Anyone seen AMDZone's website? Apple and AMD?

[OS]

Being an AMD supporter, shareholder and user though, I'm not sure I want to be on the same side of the fence as Mac users.

*disclaimer-likes intel stuff too*

 

[PlatinumGold]

this rumor has been out for at least a year. i remember hearing rumblings about this for a long time now. it would be a good move by apple. it isn't windows that causes the instabilities of the x86 platform but the backward compatibility to DOS and to the old Hardware. If mac comes in uses an x86 processor and eliminates the backward compatibilities, there is no reason to suspect that the platform would be any less than ROCK solid.

wow that would make for interesting performance comparisons tho. I bet gates is gonna hate this.

 

[MadRat]

Lets face it, AMD cannot compete with the strengths of Power4 and vice versa. If Apple targets their OS X for both designs then you will still have power users going to one platform or the other in order to do whatever they need done. SSE2 will not supercede Altivec and Power4 raw MHz will never match x86 raw MHz, but then again they are two different platforms for two different markets.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
this rumor has been out for at least a year. i remember hearing rumblings about this for a long time now. it would be a good move by apple.

What are you reading? Basically every reputable site I've seen considers the Apple on AMD grumblings a joke, at least at this juncture. As Cadaver says, it's just about a lock that the next chip will be the IBM PPC970, unless Motorola can pull a rabbit out of its a.. err... I mean... hat and give them a G5 (ain't gonna happen).

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Eug
What are you reading? Basically every reputable site I've seen considers the Apple on AMD grumblings a joke, at least at this juncture. As Cadaver says, it's just about a lock that the next chip will be the IBM PPC970, unless Motorola can pull a rabbit out of its a.. err... I mean... hat and give them a G5 (ain't gonna happen).

Obviously, he's been reading the same things I have. I've heard about it for some time. I think that Apple's a fool for not going with Hammer. Apples can no longer compete with the PC for speed, no matter how much better their OS works. I know a lot of graphics people that are switching to PCs because of that exact problem. Apple better hope that those commercials work (but they won't because they suck) and somehow pull them from the pits of mediocrity. I know that there are people that will never leave their Macs, and that's fine and dandy, but don't kid yourself; people just want what they can understand. I don't know a single person over the age of 30 that could - could, not would - switch to a Mac. They just don't understand it. They, like myself, have been born and bred to understand how to work with a PC. I consider myself to be very tech-savvy, but I couldn't run a Mac if I had to.

I once scanned something at a Mac and wanted to put it on a Zip disk. I made a bunch of .tiff files (not small by any means) and filled up the disk. I then realized that I was scanning them wrong. So, I tried to delete them like on a PC (you know, hitting the freaking delete key!), but that didn't work. So I finally remembered how important the trash can was, so I tried that. I took all of the files that I didn't want and put them in there. Then I tried to put differenct scans on that disk. Nope, disk was full. I tried to right click on the disk to make it do something, but - yeah, you see this one coming - I didn't have a right button. I'm no tech moron, but for the life of me I could not get rid of those damned files. So I gave up; not just on that task, but on Macs in general.

Until Macs are as easy (yeah, I said easy) as Windows to use, I'll stick with my PC and love it. It's that simple.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Eug
What are you reading? Basically every reputable site I've seen considers the Apple on AMD grumblings a joke, at least at this juncture. As Cadaver says, it's just about a lock that the next chip will be the IBM PPC970, unless Motorola can pull a rabbit out of its a.. err... I mean... hat and give them a G5 (ain't gonna happen).

Obviously, he's been reading the same things I have. I've heard about it for some time. I think that Apple's a fool for not going with Hammer. Apples can no longer compete with the PC for speed, no matter how much better their OS works. I know a lot of graphics people that are switching to PCs because of that exact problem. Apple better hope that those commercials work (but they won't because they suck) and somehow pull them from the pits of mediocrity. I know that there are people that will never leave their Macs, and that's fine and dandy, but don't kid yourself; people just want what they can understand. I don't know a single person over the age of 30 that could - could, not would - switch to a Mac. They just don't understand it. They, like myself, have been born and bred to understand how to work with a PC. I consider myself to be very tech-savvy, but I couldn't run a Mac if I had to.

I once scanned something at a Mac and wanted to put it on a Zip disk. I made a bunch of .tiff files (not small by any means) and filled up the disk. I then realized that I was scanning them wrong. So, I tried to delete them like on a PC (you know, hitting the freaking delete key!), but that didn't work. So I finally remembered how important the trash can was, so I tried that. I took all of the files that I didn't want and put them in there. Then I tried to put differenct scans on that disk. Nope, disk was full. I tried to right click on the disk to make it do something, but - yeah, you see this one coming - I didn't have a right button. I'm no tech moron, but for the life of me I could not get rid of those damned files. So I gave up; not just on that task, but on Macs in general.

Until Macs are as easy (yeah, I said easy) as Windows to use, I'll stick with my PC and love it. It's that simple.

LOL.

1) Macs can use standard mice, and yes, they do have right-clickable contextual menus. If you only have a single button, then you can press a button on the keyboard and click the mouse button at the same time.

2) If you can't figure out how to delete a file, then that's your problem. The trash can is there for a purpose after all, even in Windows. The least you could have done is simply asked someone. The step you missed is emptying the trash can.

3) The switch ads (as stupid as some of them are) have generated the most Mac media attention since the Big Brother ads in 1984. That's no small feat. Whether that means a real impact on switching is another story, but the local stores at least saying that for them this year has been the highest they've noted in a long time for switchers. No hard numbers though.

4) Switching to X86 is no small feat. Essentially it would break just about everything that works great right now. The time to have considered the switch was when Apple went from OS 9 to OS X, but that time has long since passed.

5) Yes the rumours have been out for a while, but like I said before, the reputable sites consider them a joke. Don't believe everything you read on the net.

Ironically, I am NOT a switcher. I happen to use both Macs and PCs. Switch-hitter maybe. They complement each other quite nicely. As for ease of use, overall OS X is far easier to use than XP, but there are some things X can't do that XP can. Similarly, there are some things that XP can't do that X can. Thus, I use both.

If you would take the time to learn (ie. a day) then you might actually see why others would prefer a different method. There's no point in Apple duplicating XP "ease of use". Not only would it duplicate the good features, it would duplicate all the weird time-wasting idiosyncracies of XP as well. OS X has the benefit of being designed from the ground up with ergonomics in mind. No other in-use real OS in existence can say the same, including XP.