Anyone planing to go to the NYC Climate march?

[Thebobo]

Just as i figured, same losers.

take it to P&N loser

 

[Thebobo]

eco-KOOKS on parade.

Thank you for your thoughtful and considerate contribution.

 

[KeithTalent]

My plan has been to go through my entire life never participating in a march of any kind. So far so good.

KT

 

[Thebobo]

I though the hippie movement died 40 years ago.

Thank you for mentioning the word hippie.

 

[BoberFett]

I don't know about the Climate March, but this one was pretty successful.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/71-billion-demonstrate-in-favor-of-global-warming,36984

 

[Thebobo]

I don't know about the Climate March, but this one was pretty successful.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/71-billion-demonstrate-in-favor-of-global-warming,36984

I was there!

 

[brianmanahan]

what is the carbon footprint of this thread? :hmm:

 

[Hugo Drax]

How are we to do that if not by making our opinions known, and voting?

Your votes and opinion don't count. Whoever you vote for, will report to te same lobbiests and big money groups.

Cash is king.

 

[Ruptga]

Your votes and opinion don't count. Whoever you vote for, will report to te same lobbiests and big money groups.

Cash is king.

Citation needed.



Cash is king, but as a proxy to power. Just as nobody in the world controls all the money, nobody in the world has all the power. Some have a hell of a lot more than others, but the idea that any one group - or even a coalition - controls the entire US's politics is absurd. Now if you want to talk trash about oligarchs, I'll get on board with that.

Also, the Onion wins again.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I don't really know what trillion dollar infrastructure you think whatever else would leave worthless, but I don't think those are anywhere close to accomplishing what you suggest (solve the whole problem), and they're still in their relative infancy as far as development. It's an area that holds promise but is a long way from being a viable alternative to fossil fuels.

By trillion dollar infrastructure I mean gas stations, refineries, tankers, terminals, pipelines, etc. worldwide. There's an enormous global infrastructure devoted to distributing petroleum worldwide, all of which would be rendered obsolete if alternative methods of energy delivery were implemented. Then that entire network would have to be recreated in order to service the new energy paradigm.

I don't disagree for a second that the methods I mentioned above are in their infancy, but I think it's a practical and most elegant solution in terms of resources.

 

[JulesMaximus]

well lets try to appeal to the normal cynical AT poster level...

The climate change girls will be there!?

I bet none of them shave their armpit hair... and the one in the purple top probably has pointy elbows.

 

[Iron Woode]

LOL

OWS is still trying to be relevant by joining the eco-idiots.

These protests accomplish nothing but an orgy of ego-stroking. They are about as useful as that Earth Day nonsense.

Also, why is it that the people who know the least about the environment are the first to protest shit they know nothing about?

 

[darkswordsman17]

By trillion dollar infrastructure I mean gas stations, refineries, tankers, terminals, pipelines, etc. worldwide. There's an enormous global infrastructure devoted to distributing petroleum worldwide, all of which would be rendered obsolete if alternative methods of energy delivery were implemented. Then that entire network would have to be recreated in order to service the new energy paradigm.

I don't disagree for a second that the methods I mentioned above are in their infancy, but I think it's a practical and most elegant solution in terms of resources.

I assumed you meant that but I don't know why you think that infrastructure couldn't be utilized for other reasons. Not only that but a lot of that infrastructure needs overhauled and it's not like it's some insurmountable thing. Oh and our infrastructure in general needs upgrades, which is why it makes sense for us to start integrating newer technology and more forms of energy into it.

And no one is rationally talking about junking petroleum infrastructure in a short time frame. However, considering the oil reserve situation though, it doesn't make sense to keep supporting that infrastructure either, and as such we need to be considering alternatives. Not just because of pollution but because we literally are running out of fossil fuels.

That's the problem, it isn't anywhere close to practical (it would take probably trillions of dollars to get it to where it would replace oil to be able to still make use of all the infrastructure you're talking about) yet. We don't know if it ever would be. From what I've gathered the likely best method for doing that would be making giant algae (might not be algae, might be some other plant that is capable of growing large quantities in water) farms in the ocean that are then processed in facilities where bacteria feed off of it and basically convert it to oil like substance. I think we're closer to hydrogen being feasible than we are to that, and we're nowhere close to hydrogen being feasible. I do think it's a worthwhile endeavor, and hope we do see some good advancements to make it a more feasible option. I think it's smart for us to research and adopt a variety of means for energy production.

LOL

OWS is still trying to be relevant by joining the eco-idiots.

These protests accomplish nothing but an orgy of ego-stroking. They are about as useful as that Earth Day nonsense.

Also, why is it that the people who know the least about the environment are the first to protest shit they know nothing about?

Odd that people keep projecting this, since I think the first people to "protest" have often been the most knowledgeable (that being climate and environmental scientists that have been doing these things for a long time).

Now maybe you and some of the others criticizing this are doing so due to some specific issues, but please stop acting like everyone that is mindful of climate and the environment in general are ignorant morons that don't know anything that they're talking about (especially if you're going to base your own opinions on your own ignorance).

 

[OutHouse]

550 buses? Tons of flyers... lol

 

[Bateluer]

550 buses? Tons of flyers... lol

They might run on natural gas, and printed on recycled paper.

