not for me, I don't run Dual 24/7, only when I need it

By default the VGA out is the primary and the DVI is secondary (although for some reason I can't figure out, the bootup sequence goes to the DVI, then once it is in Windows it switches to the VGA out). It least that's how it was explained to me.

 

[Viper GTS]

<< Negatory, it only selects them, won't let me physically move them

Says "You can configure a display device by selecting the appropriate monitor image below"

Just says 1 on the left and 2 on the right. No way to move them around or make the numbers change >>



You're sure about that?

My roommate had two monitors setup (using two video cards) one above the other. One on his desk surface, one directly above it on a shelf. IIRC both were NVIDIA cards, one a TNT & one a TNT2. He just dragged the secondary monitor up above the primary. That's what makes me think it's not driver specific, since windows would have to know which side to allow you to move the mouse off of to go to the secondary display.

Here's a screenshot of what I mean (first image on page)

Granted this screenshot is in 98, but it looks exactly the same in XP & presumably 2000.

The very bottom image on this page sounds like what you're describing, but it's different than the one I'm talking about...

Viper GTS

 

[dude]

Don't use the nvidia nView or whatever it is. Use the Windows Display Properties instead (what Viper described). it's much easier and much more straight forward.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Yeah dude, that's what I've been using.

Viper, the first screenshot is the Windows desktop thing, which lets me drag it around and works great. Lets me do whatever I want.

The second pic is the nView but on mine the left monitor says "1" and the right monitor says "2" without anyway of moving them around (that I have found).

Gonna give this one last bump to see if anyone has the same problem or knows what I'm missing.

Here's what mine looks like Windows where I can drag it over, as seen here
Nview where I can't move the left monitor over to the right (can't change 1 and 2's position)

 

[Viper GTS]

Would it work if you switched which port the monitors were connected to, & then used display properties to drag them into their relative positions?

I'm sure it must be possible.

Viper GTS

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Yeah display properties works fine, like in the first pic is how I have it set. It's nView that won't let me make it look like that.

It would probably work if I switched the monitors, but the problem is that I only use it a few times a week. Since Windows outputs to the VGA first, it'd get no video with it connected to the DVI If I ran it 24/7 switching it should work.

I still don't see what nView offers that the regular display properties tab doesnt. The Windows version is much more straight forward and even does more as far as sizes and positions go.