Anyone Read Song of Fire and Ice?

AntiFreze

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"Variety reported on January 17, 2007 that the rights for A Song of Ice and Fire have been sold to HBO with the intent of turning the novels into a television series.[7] Written and executive produced by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, the series is expected to cover one novel's worth of material per season. Martin plans to co-executive produce the series and is expected to write one episode per season. The series will be filmed in Europe or New Zealand.

Martin reported in August 2007 that the first draft of the script is complete[8] and stated in November that the script was approved and budgeting has begun. It should be noted, however, that the series has still not been officially greenlit, and the 2007 Writers Guild of America strike could have delayed the process.[9]"

-wikipedia


I'm on the second book, and its awesome. I cant wait to see HBO adaptation of it.
 

rivan

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The series isn't finished. It was only on the fourth(?) book that I found out the guy's taking his damned time writing the rest.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
hehe, I'm fine with that though. I only just started the 2nd.

Whoa, slow down. He's taking 5 years between novels. He should rap it up before 2020 hopefully, but he looks a lot less healthy than Robert Jordan did.

Steven Erikson is my new best friend seeing as how he writes about 850 pages every 9 months.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Despite finding the first three novels among the best ever written I have not even read the 4th one yet. The way Martin split things up was ludicrous and his pace is even worse. It's been EIGHT FREAKING YEARS since A Storm of Swords and in that time he's released half a book. Eight years without any new material about his best character, Tyrion. I've given up on the series and won't read another word until it's done because I don't think it ever will be.
 

jjones

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So who plays Tyrion? When I read the books, every line of Tyrion's dialogue I couldn't help but read in Danny DeVito's voice.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: jjones
So who plays Tyrion? When I read the books, every line of Tyrion's dialogue I couldn't help but read in Danny DeVito's voice.

No casting yet that I'm aware of, but Brian Dennehy would be great for Robert Baratheon, the once proud and glorious king, now a chubby hedonist. I won't say anything further due to spoilage.

There's a lot of dangers in the translation. Cersei and Jaimie especially will be difficult for people to portray the gray line they walk, neither good nor evil, but ruthlessly practical/ambitious. Luckily HBO has a knack for finding great people for its series.

Tyrion will probably be played by a little person, no? Littler than deVito, plus he's like 60 and Tyrion is what, 30? Maybe Ryan Seacrest hehe
 

Maleficus

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He is gonna die before he finishes his next book, much less the series.

that being said I hope HBO does it right, it's going to take a hell of a lot of money, like Rome.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
w a chubby hedonist. I won't say anything further due to spoilage.

There's a lot of dangers in the translation. Cersei and Jaimie especially will be difficult for people to portray the gray line they walk, neither good nor evil, but ruthlessly practical/ambitious. Luckily HBO has a knack for finding great people for its series.

Jaime has some gray area, but Cersei is evil through and through. The TV series goes in the "I'll believe it when I see it" file. It would be VERY expensive to film and there isn't a whole lot of buzz about the books these days.

 

jonks

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: sirjonk
w a chubby hedonist. I won't say anything further due to spoilage.

There's a lot of dangers in the translation. Cersei and Jaimie especially will be difficult for people to portray the gray line they walk, neither good nor evil, but ruthlessly practical/ambitious. Luckily HBO has a knack for finding great people for its series.

Jaime has some gray area, but Cersei is evil through and through. The TV series goes in the "I'll believe it when I see it" file. It would be VERY expensive to film and there isn't a whole lot of buzz about the books these days.

The last one premiered at #1 on NYT best seller list, so maybe for some extra buzz they can time the production release to coincide with the publishing of his next in the series. So it should premiere in 2012 or so.
 

JujuFish

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Speaking of fantasy series becoming TV shows, Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule is being made into a series. It'll be directed by Sam Raimi and presumably shown on ABC.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Speaking of fantasy series becoming TV shows, Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule is being made into a series. It'll be directed by Sam Raimi and presumably shown on ABC.

This would be a good series!

