Anyone think this cpu will effect pdd on gtx580?

skipsneeky2

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Yesterday i sold my i7 950 and other goodies as im going 2600k for a long term build.

Im using a loaner emachines with xp 512mb ram and drumroll....

Celeron 420!D:

Besides yahoo chat open occasionally youtube and this forum thats all i will punish this rig with at one time till i build my 2600k folder in 2 weeks.

But can my gtx580 fold with it thats the question.

Don't worry i wont ever attempt to game on this lol

Biggest worry is ppd will suffer:'(

Motherboard in this rig is a 945g so pci e 1.1 standards

If ppd suffers very little or not i'll look into fitting the card into this case or swapping this crap into my antec 900 for the time being so it will.
 
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skipsneeky2

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I don't think it would affect the ppd.

Hope not

Took a good look at the insides of the case appears the ecs 945g has one of those fantastic standing upwards bios batteries.

If this might block the gtx580 only god will know till i attempt to fit it.

Don't worry about airflow im gonna put a 400+cfm 25 inch room fan right next to the case blowing air right into the case lol.

That sounds ghetto but it could save me the hassle of swapping everything into the 900 but if the card wont fit into the case i guess ill have a housewarming party for the 945g in the 900 tonight lol.

Will love a bit more input on the capabilities of folding before i have some fun with dr frankensteine type experiements lol
 

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I fold with GTX 460 - CPU utilization is ' 0 ' , when just folding..

Now, if you decide to run the SMP client, it will affect your PPD - If you overclock to about 4.6g, you could gain about 35k PPD ..:biggrin:
 

skipsneeky2

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Had the fan idea from some of my first overclocking involving a socket 478 pentium 4 2.4ghzs 533fsb cpu.

I had a window ac unit and i stood my tower in front of the airflow of it had it running ice cold.

squeezed 300mhzs more out of the cpu then on regular air cooling i had a final overclock of 3.7ghzs and settled at 3.6ghzs stable.

Most ghetto thing you may have ever seen but better then that nitrogen crap people do lol
 

skipsneeky2

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I fold with GTX 460 - CPU utilization is ' 0 ' , when just folding..

Now, if you decide to run the SMP client, it will affect your PPD - If you overclock to about 4.6g, you could gain about 35k PPD ..:biggrin:

When you mean 4.6g you mean the 2600k right?

Will run mine at 4.4ghzs or the stock overclocking setting asus sets it at, looking at longevity and getting 3 or so years from it :D 4.4g for me will be plenty trust me.

smp would be the client with the display right? If so iv'e been using that but i keep it running in the tray and i don't even bother looking or nothing i pretend the damn thing isn't even there since im powered up 24/7.

Since this crapola celeron 420 cant game for crap this pc will be like Titanic full steam ahead 24/7 gotta make those milestones :thumbsup:
 

skipsneeky2

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If the hit is only at most 5,000 pdd effective i can make up the difference in pdd daily then maybe even exceed it since i wont be gaming for a while
 

skipsneeky2

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The new control console will manage the GPU and SMP ( multithreaded ) clients for you..

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18034#p180317

User guide here..

https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/wiki/FahControl

Thanks for the help appears not much negative feed back which is a good thing :thumbsup:

Will be the first person probaly ever to match a gtx580 with anything worst then a Pentium 4 to date LOL

Just hate the idea of the card sitting in a anti static bag in its box for the next 2 weeks.

Will attack the fitting of the card in the tower and any other insane moves of insanity this evening :sneaky:

Will hope that possibly someone who has done something like this would have some input still:p
 

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I seriously doubt that the Celeron and or the PCI-e will have a reverse affect with PPD. As we all very well know that the latest Nvidia drivers use little Cpu cycles. What may slow you down is your uploading time depending on your ether link connection that board may have. I cant remember if that chipset had 10/100/1000 or not? So, the upload/download time may have a small PPD reduction depending on the workload due to time.
 

skipsneeky2

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I seriously doubt that the Celeron and or the PCI-e will have a reverse affect with PPD. As we all very well know that the latest Nvidia drivers use little Cpu cycles. What may slow you down is your uploading time depending on your ether link connection that board may have. I cant remember if that chipset had 10/100/1000 or not? So, the upload/download time may have a small PPD reduction depending on the workload due to time.

Pretty sure this motherboard has gigabyte ethernet.

Would be a real shitter of a motherboard if my first build that featuring a 875p chipset had it and intels pride and joy 945g didn't no sarcasm intended at all :)

Know the lack of potential upgrades for this thing is far fetched so i wouldn't be surprised if some of the companys got cheap with the onboard goodies .

Noticed no def yes or no answers i do value everyone's help and input but it def sounds like something no one here would get caught dead doing ha :sneaky:

Anything for team 198! Even if i swap this crapper into the antec 900 for 2 weeks till im on the new build its worth the contribution no matter the hassle:D
 
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skipsneeky2

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I thank everyone very much for their help support and input on this matter:)

Just got one last pickle appears on the mobo there's the standing up bios battery right in the path of any video card longer then 5 inch's long it seems.

Fearing it might make the installation of the card impossible.

Did the designers of ECS motherboards back in the day have a stick up their ass? The location and how the battery installed should have been either flat or moved 2 inchs south closer to the headers not dead on with the pci e slot :eek:
 

skipsneeky2

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Installation of the card is a fail.

The standing up bios battery makes any dual slot card over 7.5 inch's long impossible.

7800gtx came out in june 2005 like 7 months before my friend purchased this pc .

Cant see why Intel didn't move the battery a inch lower or lay it flat in a revised version.

Motherboard supports the Pentium d, which alot of people bought for gaming.

Betting anyone who bought a pentium d for this motherboard and a 7800gtx in late 2006 was in for a surprise when the video card didn't fit.

Baffles me the engineers can overlook something so small.

For the record the case has enough room for the 6990 then some so no issue there.
 

skipsneeky2

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On a good note in 2 weeks when my 2600k build is up and running, i figured i would run both the cpu and gpu clients at full load for a few days to test stability in the new system.

Not sure how to properly set up the cpu client for max potential ppd so hoping someone could give me the n00b walk thru on that when the time comes :)

2600k will be clocked to around 4.4ghzs 24/7 and the gtx580 at stock clocks.

Folding is so addictive im considering seeing how this celeron 420 does but i feel it will take all week to pull off a wu :mad:
 
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skipsneeky2

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Despite the sarcasm about the celeron 420 taking a week to do a wu, i do believe it will take this cpu actually almost a week to do project 3866 consisting of 25000 steps.

Appears the time between frames is in the 1 hour range range

Got 85% of the cpu loaded doing this one so whats the expected points per week with it LOL

Just finished 2500 of 25000 steps one hour in .

Is this even close to right i know the celeron 420 isn't a 990x but if my math is right it will take about 4 days 6 hours to finish this.

On a serious note what do you think this cpu is getting ppd wise?
 

Drsignguy

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Based on this info, I dont think that cpu will complete the Wu's deadlines. so, with that said, I wouldn't waste the time and power. Just as an example, my E7200 @ 3.6, can do SMP wu's and only gets about 2400 PPD. My Q6600 @ 3.1, can do 5k+. :) So with these new WU's you truly need at least 4 cores and at least 3.0Ghz to get them completed by at the least, half of the time.
 

skipsneeky2

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Sounds like a god awful processor for anything but checking emails.

I had about 5 hours in and this pc slowed down to the point it wanted to lock up so i called it quits.