Anyone setup a home alarm? Doing a DSC 1864 tomorrow.

[alkemyst]

Reading up now and installing tomorrow:

DSC 1864 with 1 5108 (16 hardwire zones)
5132 32 zone wireless
2 Bosch 835i motions
1 DSC 4904p wireless motion
1 DSC SD30W 30 Watt Indoor / Outdoor Siren
20 DSC EV DW4975 Vanishing Wireless Door Window Contacts
3 DSC EV DW4917 Wireless Recessed Door Window Contacts
1 DSC WS4945 Wireless Door / Window Transmitter
2 System Sensor 4WTA-B Smoke / Heat Detectors
1 DSC PK5501 Sixty-four Zone Fixed LCD Keypad
1 DSC PK5500 Sixty-four Alphanumeric Zone Fixed LCD Keypad
1 Uplink AnyNet GSM Cellular Backup
6 GE 5812RND Round Glassbreak Sensors
1 interior siren
1 7amp battery
1 phone module
1 transformer

 

[l0cke]

Thanks for telling me, I will be breaking into your house today then instead of tomorrow :thumbsup:

 

[alkemyst]

you come in today you may leave pretty holy. I'd recommend knocking first today and at least tomorrow.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Is this for your house or a business? If it's your house, it's either absolutely gargantuan or are you just going way over the top with the amount of sensors?

Window sensors especially are relatively pointless and unless you're putting them on all of your windows (including those that you can't easily reach from the ground) 20 is way too many. They only trip if you actually open the window of the frame that they're attached to. If someone just breaks a window and crawls through they won't go off. That brings me to the glass breakage sensor which will trip when someone does that. On top of that, a decent number of well positioned motion sensors should be able to monitor to see if anyone went through a window.

 

[alkemyst]

house and separate workshop have 20 windows and 4 doors at ground level. The people that broke into my home wanted to pry the window first then had to go through it. If it were me. I'd just have drilled a hole at the latches and pushed them open if I saw no contact. There are ways to bypass glass breaks too....

Motions are great but I have pets so I have to limit them to rooms the pets can't get up in front of them in.

In the end the reality was I could do it half assed for $1200 or full on for $1600.

I have just experienced a $20k loss, this is less than 10% of that. Unfortunately I was hoping it would have been effective prior to my burgulary.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Is this for your house or a business? If it's your house, it's either absolutely gargantuan or are you just going way over the top with the amount of sensors?

Window sensors especially are relatively pointless and unless you're putting them on all of your windows (including those that you can't easily reach from the ground) 20 is way too many. They only trip if you actually open the window of the frame that they're attached to. If someone just breaks a window and crawls through they won't go off. That brings me to the glass breakage sensor which will trip when someone does that. On top of that, a decent number of well positioned motion sensors should be able to monitor to see if anyone went through a window.

you must have missed the other threads.

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Is this for your house or a business? If it's your house, it's either absolutely gargantuan or are you just going way over the top with the amount of sensors?

Window sensors especially are relatively pointless and unless you're putting them on all of your windows (including those that you can't easily reach from the ground) 20 is way too many. They only trip if you actually open the window of the frame that they're attached to. If someone just breaks a window and crawls through they won't go off. That brings me to the glass breakage sensor which will trip when someone does that. On top of that, a decent number of well positioned motion sensors should be able to monitor to see if anyone went through a window.

you must have missed the other threads.

Or he was planning on going back and doesn't want all the extra crap slowing his little shopping spree.

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
house and separate workshop have 20 windows and 4 doors at ground level. The people that broke into my home wanted to pry the window first then had to go through it. If it were me. I'd just have drilled a hole at the latches and pushed them open if I saw no contact. There are ways to bypass glass breaks too....

Motions are great but I have pets so I have to limit them to rooms the pets can't get up in front of them in.

In the end the reality was I could do it half assed for $1200 or full on for $1600.

I have just experienced a $20k loss, this is less than 10% of that. Unfortunately I was hoping it would have been effective prior to my burgulary.

The infrared motion detectors ignore pets.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Reading up now and installing tomorrow:

DSC 1864 with 1 5108 (16 hardwire zones)
5132 32 zone wireless
2 Bosch 835i motions
1 DSC 4904p wireless motion
1 DSC SD30W 30 Watt Indoor / Outdoor Siren
20 DSC EV DW4975 Vanishing Wireless Door Window Contacts
3 DSC EV DW4917 Wireless Recessed Door Window Contacts
1 DSC WS4945 Wireless Door / Window Transmitter
2 System Sensor 4WTA-B Smoke / Heat Detectors
1 DSC PK5501 Sixty-four Zone Fixed LCD Keypad
1 DSC PK5500 Sixty-four Alphanumeric Zone Fixed LCD Keypad
1 Uplink AnyNet GSM Cellular Backup
6 GE 5812RND Round Glassbreak Sensors
1 interior siren
1 7amp battery
1 phone module
1 transformer

I don't think that Megan Fox would agree alkemyst!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: tasmanian

Originally posted by: alkemyst
house and separate workshop have 20 windows and 4 doors at ground level. The people that broke into my home wanted to pry the window first then had to go through it. If it were me. I'd just have drilled a hole at the latches and pushed them open if I saw no contact. There are ways to bypass glass breaks too....