Martin is really pissing me off, and even though I have the fourth I'm not reading it until the fifth comes out. Although he'll almost certainly die first. I saw him at a signing (for the THIRD book) in 2000 and he looked like he could keel over any time.
 

BigJ

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Hopefully I forget I ever read the series because at this rate, I don't even know if Martin will live long enough to get past the 5th book.

Steven Erikson absolutely friggin' rocks. He's been my number 1 since I started reading his series about a year back.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Speaking of fantasy series becoming TV shows, Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule is being made into a series. It'll be directed by Sam Raimi and presumably shown on ABC.

As long as they stop after book 1, great. Oh, and keep TG away from the script before he turns it into Ayn Rand's First Rule.
 

MrPickins

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I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.
 

Kelvrick

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So they finally picked it up huh. Its been news on http://asoiaf.westeros.org/ for a while now.

I'm excited, but am worried they'll have to cut out/compress too much. There is just too much material and well, I have a feeling production costs will be higher then Rome.

EDIT: Just read the date of your source, wiki from 2007? Jeez, with the writer's strike and rome's set burning down, its been a really big IF every since. I thought you had some new news.
 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?
 

AntiFreze

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I'd love to see a band of brothers take on just the 1st book a Game of Thrones. That would do it justice I think.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Speaking of fantasy series becoming TV shows, Terry Goodkind's Wizard's First Rule is being made into a series. It'll be directed by Sam Raimi and presumably shown on ABC.

As long as they stop after book 1, great. Oh, and keep TG away from the script before he turns it into Ayn Rand's First Rule.

No kidding! That's why the book where whats-his-name carved a statue was easily the worst in the series. I don't really care for rabid anti-communist tirades in my scifi/fantasy.

He eased up a little after that, but the series had definitely gone downhill.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?

I'm current on the Wheel of Time series, so I'd say I can handle a slow book. This one was just tedious.

All IMO, of course.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?

I'm current on the Wheel of Time series, so I'd say I can handle a slow book. This one was just tedious.

All IMO, of course.

A Game of Thrones did start a bit slowly. The first several chapters set things up and introduced characters, but not much happened. So it's reasonable for a person to start the series, get bored and quit. That's too bad, the people with short attention spans are only hurting themselves. If you stick it out through the first 100-150 pages things get into high gear and never let up. More happens in one chapter of ASOFAI than in 3 complete novels of the WOT series.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?

I'm current on the Wheel of Time series, so I'd say I can handle a slow book. This one was just tedious.

All IMO, of course.

To help others who aren't up to date on wheel of time. Men don't trust women, women don't trust men. Aiel (sp?) are like chuck norris + mr t + bruce lee + pitcher of kool-aid all in one.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?

I'm current on the Wheel of Time series, so I'd say I can handle a slow book. This one was just tedious.

All IMO, of course.

A Game of Thrones did start a bit slowly. The first several chapters set things up and introduced characters, but not much happened. So it's reasonable for a person to start the series, get bored and quit. That's too bad, the people with short attention spans are only hurting themselves. If you stick it out through the first 100-150 pages things get into high gear and never let up. More happens in one chapter of ASOFAI than in 3 complete novels of the WOT series.

I suppose I should give it another shot. I've still got the paperback.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: MrPickins
I started "A Game of Thrones" a long time ago on advice from a friend.

It was slow enough to bore me to tears.

what books do you consider not slow?

I'm current on the Wheel of Time series, so I'd say I can handle a slow book. This one was just tedious.

All IMO, of course.

A Game of Thrones did start a bit slowly. The first several chapters set things up and introduced characters, but not much happened. So it's reasonable for a person to start the series, get bored and quit. That's too bad, the people with short attention spans are only hurting themselves. If you stick it out through the first 100-150 pages things get into high gear and never let up. More happens in one chapter of ASOFAI than in 3 complete novels of the WOT series.

I suppose I should give it another shot. I've still got the paperback.

Without a spoiler just keep reading until you get to the part with Bran spying on Jaime and Cersei in the tower. That's when you know you're not reading an ordinary fantasy series.