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Anyone tried Office 2013?

Mr. Pedantic

Diamond Member
We got it as part of the Home Use program.

Having used it for about 3 hours (just Word for now) it feels like a piece of shit. Pretty much every single action now has an animation, even the caret moving, and it's been smoothed out and slowed down like it's trying to hide a hardware/software speed deficiency (which, seeing as it was created for tablets, it probably usually is). Even scrolling feels bad now. The whole Skydrive sync feature seemed really exciting at first, but the thing keeps spitting back error messages about having failed uploads. What's worse, it works usually - but it still tells you it failed. And because failed, it will try again in a couple minutes. But it'll fail this too. So it'll try again in a couple minutes. But it'll- you see the problem here?

The Skydrive thing also causes delays in weird parts of the program - but again, only sometimes. It's frustrating, and inconsistent, and when you've gotten used to the instant snappiness that using Word 2007 on an SSD gave, it's jarring and frustrating and very, very slow.

The whole Metro UI think looks pretty nice, I always hated the rounded corners and the shine that the old Ribbon had. But it's not that big an improvement, when I'm using Office I don't really look at the Ribbon anymore, because I've become accustomed to using keyboard shortcuts to access my most used functions. And the Metro UI feels like another point of slowness when opening and closing documents.

So basically, I've traded what used to work (albeit poorly in certain areas *cough*formatting*cough*) for something that looks almost the same, works almost as well, and is as slow as a paraplegic sloth.
 
Nice cough, Morbus. 🙂 I looked at 2013 and decided to stay with 2010. 2013 has too much cloud and pie in the sky.
 
Tried it, yes...

Liked it, no, not really. Too much "fluff" for my taste...

I looked at 2013 and decided to stay with 2010. 2013 has too much cloud and pie in the sky.

Not to mention that you can only install a retail 2013 on a single computer. With 2010 you can install it on 3 computers...
 
I got it through the Home Use program at my old work. It's Office and it works on Win 8 64-bit. That's enough for me.
 
I have a subscription to Office 365 University (4 years of Office for $79, along with other things). I love Office 2013, I just wish they had the black theme from Office 2010/2007
 
What's the use case for LO anyway? If you need power and compatibility, LO is still gimpy and not rock solid compatible so you still need Office. If you don't need power and compatibility, Google Docs can do pretty much everything LO can with less bulk and nice Google integration.

So LO is better for... users who need more power than Docs but less than Office who don't care about Excel compatibility, and people who don't have internet connections? That seems like a pretty small market.
 
Back in XP, when Microsoft's equation management was completely FUBAR'd, I used LO for notes because it had better equation support. And while I was learning music, I used it because it had better Lilypond support.

Other than those 2 use cases, for me Microsoft Office is superior in almost every single way.
 
What's the use case for LO anyway? If you need power and compatibility, LO is still gimpy and not rock solid compatible so you still need Office. If you don't need power and compatibility, Google Docs can do pretty much everything LO can with less bulk and nice Google integration.

So LO is better for... users who need more power than Docs but less than Office who don't care about Excel compatibility, and people who don't have internet connections? That seems like a pretty small market.

LibreOffice is good for people who don't want to give up control of their documents to a corporation, and who don't want to be spied on by an ad company. "Compatibility" with proprietary formats isn't a concern of mine. I think MS has only /just/ become compliant with their own OOXML "standard" they managed to slip through the system with Office2013. It's the same old games with them, where you're forced to buy new software cause they can't be arsed to follow any standards. We'll see if they do better going foreward, but snakes seldom turn into kitties. Snakes are always snakes...
 
Uhh yeah, I'm all in favor of FOSS, but back in the real world nobody gives a crap how ideologically sound your office suite is if your output doesn't come out right on their machine which is undoubtedly running Office.

Lucky you not having to worry about compatibility with the rest of the world (or LO's other deficiences) but most of us need to share our files with people who aren't FOSS monkeys.

Also, Office 2013 opens old Office 2000 docs just fine thanks. And 100 bucks or whatever every few years is hardly a high bar to entry for anyone who does business on their machine.
 
I have a license for 2010 Professional Plus and 2013 Home and Business Edition

I use 2010 Professional Plus because it looks much better and doesn't have the nonesense of 2013 like SkyDrive
 
Lucky you not having to worry about compatibility with the rest of the world (or LO's other deficiences) but most of us need to share our files with people who aren't FOSS monkeys.

Also, Office 2013 opens old Office 2000 docs just fine thanks. And 100 bucks or whatever every few years is hardly a high bar to entry for anyone who does business on their machine.

None of their formats work right from one version to the next. It should be fixed with 2013, but it should never have been a problem in the first place. I don't have to worry about being compatible, because I am compatible. My odf documents open just fine with any program that can follow a simple spec, and if someone doesn't have such a program, it's easy to come by. Lucky you, Office2013 can now open them without a janky plugin, but for those not fortunate enough to have a decent office program, it's easy enough to get one in a few minutes.
 
"Dear client, I know you can open everyone else's documents just fine, but I'll need you to run some updates, grab a plugin, or download a whole new office suite in order to view my documents properly. Why? Oh, I refuse to use what the rest of the world uses for ideological reasons, and I figured you'd be willing to pick up the slack for... hello? Hello?"

If that works in your world, more power to you.

Office and LO still have compatibility issues post-4.2, btw. It's gotten better, but it's nowhere near good enough for any semi-demanding professional workflow. If your job requires compatibility, you pay the piper and do it right.
 
If you set up 2013 correctly it's snappy. Just turn off the eye candy you don't want.

That said, I don't see a big advantage going to it if you have 2010 already.

For some reason my company enterprise 2010 Office would not run under Windows 8. I had to upgrade to 2013 and then it worked. Even then occasionally I have to do a repair install.
 
If you set up 2013 correctly it's snappy. Just turn off the eye candy you don't want.

That said, I don't see a big advantage going to it if you have 2010 already.

For some reason my company enterprise 2010 Office would not run under Windows 8. I had to upgrade to 2013 and then it worked. Even then occasionally I have to do a repair install.

weird. i am running 2010 pro plus under 8.1 without issues on several pcs [and office has sp2 and several updates after that]

i used to use 2013 at my last job...outlook was horrible. crashed all the time when forwarding emails. i am not going to suggest we upgrade anytime soon.
 
Nah im sticking with 2010. I would use libreoffice if it opened my stronglifts excel spreadsheet properly, it looks like a pretty good office suite, especially considering the price!
 
Office 2013 is just like Windows 8 in that they're fine software but there's really no concrete reason to upgrade over the previous version. That said, I've had no problems with Office 2013 in the year I've been using it but I don't blame anyone for sticking with Office 2010.
 
Morbus - what do you do that Calc does better than Excel? I've heard that claim before but never gotten specifics. I'm a moderate user - some of the datasheets I work with are f'in huge, but I don't do anything overly complex with them. However, we've got an office and client base full of MS Office users, and any risk of compatibility issues is too much risk. Until LO has 100% guaranteed compatibility, I can't even consider switching. Even then, I probably wouldn't.

LO renders fonts differently and calculates column widths differently and doesn't always read my Excel formatting right... basically any modestly complex or precisely formatted spreadsheet I make in Excel ends up looking just different enough to be obnoxious in Calc. Too bad... I'd love to support FOSS and migrate the office away from Office. If nothing else, it'd be a feather in my cap to save our upgrade costs on new Office versions. 🙂
 
2013 seems ok.. outlook is a bit better but i would like it if the interface/look was a bit more customizable. In the end, I don't think I'd upgrade if I couldn't get it for a low price. I like 2010 just fine.
 
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