Motions are great but I have pets so I have to limit them to rooms the pets can't get up in front of them in.

In the end the reality was I could do it half assed for $1200 or full on for $1600.

I have just experienced a $20k loss, this is less than 10% of that. Unfortunately I was hoping it would have been effective prior to my burgulary.

The infrared motion detectors ignore pets.

you will find if they can jump up to the sensor location they will go off.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: compman25

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Is this for your house or a business? If it's your house, it's either absolutely gargantuan or are you just going way over the top with the amount of sensors?

Window sensors especially are relatively pointless and unless you're putting them on all of your windows (including those that you can't easily reach from the ground) 20 is way too many. They only trip if you actually open the window of the frame that they're attached to. If someone just breaks a window and crawls through they won't go off. That brings me to the glass breakage sensor which will trip when someone does that. On top of that, a decent number of well positioned motion sensors should be able to monitor to see if anyone went through a window.

you must have missed the other threads.

Or he was planning on going back and doesn't want all the extra crap slowing his little shopping spree.

that's some funny shit, speaking of which want the invite for your mother's private videos with me. If you come rob me too you will need to look in my trash cans for them.

 

[caspur]

That is a good basic setup, but keep in mind that it is still a passive system, it does little to stop the actual burglary. $1600 is not much to work with when it comes to security, and generally limits you to alarms. Many times you can get these installs done for free if you sign a contract for monitoring.

I went the other (albeit much more expensive route)....I fortified the house.

-Every window on the ground level has security bars. I have wireless sensors on them also.
-Sliding door has a cage installed on the outside (think burglar bars with a door).
-Garage door is insulated and steel plated (no windows).
-Front and rear are steel security doors w/deadbolts.
-I also have an extensive networked CCTV system which can send alerts when zones are breached. It also allows web access monitoring from any computer or cell phone.
-My workshop is built inside the garage itself and is fortified with its own security door at the rear of the house.

The only issue I can see with exterior mods is that it can be out of place in certain neighborhoods and lead potential burglars to wonder what is inside that merits that level of protection. So the real key is to have an elegant, unobtrusive install. For example, in suburban neighborhoods (where security bars might be out of place) you can install European roller shutters...which also double as storm shutters for hurricane-prone areas.

 

[boomerang]

To answer your question (which is rare around here lately), I have. But never any wireless.

I've done an 1832 system that was all hardwired. DSC manuals are a mess IMO. Usually, I can skim through manuals and read more closely the areas where I need clarification but not with their manuals. I finally read everything provided with it word for painstaking word. Several times. The information on a particular phase of the install is not all grouped in one area. It's spread out all over.

The mechanics of the install are pretty straight up. It's the programming that's the killer. I'll offer whatever advice I can when needed. Without having done the wireless, I don't know how much help I'll be.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I've been thinking about installing an alarm system, but I don't know much about them. I don't currently have a home phone and I don't really want to run wires to various sensors around my house. Can you get an alarm without a phone? How reliable are wireless systems and how frequently do you have to replace batteries? How expensive are the batteries?

 

[alkemyst]

my workshop is fortified...they would not have gotten into it if they didn't find a key in the main house. I will be doing cameras.

DSC is actually more user friendly than many companies.

Josh, you can get any system without a phone line...it's not monitorable at that point, but would make noise.

Wireless is very reliable today and has life's of 5-6 years usually. Batteries depend on brand and type, usually the sensors are $30....batteries are 1/3-1/2 that cost.

 

[alkemyst]

Saturday will be finish up...not as bad as I though as I could travel down the center of the attic and pull about 90% of the wiring in one trip.

 

[skyking]

I did an 1832 and a dialer for a business office, we used 9 motion sensors for the whole place. I got it from an online store that supported the product. I started to program it and it was quite laborious, a real PITA if you miskeyed something in a long string.
I call up customer service and hold for a while. this guru answers and asks which zone to delay, etc. He then reads off a machine gun chatter of keys to enter, bam bam bam. In about 4 minutes it is programmed.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: skyking
I did an 1832 and a dialerfor a business office, we used 9 motion sensors for the whole place. I got it from an online store that supported the product. I started to program it and it was quite laborious, a real PITA if you miskeyed something in a long string.
I call up customer service and hold for a while. this guru answers and asks which zone to delay, etc. He then reads off a machine gun chatter of keys to enter, bam bam bam. In about 4 minutes it is programmed.

laptop and PClink FTMFW

 

[Modelworks]

I like camera based alarms, work and impossible to beat. You can even build one with a cheap pc and webcams. Plus you get to see the SOB

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I like camera based alarms, work and impossible to beat. You can even build one with a cheap pc and webcams. Plus you get to see the SOB

which are cheap, impossible to beat and get a clear shot of the person?

 

[krylon]

Just move out of the ghetto

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: krylon
Just move out of the ghetto

keep your ghetto friends out of my neighborhood.

kthxbye.