Anyone see today's Oprah?

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: CPA
OMG, could you imagine how the Left and media would react if Bush sent in an assasination attempt on Kim?

Just hire Mossad, im sure we could work out a deal.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: mc00
I always wonder how a country like China makes up most human being in this world are able to get pin down by a government... I mean, if the people China would rebel against the leaders, most likely they probably would win. But of course the leaders would use nukes/etc.. against there own people.. But how can government sustain it self without the people? I guess fear of dying is more powerful than being free or they like being told when to crap or when to go to sleep... this may apply NK or maybe not.

For the most part I think it's because to them(the People) things seem better than they were. In many ways that is true, in other ways things haven't changed much.

you almost answered that question corrctly.....
you should have added albit...
Who says our way of life is th correct way of life?
Just playing devils advocate.....

 

[wiin]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
We all know NK is a closed society with a ruthless dictator. I guess I never comprehended how bad it is till I saw this piece.

She entered with an eye surgeon posing as his assistant. She was the only American in the group, and the border guards informed her she currently the ONLY American in NK (whoa). She was never ever let out of site by her "chaperones". Not one minute. Aside from visiting the hospital/patients, they werent allowed to leave the hotel, with one exception. They were allowed to visit the home of someone who was scheduled to receive cataract surgery (thus the reason for the visit), and initially they were told no. They finally made a case they need to see how a blind person's house is set up or some such thing. This person receiving surgery has been blind for 10 years. Aside from very sparse furnishings, the ONLY pictures on the walls (EVERY wall BTW) are of "The Great Leader" (Kim Jung Ill). There was a TV, however there are only TWO television stations in NK and both are controlled by the government. There are three radio stations, again, controlled by the governemnt. They play no western music.

Lisa was able to film a few minutes of driving around, and there was really no traffic or people walking around. The only pictures or ads you see are of "The Great Leader". That's it. Nothing else. An assistant was taking pictures (each one of which had to be approved by an escort), and he wanted to get a picture of one of the endless statues of Kim. He layed down on the ground to get the whole statue in the pic, and was IMMEDIATELY accosted by the chaperones yelling YOU DO NOT LIE DOWN IN THE PRESENSE OF OUR GREAT LEADER! (wow)

It is rumored that Kim himself has the only computer in the country, and of course there is no internet. None anywhere. In fact, the general population doesnt even know what a computer or the internet actually IS.

When the surgeries for cateracts were done in the hospital, and when people removed their bandages, the FIRST thing they did is kneel down in front of the nearest Kim picture, raise their hands to it, and thank him. Not the surgeons, but Kim. Wow.

It was very very eye opening. I dont think we have a clue how oppressing that country actually is. It's simply amazing how a government can control people that way. It is widely known in NK that they are "still at war with the USA"...the Korean war never ended.

China looks like paradise in comparison.

Which brings me to a difficult question. How do you liberate a country like that? How do you open the minds of a population of millions of people who know nothing different?

I believe Oprah re-runs at night, so you might want to take a look. It will definately open your eyes.

You must have a lot of time to be watching opra.

 

[ProfJohn]

Lisa Ling was on O'Reilly Thursday or Friday with same info. Very interesting stuff.

A lot of people smarter than anyone here, if such thing was possible, believe that China props up N Korea in order to keep it as a buffer between them and South Korea.

Basically the people of China who might want to escape the oppression they get at home might be tempted to escape to freedom if they could. But who in their right mind would leave China for N Korea?

If North Korea folded and the South took over China would have to build its own Berlin wall really fast to keep its people in.

For all the economic progress China is making it still a very oppressive "lock the Christians up" type of country.