Anyone own Mitsubishi Diamond Pro DP2070SB!!

[BigDog]

Time to replace my 21? Digital Trinitron I bought refurbished for $1000.00 Can. over 5 years ago which I love and is still totally AWESOME for gaming but showing it?s age as 2D has become quite fuzzy.

Have been looking at:

MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PRO 2070 22IN .24MM 2048X1536 FLAT

Anyone who has this monitor and would comment on how they like it I would very much appreciate it.

Won?t consider anything under 21?.
I would like to be able to run 1600 x 1200 at 100hz (not asking much!)
Not interested in LCD.

Any recommendations ?

 

[GrumpyMan]

I have the 2060u which is the prior model. You will absolutely love that monitor if they don't tear it up during shipping. It took me 2 times to get one that wasn't dropped during shipping (very large and heavy box). Perfect geometry, dark rich colors, excellent text depending on your video card of course. And the dot pitch is uniform so the text is as clear on the corners as it is in the middle. If I get another monitor it will definitely be the 2070 model. TH gave it a best of for 2002 (2060u model) for what that's worth. I have never read a bad review of that monitor.

 

[BigDog]

What resolution and refresh rate are you running?

 

[GrumpyMan]

1600 X 1200 @ 85 hz refresh rate.

 

[TourGuide]

Those monitors have their share of problems no matter what you have heard. I tried for the NEC version of that and after two monitors with flaws I could not live with (Geometry, color purity problems, and text fuzziness at higher resolutions) I said screw it and went for a Sony G520P. I am glad I did.

Whatever you do, look for an online retailer who has a good return policy or buy local.

 

[Metalloid]

How much you looking to spend? If price is no object, then the Sony G520 is supposed to be one of the best.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I have read that the NEC version has problems whereas the Mitsu version does not, even though they are the same company now. The Mitsu beat out the Sony in most reviews I've read. And the aperture grill lines aren't as pronounced as the Sonys either. I did a side by side comparison to the Sony G520 with my friends monitor and I liked mine much much better. Of course vision is a subjective subject.

 

[titanmiller]

Sony G520

 

[BigDog]

How much you looking to spend?

I have about $1,000.00 U.S. (tax in would be nice!)

My primary concern is picture and build quality. I want this monitor too last. I don't want to buy something that I'm going to have to replace as soon as the warranty expires! I'm willing to pay a little more but I must have a quality product

Thanks for everyone's reply!

 

[TourGuide]

Have you considered flat panel?

 

[BigDog]

Not interested in LCD

I honestly do not have any first hand experience with LCD. I want to run at 1600 x 1200 @ 100hz. At that resolution on an LCD I'd have to sell one of my kids! From my limited knowledge of LCD, no I am not interested.

Thanks though TourGuide!

 

[TourGuide]

OK then.

I still want to reiterate what I said about finding a retailer with a good return policy. I found several monitors with flaws bad enough that I needed to send them back. With CRT monitors as well as LCDs the idea of a flawless display is mostly that, an idea. So you have to decide what your priorities are and what you can live with. For me, I want excellent geometry, color purity, and text focus and clarity. Your priorities may differ.

I will be considering LCD on the next go round perhaps by then the technology will be up to my preferences.

 

[Tseng]

If the price is the only concern that prevents you from buying a LCD, take a look at Dell 2000FP.
It has 1600x1200 native resolution and costs USD$999 which should within your budget.

I switch from CRT to LCD 3 weeks ago and I'd never go back.
LCD with DVI-D input give excellent 2D quality.

 

[tenoc]

IMHO, the best deals are these CDN329 off-lease Dell P1110 flat monitors from dfsdirect

 

[BigDog]

IMHO, the best deals are these CDN329 off-lease Dell P1110 flat monitors from dfsdirect

Thanks for the link tenoc!
This is a very tempting offer on reconditioned monitors. The monitor I have now was a reconditioned monitor and I have been very pleased with it. It's a bit of a crap shoot though as if you have a problem after your 30 days your sol!
I imagine these monitors are somewhere around 5 years old! 1600 x 1200 @ 85hz is identified as the 'highest preset resolution'. I believe they run 1600 x @95hz but it's not actually documented in their specs anywhere I could find. Anyhow, this is very tempting. Too bad the warranty wasn't a little better.

I'll definitely keep this in mind though.

Thanks again tenoc!

 

[tenoc]

Negative, Dawg!

The 30 day thing is for re-sellers only!

You get a Six Month Exchange Warranty.

