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anyone ski here????

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andylawcc

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i was debating this with a friend. He said shorter the faster, and I argued for the vice versa. so which is true? What's the physics behind it?


oh also, anyone tried skiboard/bigfoot before? is it wierd to ski with such short blades?
 
Longer and harder skiis give you more stability and therefore allow you to go faster.

The longest skiis I have are 215cm🙂 I don't use them that often though, has to be flat and icey without any rocks or I'll use my other pairs.
 
Originally posted by: broon
Longer = faster.
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but how can I explain it to my friend though?

the only non-sensical way I can think of is:
Longer = larger contact surface. More Contact Surface = more negative resistance / "negative" friction. hence, faster.

anyone 😕 ? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: broon
Longer = faster.
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QFT

ski jumpers have about 10 foot ski's and are also wider

there for the friction is spread out on a larger surface area

if you're looking to buy ski's brands i recommend
saomon
volkle (i have these)
elan
K2
atomic

marker bindings are also good
 
longer = faster, they are much more stable at higher speeds, when i raced super G before they came out with the shaped skies i was skiing on a pair of 225s man they were huge
 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: broon
Longer = faster.
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but how can I explain it to my friend though?

the only non-sensical way I can think of is:
Longer = larger contact surface. More Contact Surface = more negative resistance / "negative" friction. hence, faster.

anyone 😕 ? 🙂
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Look at speed skaters. Their skates are longer for a reason.
 
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I skied once for 8 seconds. Then went to the base of the mountain and got drunk.
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ya know that lift ticket isn't a cover charge

you can go into the bar for free
 
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I skied once for 8 seconds. Then went to the base of the mountain and got drunk.
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ya know that lift ticket isn't a cover charge

you can go into the bar for free
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well, I wasn't very enthused about the whole thing. Was talked into it by my buddies. I was mostly concerned I'd hurt myself as I was already booked to go to Vegas for 4 days the next weekend....
 
Haha...that reminds me of the last time I went skiing a few years ago and brought a friend along who never had skied. About an hour or two into it (and midway down the bunny slopes), he gave up, took his skis off, and walked down the hill :laugh: What a tool. He must've felt just plain silly a girl was trying to teach him how to ski and he just couldnt get it.

Skiing was so easy for me to learn and is such a blast
 
On soft snow, a longer ski spreads the load out so there is less friction between the ski and the snow's surface, producing an easier and faster glide

err...something like that

anywho, no one buys long skis anymore...but they were definitely darn fast.

i traded in my 215cm atomic ARCS about 4 years ago for some 180 cm twin tips and never looked back
 
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: broon
Longer = faster.
Click to expand...

QFT

ski jumpers have about 10 foot ski's and are also wider

there for the friction is spread out on a larger surface area

if you're looking to buy ski's brands i recommend
saomon
volkle (i have these)
elan
K2
atomic

marker bindings are also good
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Jumpers use a longer and wider ski so that they got longer distances. Their skis function like wings so it's a completely different concept.

I'm partial to Rossi's and Fischers.

 
Originally posted by: sohcrates

i traded in my 215cm atomic ARCS about 4 years ago for some 180 cm twin tips and never looked back
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i think another reason for people moving away from long ski's is the hourglass shape of them too

since ski's now days have more area because of bulges on the fronts and ends the extra length isn't needed

check out some of the first Elans the curves in those things were huge
 
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: broon
Longer = faster.
Click to expand...

QFT

ski jumpers have about 10 foot ski's and are also wider

there for the friction is spread out on a larger surface area

if you're looking to buy ski's brands i recommend
saomon
volkle (i have these)
elan
K2
atomic

marker bindings are also good
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Jumpers use a longer and wider ski so that they got longer distances. Their skis function like wings so it's a completely different concept.

I'm partial to Rossi's and Fischers.
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also true
 
You're on your edge most of the time.

Longer edge = holds line better = faster.

I have a big long downhill board and a freestyle board.

The difference in speed is nothing short of amazing.
 
Send a message to MR N8 he used to have a SkiBoard related website, I don't know if he still does but he might be able to help you out.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
You're on your edge most of the time.

Longer edge = holds line better = faster.

I have a big long downhill board and a freestyle board.

The difference in speed is nothing short of amazing.
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QFT, you shouldn't be on the flats of your skis when racing anyways other than transitioning into the next turn
 
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: sohcrates

i traded in my 215cm atomic ARCS about 4 years ago for some 180 cm twin tips and never looked back
Click to expand...

i think another reason for people moving away from long ski's is the hourglass shape of them too

since ski's now days have more area because of bulges on the fronts and ends the extra length isn't needed

check out some of the first Elans the curves in those things were huge
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the huge curve is made for peope,l who need to learn how to ski because it is MUCH easier to turn them, hell they practially turn theselfs

if you look at high end raceing skis they have a curve but its much smaller, almost not there

getting a 230cm straight DH ski to turn wasent eaxactly easy,
 
With longer skis, you don't sink as deep into the snow since you have more surface area. Also, they stay straighter. The more your skis turn from side to side the more friction. Unless you are into downhill racing though i'd go with shorter skis though since turning ability is more important, especially if you want to do freestyle (jumps, moguls, etc).
 
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