Anyone notice conservative top boogeymen are women?

HomerJS

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Warren


Just sayin'
 

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Warren


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Not as much the conservatives, as the cheeto. Because cheeto is not a conservative.
Cheeto is scared of strong women, hence his callouts of the above.

The repubs do rail on these 4 but nowhere near the amount that the lard ass does.
 

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You forgot Michelle Obama, Angela Merkel (for a long time), Christine Blasey Ford, Debra Ramirez as the latest flavors of the month.
 

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You forgot Michelle Obama, Angela Merkel (for a long time), Christine Blasey Ford, Debra Ramirez as the latest flavors of the month.
Ah yes, how could I have forgot Merkel.
 

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They like women as servants or mindless puppets.

Please See: Ivanka, Kellyanne, Melania, Sarah, Ann, and Tomi.
 

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How do conservative women reconcile the feelings of inferiority and traditionalist attitude a lot of the men have? Or do they generally buy into it?
 

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Conservative men are uneasy around strong, intelligent, competent women. They tend to feel emasculated so they lash out or spin wild biases in order to justify their own inadequacy.

They are scared shitless over women having agency over their own bodies. Women with the own ideas really send them over the edge.
 

pmv

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They buy into it, the Lord thy God commanded the man be the leader.

I suspect they see being white (and, in some cases, - but clearly not all - upper class) as a more important part of their identity than being women.

For the original question, isn't it also that in the era of Trump, more women feel motivated to attain boogieperson status? He's quite the motivational-speaker in that respect.
 

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Anyone notice conservative top boogeymen are women?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Warren


Just sayin'

Seems to be a dimwitted observation. Simply because Democrats put women forward, partisans will assail them.

Just as they did with men such as Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Barrack Obama, and anyone else that finds a spotlight. Republicans, having far fewer women in leadership and/or office, find fewer of their women in the spotlight to be targeted by Dems. But do not, for one second, think anyone was kind to Sarah Palin.

To which someone will no doubt reply "but she deserved it". Oh, really? So you can drop the pretense and just boil this topic down to: Republican bad, Democrat good. And for a few years I've generally agreed with that, but the topic does seem silly.
 

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Seems to be a dimwitted observation. Simply because Democrats put women forward, partisans will assail them.

Just as they did with men such as Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Barrack Obama, and anyone else that finds a spotlight. Republicans, having far fewer women in leadership and/or office, find fewer of their women in the spotlight to be targeted by Dems. But do not, for one second, think anyone was kind to Sarah Palin.

To which someone will no doubt reply "but she deserved it". Oh, really? So you can drop the pretense and just boil this topic down to: Republican bad, Democrat good. And for a few years I've generally agreed with that, but the topic does seem silly.

I do think it's sometimes due simply to the Democrats actually having women leaders, but it's also glib to imply that gender and skin color aren't factors.

Consider this: many of the attacks against Hillary Clinton have been explicitly gendered. Republican supporters have routinely portrayed Clinton as the bitch, the whore, the anti-male monster who must be destroyed. Some attacks are based purely on her policies, but there are a lot of Republicans who see her womanhood as a problem.

This isn't to say Palin was never the subject of sexist attacks, but most criticism of her has been chalked up to her genuine stupidity, not the fact that she's a woman. Gender equality doesn't give you immunity to withering criticism; it just means that you don't attack people based on their sex.
 

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How do conservative women reconcile the feelings of inferiority and traditionalist attitude a lot of the men have? Or do they generally buy into it?
Modern US Conservatism is essentially traditional white male Christian hierarchy, otherwise known as their "identity". White males who identify as conservatives, can essentially mime their beliefs, and can fit into that identity by default. As a white and male libtard, I could easily fit in by repeating 2-3 talking points.

People on the fringe of that identity group, such as women, non-whites, LGBTQ, non-Christians, etc., can be and sometimes are mistaken for libtards simply because they aren't the hierarchy, i.e. white males.

So, to make sure that they fit in with their chosen identity of a Modern US Conservative, they have to be even more vocal, and have to come out and support the existing hierarchy, so as not to be mistaken for a god damn libtard.

It's not that they buy into it more, as much as they have to vocally shout, repeatedly, to make sure their identity isn't mistaken by the identity group's hierarchy. Which is why conservative women will be as vocal or more vocal attacking libtard women. Or why gay conservatives will be as vocal or more vocal attacking gay "special rights". Ditto conservative minorities, etc., etc.

Note well: it's also why "tokenism" is so important for Modern US Conservatism. By snagging conservative women, gays, etc., they can have those tokens criticize the non-conservative sub-cultures by having someone who technically belongs to those sub-cultures make the attack without it being explicit bigotry.
 
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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Nothing scares a weak man more than a strong woman or an "uppity" black person.

And the right-wing demonization of the opposition is comic book level now. It's seriously bad.
 
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Hillary Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Warren


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Nothing to say. As more women earn leadership positions, they will be subject to partisan attacks, the same as Al Gore, John Kerry and Michael Dukakis before them.

I also can’t help but notice that during the Kavanaugh hearings, the media and Democrats focused almost exclusively and relentlessly on the votes of Senators Collins and Murkowski. The same can be said for attitudes towards Condi Rice. There were also some shameful commentary when Barbara Bush passed away.

I won’t classify Palin as a victim.
 

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Seems to be a dimwitted observation. Simply because Democrats put women forward, partisans will assail them.

Just as they did with men such as Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Barrack Obama, and anyone else that finds a spotlight. Republicans, having far fewer women in leadership and/or office, find fewer of their women in the spotlight to be targeted by Dems. But do not, for one second, think anyone was kind to Sarah Palin.

To which someone will no doubt reply "but she deserved it". Oh, really? So you can drop the pretense and just boil this topic down to: Republican bad, Democrat good. And for a few years I've generally agreed with that, but the topic does seem silly.
Maybe a more dimwitted observation Republicans don't put women forward.

Did you check out the 116th incoming Congress?
Did you check out the Senate Judiciary Committee?

Perhaps your powers of observation are misplaced.
 

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Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Givin all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times and he'll have good times
Doing things that you dont understand
But if you love him you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
Cause after all he's just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep givin all the love you can
Stand by your man
 

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And then, of course, there is the scientifically demonstrated fact, unknown to almost everybody, that men think they want an intelligent woman. say as a partner, but actually don't. This is doubtlessly the same fact I have told folk here for neigh on 20 years, that we all, and that means men, hate ourselves. The fear, of course, is that smart people will see through our lies and see us as who we feel we are rather than as we consciously imagine ourselves. You should be able to see why politicians might have a problem with people seeing through their act. It's manly men in particular that are emotional cowards. Better to be cold and dead rather than to feel one's true feelings of inadequacy and weakness.

Every intelligent self capable and intuitive woman is a Mueller investigation waiting to happen.