I got one a year ago in mint condition. Still working ichiban.

Oh, yeah. Shipping was 50 loons or less, afair.

 

[tenoc]

p.s.

The one I got was less than 2 years old. mfg 2000, week 22.

 

[kawboy68]

Just to muddy the waters a bit, I've seen some pretty fuzzy off-lease Dells. I had a 20" Trinitron that I sold off to get my current Viewsonic G810. Colours are much richer and the screen isn't fuzzy (and yes, I know how to adjust the grille on Trinitrons). I have heard that the phosphor can be a problem on Trinitrons.

There's a store around here that had some of the used 21" Trinitron Dells on display and this G810 just kills them for IQ (vidcard was supposedly a Ti4200 of some kind and I've seen this G810 on an MSI GF3 Ti200 and my current Viewsonic Ti4400. I've also looked at a Viewsonic over time compared to a Samsung and the 7yr old 17" Viewsonic keep its rich colour when my 3 yr old Samsung 750s went dull, and my friend's Viewsonic had probably more use/year than mine did.

I'd recommend not buying any monitor unless you can see it running, and preferably running on a good video card. If you can't see it running, make _sure_ they have a refund policy that includes buyer satisfaction for image quality. I got this G810 dirt cheap because the fellow selling it was running it on an elcheapo GF2 MX and the colours were bleeding a fair bit. I figured it was worth a chance and if it didn't clean up, I could resell it easily for what I paid for it. Guess what? It was his card...

 

[kawboy68]

Ooops, that should've been "current Visiontek Ti4400" in that last post.

 

[MrPabulum]

Sony G520 or Samsung 1200NF You can't go wrong with either model.

 

[Mem]

The model you`re thinking of buying is a good choice,however there`re quite a few good 22" CRT monitors available,the IIYAMA VM 513 or 514 are also good choices info on them can be found here .

 

[BigDog]

Selecting a 21? CRT monitor, whether for yourself, or as a recommendation to someone else is not an easy choice. The price of a ?quality? 21? monitor makes the importance of making an informed choice all the more critical. I had planned to purchase a new monitor myself last year, but could not decide on which model to buy.

Tom recommends the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2060u in his August 2002 article (http://www6.tomshardware.com/display/20020805/index.html). I have heard mixed reviews on this product which has been replace by the 2070SB. I noted that the Sony G520, came in a distant 4th in this review behind the Diamond Pro 2060u, the ViewSonic p225f and the NEC Fe1250+.

The NEC/Mitsubishi 2070SB, which replaces this model is recommended by ?Sharky Extreme?. I have read reviews (professional and consumer) of this model.

Here at Anand, Matthew Witheiler selects the Sony StylePro CPD-E540 in his ?High End Gaming? Guide.

Anand has made mention of the Iiyama line, which Tom also mentions as a good price/performance line of monitors.

The point I?m trying to make is that it is not a cut and dry choice and that all monitors have strong and weak points. Add to this the fact that with any monitor you purchase you can receive a less than perfect unit no doubt has an effect on the conflicting monitor reviews.

At this point I?ve heard good reviews on the Diamond Pro 2070SB-BK and it is currently at the top of my list.

Thanks for all your replies, I know this topic has been beat to death in the past but I?m sure that there are many trying to make the same decision as the prices of 21? CRT?s have dropped drastically. In the end it is the combination of professional and unbiased consumer reviews that allows us to make informed hardware purchases!

If anyone knows of any respected 21? reviews please post the links, as well as your personal opinions have been and are very much appreciated.

Thanks again to All who have replied thus far!

 

[Hikari]

I have the new 22" Iiyama VisionMaster Pro (MT-514??). It runs -GREAT- at 1600x1200@100hz and 32 bit color. I replaced my now dead Sony GDM-F500 with it, and the cost was $600something. Uses a diamondtron or trinitron screen, I forget which and is quite comparable to the old F500 of mine.

2 Video inputs as well, and integrated USB hub, some wimpy speakers (dont need them, but oh well), etc.

 

[T9D]

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[WaTaGuMp]

Take a look below at the refurbs here, I reccomend the HP 21" they have. Mine is a refurb HP 1100 at its still rocks and its 3 years old. I once had one of the Sony models and it wasnt as good as this one I have now even though its also a Trinitron, the Sony I had was blurry around the edges and didnt do very well in the screen geometry area so I returned it. My friend here has a top of the line Sony he paid 2k for it and its even blurry on the edges.




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