word of caution: Liteon became suddenly very cool about support, and there are rumors about discontinuing it due to reliability problems(sorry about earlier post, I stated reading some info on the web myself). I got mine for 137$ from allthingstech.com, they don't carry it anymore. Also first one crapped out after a week, stopped playing most of recorded DVD+R, so I had to RMA it, second seems to be fine for now. Cool player, but quality is chancy.