 

[Dari]

LOL

OWS is still trying to be relevant by joining the eco-idiots.

These protests accomplish nothing but an orgy of ego-stroking. They are about as useful as that Earth Day nonsense.

Also, why is it that the people who know the least about the environment are the first to protest shit they know nothing about?

Riiiiiiiiiight. Might want to see how corporate policies are changing on a daily basis vis-a-vis climate change. How investment policies are changing. How purchasing is changing. How cities like NYC have their buses running on natural gas. How mass transportation and environmentally friendly means of transportation (like biking) are catching on. And how China is trying to clean up its act by ramping up environmentally-friendly policies like solar panel production and elevators that stop when no one is near. These policies not only conserve energy but they also save money.

Smart-asses and yokels blowing diesel fuel in each other faces in hick towns may make fun of people that actually care about the environment but real change is happening and it's making for a better world. The cynics and morons that feel so strongly against those wanting a better world should move to a place like West Virginia where it's coal country and hatred of these policies is legend. Also, try drinking the water there. I hear it's good for you...

 

[Iron Woode]

Riiiiiiiiiight. Might want to see how corporate policies are changing on a daily basis vis-a-vis climate change. How investment policies are changing. How purchasing is changing. How cities like NYC have their buses running on natural gas. How mass transportation and environmentally friendly means of transportation (like biking) are catching on. And how China is trying to clean up its act by ramping up environmentally-friendly policies like solar panel production and elevators that stop when no one is near. These policies not only conserve energy but they also save money.

Smart-asses and yokels blowing diesel fuel in each other faces in hick towns may make fun of people that actually care about the environment but real change is happening and it's making for a better world. The cynics and morons that feel so strongly against those wanting a better world should move to a place like West Virginia where it's coal country and hatred of these policies is legend. Also, try drinking the water there. I hear it's good for you...

LOL

kool-aid much?

maybe you should start one of those oh-so effective internet petitions?

:whiste:

 

[Linflas]

Riiiiiiiiiight. Might want to see how corporate policies are changing on a daily basis vis-a-vis climate change. How investment policies are changing. How purchasing is changing. How cities like NYC have their buses running on natural gas. How mass transportation and environmentally friendly means of transportation (like biking) are catching on. And how China is trying to clean up its act by ramping up environmentally-friendly policies like solar panel production and elevators that stop when no one is near. These policies not only conserve energy but they also save money.

Smart-asses and yokels blowing diesel fuel in each other faces in hick towns may make fun of people that actually care about the environment but real change is happening and it's making for a better world. The cynics and morons that feel so strongly against those wanting a better world should move to a place like West Virginia where it's coal country and hatred of these policies is legend. Also, try drinking the water there. I hear it's good for you...

If you want I can take you to places in West Virginia that you can drink water coming out of the side of a mountain. It is clean, very cold, and crystal clear.

 

[glenn1]

Riiiiiiiiiight. Might want to see how corporate policies are changing on a daily basis vis-a-vis climate change. How investment policies are changing. How purchasing is changing. How cities like NYC have their buses running on natural gas. How mass transportation and environmentally friendly means of transportation (like biking) are catching on. And how China is trying to clean up its act by ramping up environmentally-friendly policies like solar panel production and elevators that stop when no one is near. These policies not only conserve energy but they also save money.

Smart-asses and yokels blowing diesel fuel in each other faces in hick towns may make fun of people that actually care about the environment but real change is happening and it's making for a better world. The cynics and morons that feel so strongly against those wanting a better world should move to a place like West Virginia where it's coal country and hatred of these policies is legend. Also, try drinking the water there. I hear it's good for you...

Sure, the people who make corporate and investment policies are increasingly seeing you as a unique consumer segment. The real change is the amount of targeted marketing you'll begin receiving from them. They'll probably also ask you to write your elected official to support more corporate subsidies for them, read: uneconomic solar panels and high speed rail from Fresno to Bakersfield.

 

[Dari]

LOL

kool-aid much?

maybe you should start one of those oh-so effective internet petitions?

:whiste:

Don't need to. My colleagues, neighbors, and friends all agree that we want to leave the world a better place than what we inherited. It's a mindset and an acceptance. Therefore, we welcome the price we have to pay in order to achieve that goal.

If you want I can take you to places in West Virginia that you can drink water coming out of the side of a mountain. It is clean, very cold, and crystal clear.

That's nice. Glad y'all still have those. However, with the mindset some have against environmental policies, especially in coal country, how long until that mountain is blown up to get more minerals?

Sure, the people who make corporate and investment policies are increasingly seeing you as a unique consumer segment. The real change is the amount of targeted marketing you'll begin receiving from them. They'll probably also ask you to write your elected official to support more corporate subsidies for them, read: uneconomic solar panels and high speed rail from Fresno to Bakersfield.

Again, NYC is probably more energy efficient than any other city in the country. With such a high population density, public transportation and utilities goes much farther. Less need for private vehicles and less overall distances to travel. Simply by being New Yorkers and living in the city, we are helping the environment. So, yeah, we get it. Understanding what man is doing to the environment and paying the relevant price is not something to fear. It's just common sense.

The juvenile responses to the OPs question is embarrassing to the respective authors.