Anyone try Linspire Five-O OS?

Shawn

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My dad's mobo died and he figured it was time to upgrade the CPU anyway (1600+ athlon). He was going to just upgrade but then he found a whole desktop for $199 on tigerdirect. It comes with Linspire Five-O which is based on Linux. Has anyone used it? Should I just format it and put XP on it?
 

pkme2

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http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/reviews/linux/linspire-five-o.php

The price is great for a Linux based system. For what is offered, it should be perfect for those who want to surf the internet, write and get emails, and burn CDs. Nothing to complicated, but still useful with 32bit applications.

It's a simple machine and its just that. Buy something better for Win XP.
 

Shawn

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It's not really going to be used for mush else other than the internet. However my mom just started going back to school with the University of Phoenix online. I'm just wondering if she'll have problems with it.
 

BlueWeasel

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Even though it's Tiger Direct, that's still a decent system for the price. Add another stick of 256MB RAM, and XP should run fine for basic tasks.

I've only tinkered with it briefly, but Linspire isn't bad. In terms of transitioning from Windows to Linux, it's as close to a "Windows" distro as you'll find.
 

phisrow

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For tasks that don't require Windows specific programs, it should be just fine. Desktop Linux is very usable for the "just basic use" set, so long as they don't fancy going in and changing lots of stuff. And, while I prefer distros without proprietary encumbrances, Linspire is said to be a perfectly decent desktop setup, for the nongeek.

You might end up having to load Windows at some point, e.g. if the University of Phoenix decided to implement some sort of "OMG E-Learning!!!11`~" module as an ActiveX app; but I wouldn't go into the game assuming that you'll have to. I'd give you better than 50-50 odds of not having to load Windows, in the end.
 

nweaver

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Danger will robinson!!

Linspire has some bad mojo stuff, such as no package management (except it's craptastic paid stuff) and dumping you to a GUI desktop as root, with no warning/option to add users.

I would get an Ubuntu LiveCD and try that out. Ubuntu works great on 512 and should have most everything they need. Updating the OS is as simple as watching for the icon, clicking, typing your P/W and saying "go"
 

Shawn

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Well the only reason I'm even considering the OS is because it comes with it. But I'm thinking I'll just put XP on it. I have a 512MB stick from my dad's old pc.
 

drag

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Linspire setting up the default user as root is very bad. So setup a regular user for your dad to make things safer. As root you can have a program barf that will ruin system files, if your just a regular user then it limits the damage that can happen.

This is my main problem with linspire.

Linspire package management is a bit annoying, you have to pay a monthly fee to download programs. Almost everything is open source and is aviable for Free in other channels, linspire just renames a bunch of it and that's what you install thru their pay service.

there are a few genuniunely useful stuff of Linspire that you get that you don't get thru other distros.

for instance Linspire pays licensing fees to get support for Microsoft window media codecs. They also have deals for some programs like 'Cedega' (normally 5 bucks a month subscription fee, linspire charges a price that may or may not be worth it depending on how they do updates), or some commercial linux games that are fun (like marble blast gold, which is fun for adults and good for young children.. or quake2 or whatever). They have AOL dialers, and other things that normal Linux distros don't have.

Stuff like that. So it may be usefull service to have and it's not tooo much, like 60 bucks for the expensive version.

Linspire itself is Debian based. If you try linspire out and it doesn't work out for you then Ubuntu or Debian can easily replace it on any computer sold with linspire.

The modem may be tricky though.. Linspire may go into deals to get special support for it.

Keep in mind that with these dirt-cheap systems that they aren't going to be very high quality. They'll probably be fairly noisy and you have to have a safe place for the computer box since they are probably flimsy. I've been told by a person that in order to get their computer to work properly that they had to reinforce the mounting of PCI cards by using those stripper-style packaging tie downs.

But after that it works, so a crappy computer that works fine and a expensive computer that works fine are both the same things: computers that work fine. 200 bucks is a nice price after all.

Also you'd want to upgrade your machine's memory to 512megs of RAM if you can. The CPU is plenty powerfull enough.

Also find out if it has a AGP port or not because you may want to upgrade the video card later if you can. (buy a ATI 9200 or _older_ card or get a newish Nvidia card for good Linux support (good 2d support, if you want 3d then it requires propriatory nvidia drivers which you should inquire to Linspire about) if your curious).

Some of these machines will only have PCI slots and PCI video cards can be hard to find and can be expensive compared to AGP or PCI express ones.
 

nweaver

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One advantage (Assuming he isn't too much windows biased, i.e. all he does is email and web) of linux is lack of Spyware and Virus problems. I just did this for a family member (went from a K62 400 192 MB to a P3 450 256MB) and all they can do as talk about how much faster their computer is.

 

DasFox

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Shawn Linspire is awful. But look as long as he isn't going to touch it and just use it the way it is, then hopefully he'll be fine. But even the Linspire setup at times might need a little Linux technical know how, depending on how far he wants to get.

But $199 is cheap, hopefully he isn't looking to do to much and he should be ok. Look that is a cheap system, give it a shot and if later you guys get in trouble look up this IRC server to chat and get some Linux help and support:

irc.freenode.net
##linux

The best way to do Linux is to build it yourself. But there are a few companies out there selling Linux systems. Here are a few I could dig up:

http://opensensesolutions.com/
http://www.ibexpc.com/
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv
 

linjy2

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i bought a linspire comp on blackfriday for $99.
OS was pretty neat and good for basic usage, but i formatted it to windows xp the next day.